No thanks, that stuff is going to be full of micrometals from that can.
You're in luck! The can is lined in plastic
Don't even get me started on all the preservatives that shit has in it to keep my micro-plastics "fresh"
No thanks, I'll be getting my micro-plastics from the farmers markets, like any red blooded American should.
I prefer to get mine from the source. That way you get to see how they have been treated. Free range hormone free microplastics really are worth the extra money
You're not wrong. Unfortunately I live in the middle of nowhere where there's just farms and shit. I have to drive all the way to the city to get anywhere near producers of free range plastics.
Woman at the fishmarket buying a fish. "Do you have a plastic bag with that please?", "Sure madame, there's one inside the fish".
Green color means it's healthy.
"organic"
Is that green to you?
Is it not? Looks like a blueish-green to me. I'd definitely say it's greener than it is blue.
I prefer the beige color without any added dyes.
Back in my day, we had to churn our plastics by hand, for hours. My grandfather wouldn’t let us play until we finished our chores. Kids these days don’t know how easy they have it.
Sent this to a mate... we were at the shops and he picks up this tiny glass coke bottle for a drink and I'm all like, but this one is cheaper and you get more, what's the deal?? To which he replied "microplastics" and I was like "bitch! I helped you smoke a quarter through a garden hose last night, stfu with you microplastics bs.." true story
Gross. Those of us that 3d print get the good stuff fresh off the machine. Never as good sitting in can like this.
Wild caught clearly the premium. That damn farm raised is destroying the oceans!
Hmmm idk.
Is it gluten free?
Yoooooo DoctorPhotograph came to Lemmy?
Is microplastic in soil any worse than silicate sand? I mean once it's inert it's inert right? Probably not the best sub to ask this lol
Not the right sub, but entirely the right person to be asking this question to.
Like with most soil things, the answer is a mix beteeen "it's complicated' and "we don't know". This may sound like a cop out, but soil science didn't really take off until the 1940s (thanks Jenny), so it's a very new science. On top of that you have multiple disciplines (biology, mineralogy, chemistry, physics, and pedology itself) that tie into soil. Soil itself also has substantial spatial heterogeneity.
Short answer: I don't know.
Long answer:
I don't know, but I suspect it might be more labile in soil.
Here is why:
First thing to consider is the chemical and biological resistance of the plastic. Generally plastics are pretty stable to degradation, but plasticizers are more biologically active and can have all kinds of nasty effects.
Stability will ultimately be determined by feedstock (type of plastic) climatic factors, soil chemistry (primarily pH), organic matter content (high OM -> possibly broader soil Ecosystem -> more chance of some weird soil microbe being able to break things down), and particle size (smaller particles break down faster).
Given that soils have more microbial activity (which can generate weak humic acids too - see podzolification), particle size of the plastics are sand sized or less, and that soils are generally in the pH 5-7 range, it's likely that they are more mobile and easily degraded versus inert sand. Whether this gets tied back up into soil organic matter is a whole other can of worms.
So yeah. Idk. I think so though.
If you're comparing micro plastic to just sand in terms of stability - sand is far more stable.
Oh wow thanks for the detailed answer! I guess the most likely answer is that it probably will degrade over a long time span, and during that time negative effects could happen.
Correct. It's a similar process to geochemical weathering of rocks, which can cause major issues in mining. In that case, the rocks often contain pyrite (sulphide minerals) which are fine if they aren't exposed to oxygen. When you dig up the rock, though it starts a chain reaction which results in low pH leachate, which can then make metals mobile.
I believe it's really just like silicate sand. The problem with microplastics isn't actually the plastics itself. Plastics itself is chemically inert and therefore non-toxic.
The problems are:
Physical: larger junks can cause constipation of the digestive track, which is a problem for some sea animals.
Chemical: Plastics often have additives that give them special powers, like blocking UV-light. These additives are often toxic, unfortunately. This is why producers nowadays try to minimize the use of additives in plastics. But still, they are there.
As far as I know, silica doesn't break down into toxic compounds with exposure to weathering, UV radiation and time like plastic does. Microplastic doesn't just stay as it is
Yeah, check out the other detailed answers.
I always buy whole grain
I had no idea they come in a can now, can't wait to try it
Do they still make that face wash with the plastic balls in it
Some countries banned plastic microbeads in 2017, so a lot of those face washes changed the formula from plastics to environmentally friendly materials. They do still make them though
Sfunny, it looks quite similar to Soylent Green but is in every way its opposite.
