3 days until reddit's 3rd party app shutdown, Lemmy users drive 985% surge with 5.7 million daily comments this month

MicroWave@lemmy.world to Fediverse@lemmy.world – 96 points –

From 528k daily comments on June 1, 2023 to 5.7 million daily comments on June 27, 2023.

Source: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats&days=30

Speaking of 3rd party apps, here's a list of all lemmy apps currently in development: https://lemmy.world/post/465785

For iOS, I'm testing Liftoff, Memmy, and Thunder. For Android, I'm testing Jerboa. What's everyone's favorite app so far?

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It's really nice to see genuinely thoughtful comments on lemmy. It's definitely a refreshing change from the endless streams of tired, overused jokes that dominate that other site.

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edit: do we really have to copy the '/s' for sarcasm?

@Hank It's just a nice thing in text based communication in general, as there are no tone or body cues to indicate sarcasm.

@MicroWave

I know but it so oftens ruins a joke if you are so focused on eliminating any ambiguity that the original purpose of your statement is lost.

The /s should remain a thing of the past. It’s embarrassing.

Dawn of the first day. 72 hours remains.

It's just sad. Like when you separate out the vitriol for spez, the whole situation just sucks. Reddit was my site for over a decade, and I know there are tens of thousands in the same situation as me. I thought I was insulated from this bullshit within Reddit, but clearly I was naive.

No one is really insulated. The way I explained it to someone is Reddit was like a girlfriend you dated for 10 years. It was great and it was mostly on autopilot. You both enjoyed each others company. Every so often you would get in a fight but it was never anything too extreme. The API change was like a massive blow up where you two finally say things that cannot be taken back. Afterwards your relationship isn't really the same. It is not necessarily damaged beyond repair, but one of the two in the relationship is just sorta sitting there thinking "This aint worth it anymore" so they go on a break to take some time. Many people will go back. Many will call it quits. Some will go between Lemmy and Reddit. But things are just not going to be the same moving forward.

I was also on reddit for more than 10 years, but in that time I have posted less there, than in a few days here.

Change keeps your brain young

I ultimately still need to use reddit for a few things, mainly a modding group from Skyrim I'm a part of and we use reddit as a sort of hub for our work, so I'm kind of stuck there until the heat death of either reddit or the project.

I do have hope for Lemmy though, but as of July 1st, reddit will lose me as part of their mobile ecosystem because I refuse to utilize that shit app of theirs.

Life is change. It's always good to be reminded of that by the relatively non-important things.

For android I was using Jerboa but switched to Liftoff and am liking it so far.

I'm having trouble clicking on some of the links on Liftoff which I have no issues with on Jerboa but it's still early stages so keeping my options open.

I like Liftoff, but have issues with duplicate posts, blocking communities, and something like 'you aren't logged into X, login to comment' when I am actually logged in. Liftoff and Jerboa both get better with each release though, and the releases are fast.

By default it integrates multiple instances into one feed. So you end up with duplicate posts since lemmy.world pulls in posts from lemmy.ml for example but then it will also show the original post from lemmy.ml. I suppose this feature could be useful if you wanted to look at multiple sites that weren't synced together already.

I'm done with Reddit. I can't support their behaviour so I'm moving on. I'm currently using Jerboa, and testing Liftoff and Thunder. All three are good, but Liftoff is my preference so far, just waiting for a few issues to be sorted which is happening over time. I'm interested to see what Sync does for Lemmy, as that was my go to Reddit app.

Really hoping they can get the version incompatibility and stability issues worked out. Most users are going to want to use a mobile app they can just get on the play store/app store and currently Jerboa is still experiencing a lot of crashes and weird glitchiness. I tried Thunder too, but it also crashes randomly, but at least it lets you log into whatever instance you want, unlike Jerboa 0.0.35+

I use wefwef.app, it's not an app but a website specialized for iOS. It feels like Apollo.

Memmy is almost feature complete. wefwef.app if you don‘t want to install an app or don‘t have a testflight ticket.

I’m using Mlem on iOS right now, seems pretty solid for the most part. I haven’t tried others yet, but now I will! Thanks!

Edit: follow up- wefwef feels super slick, very Apollo like, has local docker hosting option!

I’m tag-teaming Mlem and Memmy right now. Mlem is buggier and a little less feature-complete, but it feels nicer to use.

I've settled my focus on Memmy with some periodic checks on Mlem. I'm a sucker to try as many new Lemmy apps as I can but Memmy is where I spend my time. The development pace is amazing.

same here, i’m super impressed with how far along memmy has come in such a short time. really excited to see how all of these apps continue to improve but memmy is a clear #1 for me at this point in time

There seems to be a big difference between browsing /all this morning and from when I first made an account. People seem to be motivated to add content which is making Lemmy punch above its weight at the moment. The Shit per User (SPU) index is pretty high at the moment.

SPU... fuckin' a that's a good one. I'm trying to help push up the average the best I can.

This doesn't appear to be correct, it should be labelled total comments, by day, not per day. You can see the total number of comments on https://the-federation.info/platform/73.

The top two instances, lemmy.world and lemmy.ml have a total number of comments of 156331 and 188364.

Per day comments on lemmy.world averages between 6,000 - 10,000.

I think you're right. Thanks for the pointing that out. I've corrected the post.

For apps, Connect and Summit seem to be the best I've tried. Summit is closest to the app Slide that I used on the website that shall not be named.

