90 days for trying to overthrown the government and verbally attacking the judge. What a fucking joke of a sentence.
Hey it's not like he did something insanely criminal, like owning a negligible amount of cannabis to enjoy in the privacy of his own home.
How about trying to vote with a provisional ballot after being told it's okay to vote and then being thrown in jail because it wasn't okay to vote.
You forgot to add that she did all of that while being black. If she had had the good sense to be white, she probably wouldn't have spent 5 years in jail.
Meanwhile Republicans who admitted to intentional vote fraud by voting in the name of others got almost nothing
He could have tweeted about defending America from January 6th rioters as a military veteran but also an anarchist. That'll get you some years. Nearly 4 in fact.
insulted a prosecutor and verbally attacked the judge who punished him.
Sounds like a certain ex-president who deserves to have his eventual sentence quadrupled.
Have we figured out how to execute someone multiple times?
I could do that, but are you sure you wanna go there? That's some Mengele type of evil. Let's maybe keep Pandoras box closed for now.
I'm ok with it, let's do it
Those aren't crimes though. Dude should get a sentence reflecting what he did, not reflecting his right to say political figures (and judges and prosecutors absolutely are) are fuckwits
Contempt of court is a crime. Also I like how you lumped the judicial and executive branches into "political figures" like there isn't a constitutional difference.
They're often elected. And it doesn't seem to mention a contempt of court charge
I don't know the difference and what does contempt mean?
I think the article makes it seem different than it is.
He was going to get a lighter sentence because he was showing remorse by playing guilty. Then his behavior between the plea and the sentencing showed that he wasn't actually remorseful, so they go back to what they would have sentenced him.
It's like if you get offered a discount on a bill if you pay early, then you pay late instead and have to pay the full amount. They aren't charging you more, they're just not offering the early discount because you didn't hold your end of the bargain up.
So, he's getting the sentence he deserved without credit for showing that he knows what he did was wrong.
Lesson for other defendants: the time to return to being an asshole is after everything has been settled.
He's still getting less than four months. It should be a lot worse to reflect the severity of what he did.
Article doesn't really say what he did, but the prosecutors only asked for twenty one days so probably fuck all
Why are you calling other people in this thread dumb for not reading the article when you haven't done the most basic amount of looking into it yourself?
Here is the sentencing memorandum from June (a few weeks prior to his sovcit outburst mentioned in the article, if I'm reading correctly) where the 21 day sentence was initially requested. It's reachable in two clicks from the article, and it describes in excruciating detail all of his participation in Jan 6, as well as the broader context around his social media posts.
He pleaded guilty to one of the four counts he was originally charged with, and the AP notes that over 400 Jan 6th defendants have done the same. It's unclear from the filing whether a plea agreement was offered; I would guess that it was, and that this is probably an effort to reduce the overall burden on the court system, because a) there are over 1200 individuals charges with crimes in connection with the events of Jan 6, and b) there is plenty of damning video evidence of most of it.
They got enough judges to throw black kids in jail for weed but not for Jan6 rioters lmao
Gee, what a mystery why I'd return an insult in kind. You must be as brilliant as the other guy
This guy thinks he can do exactly what Trump does and get away with it like Trump seems to always do. The root cause must be fixed.
Meaning Trump and his shills getting a sentence and even quadrupled? Hell, I'm all for it
Insulted a prosecutor and verbally attacked the judge who punished him.
The little guy getting an actual sentence out of it while cowardly judges refuse to toss trump in jail for worse.
for worse
I'd say they're both guilty of the exact same thing, they're just two halves of the same crime.
Without mooks like this, trump was essentially just a loud angry nuisance, at least as far as the election goes. He could rant about how much the election was stolen until his face went from orange to blue, but at the end of the day he couldn't have done anything about it.
And without people like trump to rile them up, most of these idiots probably would have just stayed home.
You need both halves of it for something like 1/6 to have taken place.
These judges are playing a long game that people like us are too ignorant to see.
Example; The judge's ruling in Colorado that kept him on the ballot? Found him factually guilty of insurrection.
No matter the verdict, this was going up the legal food chain. The next court has no choice but to accept that he's an insurrectionist. Feel me? That is now an established fact that an appellate court cannot disregard or change.
Fucking brilliant legal maneuvering.
So what? Everyone has known that Trump took part in an insurrection for years and it hasn't made a bit of difference. Unless you have a specific case in mind where that legal distinction is likely to make a difference then you're just debating the semantics of "nothing happened to him".