So... corporations figured out how to clean the world, and then sell a cleaner Earth back to us, one can at a time? This sounds like the libertarian dream ocean.
No thanks, that stuff is going to be full of micrometals from that can.
You're in luck! The can is lined in plastic
Don't even get me started on all the preservatives that shit has in it to keep my micro-plastics "fresh"
No thanks, I'll be getting my micro-plastics from the farmers markets, like any red blooded American should.
I prefer to get mine from the source. That way you get to see how they have been treated. Free range hormone free microplastics really are worth the extra money
You're not wrong. Unfortunately I live in the middle of nowhere where there's just farms and shit. I have to drive all the way to the city to get anywhere near producers of free range plastics.
Woman at the fishmarket buying a fish. "Do you have a plastic bag with that please?", "Sure madame, there's one inside the fish".
Green color means it's healthy.
"organic"
Is that green to you?
Is it not? Looks like a blueish-green to me. I'd definitely say it's greener than it is blue.
I prefer the beige color without any added dyes.
Back in my day, we had to churn our plastics by hand, for hours. My grandfather wouldn’t let us play until we finished our chores. Kids these days don’t know how easy they have it.
Is this an Omega Mart product?
Reddit OP
Sent this to a mate... we were at the shops and he picks up this tiny glass coke bottle for a drink and I'm all like, but this one is cheaper and you get more, what's the deal?? To which he replied "microplastics" and I was like "bitch! I helped you smoke a quarter through a garden hose last night, stfu with you microplastics bs.." true story
Gross. Those of us that 3d print get the good stuff fresh off the machine. Never as good sitting in can like this.
Wild caught clearly the premium. That damn farm raised is destroying the oceans!
Hmmm idk.
Is it gluten free?
Yoooooo DoctorPhotograph came to Lemmy?
Is microplastic in soil any worse than silicate sand? I mean once it's inert it's inert right? Probably not the best sub to ask this lol
Not the right sub, but entirely the right person to be asking this question to.
Like with most soil things, the answer is a mix beteeen "it's complicated' and "we don't know". This may sound like a cop out, but soil science didn't really take off until the 1940s (thanks Jenny), so it's a very new science. On top of that you have multiple disciplines (biology, mineralogy, chemistry, physics, and pedology itself) that tie into soil. Soil itself also has substantial spatial heterogeneity.
Short answer: I don't know.
Long answer: I don't know, but I suspect it might be more labile in soil.
Here is why:
First thing to consider is the chemical and biological resistance of the plastic. Generally plastics are pretty stable to degradation, but plasticizers are more biologically active and can have all kinds of nasty effects.
Stability will ultimately be determined by feedstock (type of plastic) climatic factors, soil chemistry (primarily pH), organic matter content (high OM -> possibly broader soil Ecosystem -> more chance of some weird soil microbe being able to break things down), and particle size (smaller particles break down faster).
Given that soils have more microbial activity (which can generate weak humic acids too - see podzolification), particle size of the plastics are sand sized or less, and that soils are generally in the pH 5-7 range, it's likely that they are more mobile and easily degraded versus inert sand. Whether this gets tied back up into soil organic matter is a whole other can of worms.
So yeah. Idk. I think so though.
If you're comparing micro plastic to just sand in terms of stability - sand is far more stable.
Oh wow thanks for the detailed answer! I guess the most likely answer is that it probably will degrade over a long time span, and during that time negative effects could happen.
Correct. It's a similar process to geochemical weathering of rocks, which can cause major issues in mining. In that case, the rocks often contain pyrite (sulphide minerals) which are fine if they aren't exposed to oxygen. When you dig up the rock, though it starts a chain reaction which results in low pH leachate, which can then make metals mobile.
I believe it's really just like silicate sand. The problem with microplastics isn't actually the plastics itself. Plastics itself is chemically inert and therefore non-toxic. The problems are:
As far as I know, silica doesn't break down into toxic compounds with exposure to weathering, UV radiation and time like plastic does. Microplastic doesn't just stay as it is
Yeah, check out the other detailed answers.
I always buy whole grain
I had no idea they come in a can now, can't wait to try it
Do they still make that face wash with the plastic balls in it
Some countries banned plastic microbeads in 2017, so a lot of those face washes changed the formula from plastics to environmentally friendly materials. They do still make them though
Sfunny, it looks quite similar to Soylent Green but is in every way its opposite.
So... corporations figured out how to clean the world, and then sell a cleaner Earth back to us, one can at a time? This sounds like the libertarian dream ocean.
I only eat lab grown microplastics.