Why using the search bar to find emojis, does it display the male and female forms, but never show the gender neutral version even though such an emoji does exist?

Someasy@lemmy.world to No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world – 19 points –

May depend on what device you're using, can confirm Samsung does this

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My iPhone shows three options πŸ€·πŸ€·β€β™€οΈπŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

Are the colors meant for gender?

Yes, orange = neutral, purple = female, blue = male. They just did it like that

But the orange one looks exactly the same as the blue one.

These come from the fonts on your device - there isn’t some β€œofficial” image for each, just what code point is what

But how did they assign the various colors to genders? I mean, they don't even know the color of my dick...

It's stereotypes all the way down.

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Another reason to switch to iPhone I guess. I was compelled by their recent announcement that they're switching to recycled cobalt (which is more sustainable and doesn't use child labour) by 2025, which might make them the only major smartphone company to do so. Fairphone is another option as far as that goes.

All of their planned obsolescence and anti right to repair practices far outweigh any other sustainability changes they've made.

Could someone explain why the downvotes? Lol

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On android here, an du have never had that issue. πŸ€·πŸ€·β€β™€οΈπŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

Also on that note, I did have a suspicion that it was a gender neutral reason but had never been able to differentiate between the male and the gender neutral. I have actually been using that the whole time even though I am a he/him cis straight 🀷

I don't get the gender neutral either (using Gboard on an older Android). Which is a bit odd because as far as I can tell gender neutral is the base character, and the male and female versions are customisations that are applied as if they were accented characters.

I'd rather have them all as no-gender, no-race, generic little yellow peeps but eh..

But seriously, I think we should have never went down the rabbit hole of giving the yellow people skin colours, because then we had to give them genders, and then suddenly people are marginalised because they aren't included.

I still want ginger emoji variants now 🀣

Try install a different keyboard. I'm using Microsoft SwiftKey and it gives access to all variations of the emoji with a long press πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

Thanks, but I can get that too, it's just when you use the search bar to type in a term, like "shrug", " tipping hand", "kneeling", "massage", or "haircut", that it only displays the male and female forms (for me). I'm using Samsung Keyboard because it allows for some good clipboard features that others don't, unfortunately.

It's the same face. The only thing that changes is the hair length and color of shirt. Just use the one most like you or something.

Guys can have long hair and wear purple. Girls can have short hair and wear blue.

Just use the one most like you or something

Perhaps the gender neutral one is the one that looks most like them..?

Yeah that's why I use it lol I'm a dude with long hair and that's what it looked like to me.

Didn't even realize it was supposed to be gender neutral

To be honest it does, but also I just feel silly asserting my gender when I'm trying to simply convey a reaction. I'm not nonbinary but I try to make things non-gendered by default unless there's a reason to. Why does anyone care about my gender as it relates to a shrugging reaction? That's where I'm at.

I miss when emojis were emoticons with no gender, just a lil happy yellow circle.

Non-binary Samsung user here! I use gboard anyway but also implement the person shrugging emoji a lot on discord so it pops up in my recently used quite often lol

Shows all the options on iPhone, on all the keyboards I have installed.

https://programming.dev/pictrs/image/397f0fec-05be-4f02-adce-97f5e1f600ec.png

https://programming.dev/pictrs/image/fd32158b-86cc-44ee-8b1d-e4aadb8413e7.png

https://programming.dev/pictrs/image/7e3055e2-5b14-4702-9140-ab2606d5f31a.png

Which application? Device? OS?

Samsung keyboard on One UI (Samsung's version of Android), throughout all apps. Samsung Galaxy S22

There's your problem. Gender neutral is first in Gboard. 🀷

You could actually download Gboard from the play store if it isn't already bundled with your phone.

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I get each one on iOS.

With Gboard, you can even change the color.

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Gboard is missing a bunch of other emojis and is slow as fuck to add new ones though

SwiftKey is far better for emojis, Gboard is better for languages, otherwise they're around the same

I have all the last emojis in Gboard. Gboard use the set of emoji of your version of Android. Google did a change this year to accelerate the deployment of the emojis on Gboard through the play services.

SwiftKey use its own set of emojis. I guess.