Jerboa crashes on older servers so I haven't really been able to use it as Lemmy.world is a 17.X server because of the captcha removal "feature".

I’m using Memmy right now. All the Apollo users should fully migrate when it’s down.

I’ve chosen to go 100% cut off from Reddit but was a daily Apollo user. I averaged around a couple of hours of use each day with Apollo. Since I left Reddit a couple of weeks ago I tried only using the browser version which has been pretty hard. But now that I found Memmy I’m super happy. A lot of the interactions are similar to Apollo and I feel I can interact a lot better with the fediverse using the app.

Narwhal user and I cut the cord on the day the protests started. I just wanted to pull the band-aid off and move on. I was holding out hope that Reddit would reverse course, but it was pretty clear from their actions since then that that’s not happening. 6/30 was the original date I gave myself to delete posts/comments/accounts, so I’m scorched earth this Friday.

I also originally thought I’d stick things out on Apollo until the 30th, and get last use out of the app, but after the admin interaction with iamthatis where they told him his app was inefficient but also refused to explain how (real “it’s not my job to educate you” hours) and then the spez AMA, I dipped. Edited and deleted my history. Account still exists because it’s a point of contact for some people doing website things, but that will go away once I get those people messaging my email.

I can’t go back to browsing Reddit after seeing how terribly they interacted with iamthatis, and with the community.

I still use Infinity for reddit from time to time. But these days I spent most of my online time with Jerboa. I had tried the offcial Reddit app and it's basically unusable on my phone.

Started by checking out Mlem. Currently using Liftoff and enjoying the feel so far.

Wait, there really are 5.7 million comments a day on Lemmy?

Maybe, but how many of them are by bots?

You know, if we had mass tagging built in to the platform, it would solve a lot of bot problems. Probably create whole new ones, too.

Yeah there are a lot of communities out there where there is just a bot that appears to be mirroring what is posted on the subreddit it mirrors. There are a ton of posts like that I have seen.

Wow that's crazy! Curious to see what will happen on the 30th.

Sync will blast an announcement in the reddit version about Sync for Lemmy, so I think that should be among the first wave. Curious to see what happens myself!

Not bad a all🌈

Exactly. Helps to explain the increase in content lately. I'm hoping to see more people in smaller niche communities soon.

Looks like it has already started. People are reporting limiting errors in apps.

I was just using Sync for Reddit when I noticed I can no longer load comments and then a pop up came up that said I was being rate limited by reddit. F this, I'll no longer visit that site even.

I'm a bit dubious about this stat; it feels similar to the User's stat being over run by bots.

Lemmy has about 50,000 users, similar to Kbin, but it's users are commenting 120 times and also posting 16 times each a day on average? That seems unrealistic.

For comparison, Kbin (which actually has a slightly larger active user base) is produced about 100,000 comments a day, which is about 2 comments a day and about 0.6 posts per user per day. Interestingly Kbin's total users and active users are almost identical.

The threadiverse is certainly doing well, but I think the Lemmy stats continue to be skewed away from reality. I'm wondering if this is not actually all to do with bots, but some fundamental error in the counting/collection? Are the same comments and posts and maybe even the total user count in Lemmy being counted multiple times in the data fed back by the different servers?

Lemmy has about 50,000 users, similar to Kbin, but it’s users are commenting 120 times and also posting 16 times each a day on average? That seems unrealistic.

I think there might some confusion in your comment. The post's data is for all lemmy instances, which is larger than just lemmy.world.

As of this moment, lemmy.world has about 51k users, followed by lemmy.ml's 39k and beehaw.org's 11k. If you take the top 10 non-bot lemmy instances, they add up to roughly 136k users. And that's just 10 out of 1000 instances. Source: https://the-federation.info/platform/73

All of that to say your math might be wrong.

You need to juice the numbers by posting each paragraph as a separate comment, otherwise you'll never hit your daily 120.

Gonna be super interesting to see this curve from 1st Jul...

Neat, I’m pretty sure this my first comment! Excited to be here

Very impressive for Lemmy.

Kbin is not doing so bad either. 2k to 100k daily comments this month, so a ~4500% increase.

Kbin looks a little bit incomplete at first, but I find it's interface so logical and satisfying (except for top bar), that I jump back every time I try to use lemmy

It's been in development a lot less than Lemmy. By how things look right now I'm preffering kBin over Lemmy.

Not a fan of Lemmy's "new Reddit" type interface (posting from kbin), but I'm happy to see the Fediverse getting some traction regardless.

Let’s just all agree that some prefers Kbin’s interface and others like Lemmy.

Not trying to stir shit, just genuinely curious what you have a problem with in Lemmy's UI? Seems fine to me so far.

As a desktop user, I hate all the negative space on the left and right of the screen. I wish it looked more like Old Reddit.

If you're comfortable with CSS you can use a browser plugin to modify the CSS to address specific dislikes. I've got mine set to use most of the page width, increase the sub-comment indent size, and a few other little tweaks.

There are some fancy complete restyles you can use too, but if you just want to tweak a few things an injection plugin is a good option.

What's crazy is this is only tracking comment traffic. The real unique traffic should be an order of magnitude higher, at least.

Agreed. Using that 90-9-1 rule with 90% being lurkers, there are probably ~470k daily lurkers based on the 47k daily active users who comment or post on lemmy.