We already know history will not look favorably on Trump. Solidifying the words future historians will use to describe him doesn't make his election to a second term any less likely.
Actually no. The appellate hearings don't have to accept the lower court's findings and can ignore the opinion entirely to reach their own conclusions. Leaving him on the ballot creates a potential constitutional crisis. Consider the possibility that it doesn't reach the Supreme Court until Trump has been elected.
The best outcome is Trump is not the GOP nominee. Parties can set their own rules for primaries, but once he's on the ticket, you're talking about the courts disenfranchising a bunch of morons. And while we may all prefer that morons don't vote, the fact is that the legal system that protects their right to vote also protects everyone else's right to vote.
This was a justice splitting the baby to try to keep both sides from attacking politically and physically.
What the fuck is this? I'm not one for cruel and unusual punishment but these people will be able to make another insurrection by the time Trump loses in 2024 with these sentences. What the fuck? The point is to deter insurrectionists, these light ass sentences won't do shit.
Loads of the big guys are in for years. Sentences depend on what they did, I imagine this guy didn't do much
Just being there should earn you 10. What would these people who "didn't do much" have done if their plot was a success? No one there was benign.
Except maybe journalists.
Hey I'm not Israel, I exclude the press by default. Someone needs to document this for high school tests in 100 years, thats the only place this knowledge seems to be used anyway.
If you were around protesting and not breaking any laws you shouldn't even go to jail. It's not be back or white
They were insurrectionists, they werent there doing nothing. As soon as they stepped foot inside the capital it should have earned them at least enough of a sentence to miss the next 2 elections. These people were here to usurp our nation and ya'll were like "Nah some were just there bein' chill". Thats not how that works.
I'm an insurrectionist. those people were patriots. please don't lump me in with them.
I demand to have the convict extradited to Singapore, where they will add twenty lashes of the cane to the sentence.
I remember when the right wing was positively excited about the way Singapore does this for even minor infractions. The same bunch were popping chubbies over that guy in Vegas threatening to cut off the thumbs of people caught doing graffiti.
Now the very same bunch cry over how these "peaceful protesters" are being persecuted for "touring the Capitol", etc...
He says he’s a sovereen citizen
Cool. Strip him of his passport and drop him off in an airport in Madagascar. Now he's a sovereign citizen of that airport.
90 days for trying to overthrown the government and verbally attacking the judge. What a fucking joke of a sentence.
Hey it's not like he did something insanely criminal, like owning a negligible amount of cannabis to enjoy in the privacy of his own home.
How about trying to vote with a provisional ballot after being told it's okay to vote and then being thrown in jail because it wasn't okay to vote.
You forgot to add that she did all of that while being black. If she had had the good sense to be white, she probably wouldn't have spent 5 years in jail.
Meanwhile Republicans who admitted to intentional vote fraud by voting in the name of others got almost nothing
He could have tweeted about defending America from January 6th rioters as a military veteran but also an anarchist. That'll get you some years. Nearly 4 in fact.
30 days time served too. So it's just 2 more months.
Sounds like a certain ex-president who deserves to have his eventual sentence quadrupled.
Have we figured out how to execute someone multiple times?
I could do that, but are you sure you wanna go there? That's some Mengele type of evil. Let's maybe keep Pandoras box closed for now.
I'm ok with it, let's do it
Those aren't crimes though. Dude should get a sentence reflecting what he did, not reflecting his right to say political figures (and judges and prosecutors absolutely are) are fuckwits
Contempt of court is a crime. Also I like how you lumped the judicial and executive branches into "political figures" like there isn't a constitutional difference.
They're often elected. And it doesn't seem to mention a contempt of court charge
Brilliance personified.
I think the article makes it seem different than it is.
He was going to get a lighter sentence because he was showing remorse by playing guilty. Then his behavior between the plea and the sentencing showed that he wasn't actually remorseful, so they go back to what they would have sentenced him.
It's like if you get offered a discount on a bill if you pay early, then you pay late instead and have to pay the full amount. They aren't charging you more, they're just not offering the early discount because you didn't hold your end of the bargain up.
So, he's getting the sentence he deserved without credit for showing that he knows what he did was wrong.
Lesson for other defendants: the time to return to being an asshole is after everything has been settled.
He's still getting less than four months. It should be a lot worse to reflect the severity of what he did.
Article doesn't really say what he did, but the prosecutors only asked for twenty one days so probably fuck all
Why are you calling other people in this thread dumb for not reading the article when you haven't done the most basic amount of looking into it yourself?
Here is the sentencing memorandum from June (a few weeks prior to his sovcit outburst mentioned in the article, if I'm reading correctly) where the 21 day sentence was initially requested. It's reachable in two clicks from the article, and it describes in excruciating detail all of his participation in Jan 6, as well as the broader context around his social media posts.
He pleaded guilty to one of the four counts he was originally charged with, and the AP notes that over 400 Jan 6th defendants have done the same. It's unclear from the filing whether a plea agreement was offered; I would guess that it was, and that this is probably an effort to reduce the overall burden on the court system, because a) there are over 1200 individuals charges with crimes in connection with the events of Jan 6, and b) there is plenty of damning video evidence of most of it.
They got enough judges to throw black kids in jail for weed but not for Jan6 rioters lmao
Gee, what a mystery why I'd return an insult in kind. You must be as brilliant as the other guy
This guy thinks he can do exactly what Trump does and get away with it like Trump seems to always do. The root cause must be fixed.
Meaning Trump and his shills getting a sentence and even quadrupled? Hell, I'm all for it
The little guy getting an actual sentence out of it while cowardly judges refuse to toss trump in jail for worse.
I'd say they're both guilty of the exact same thing, they're just two halves of the same crime.
Without mooks like this, trump was essentially just a loud angry nuisance, at least as far as the election goes. He could rant about how much the election was stolen until his face went from orange to blue, but at the end of the day he couldn't have done anything about it.
And without people like trump to rile them up, most of these idiots probably would have just stayed home.
You need both halves of it for something like 1/6 to have taken place.
These judges are playing a long game that people like us are too ignorant to see.
Example; The judge's ruling in Colorado that kept him on the ballot? Found him factually guilty of insurrection.
No matter the verdict, this was going up the legal food chain. The next court has no choice but to accept that he's an insurrectionist. Feel me? That is now an established fact that an appellate court cannot disregard or change.
Fucking brilliant legal maneuvering.
So what? Everyone has known that Trump took part in an insurrection for years and it hasn't made a bit of difference. Unless you have a specific case in mind where that legal distinction is likely to make a difference then you're just debating the semantics of "nothing happened to him".
We already know history will not look favorably on Trump. Solidifying the words future historians will use to describe him doesn't make his election to a second term any less likely.
Actually no. The appellate hearings don't have to accept the lower court's findings and can ignore the opinion entirely to reach their own conclusions. Leaving him on the ballot creates a potential constitutional crisis. Consider the possibility that it doesn't reach the Supreme Court until Trump has been elected.
The best outcome is Trump is not the GOP nominee. Parties can set their own rules for primaries, but once he's on the ticket, you're talking about the courts disenfranchising a bunch of morons. And while we may all prefer that morons don't vote, the fact is that the legal system that protects their right to vote also protects everyone else's right to vote.
This was a justice splitting the baby to try to keep both sides from attacking politically and physically.
What the fuck is this? I'm not one for cruel and unusual punishment but these people will be able to make another insurrection by the time Trump loses in 2024 with these sentences. What the fuck? The point is to deter insurrectionists, these light ass sentences won't do shit.
Loads of the big guys are in for years. Sentences depend on what they did, I imagine this guy didn't do much
Just being there should earn you 10. What would these people who "didn't do much" have done if their plot was a success? No one there was benign.
Except maybe journalists.
Hey I'm not Israel, I exclude the press by default. Someone needs to document this for high school tests in 100 years, thats the only place this knowledge seems to be used anyway.
If you were around protesting and not breaking any laws you shouldn't even go to jail. It's not be back or white
They were insurrectionists, they werent there doing nothing. As soon as they stepped foot inside the capital it should have earned them at least enough of a sentence to miss the next 2 elections. These people were here to usurp our nation and ya'll were like "Nah some were just there bein' chill". Thats not how that works.
I'm an insurrectionist. those people were patriots. please don't lump me in with them.
Beer hall putsch
He got off easy.
Haha. Truly hilarious and awesome to see.
I demand to have the convict extradited to Singapore, where they will add twenty lashes of the cane to the sentence.
I remember when the right wing was positively excited about the way Singapore does this for even minor infractions. The same bunch were popping chubbies over that guy in Vegas threatening to cut off the thumbs of people caught doing graffiti.
Now the very same bunch cry over how these "peaceful protesters" are being persecuted for "touring the Capitol", etc...
He says he’s a sovereen citizen
Cool. Strip him of his passport and drop him off in an airport in Madagascar. Now he's a sovereign citizen of that airport.