Supporting the Rules

le_throosh@lemmy.dbzer0.com to Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ@lemmy.dbzer0.com – 25 points –

cross-posted from: https://pawb.social/post/7233504

Supporting the Rules

alt text: "the state of the animation industry"

"you're pirating that show? don't you wanna support the creators?" "I AM the creator."

"haha the only way I can show future employers my work is to send a link to a bunch of pirated copies of it haha what a nightmare haha"

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Dana Terrace, creator of The Owl House, pirates her own show.

I imagine the creator of Final Space might do the same

Still mad about this one

Final space was so good. Cartoon Expanse

Same thing happened with South Park until they started posting all the episodes themselves on their website.

Owl House and South Park truly belong to same category

How is it that Piracy is better than Key reselling sites? Am I missing something?

TLDR from Factorio devs: piracy costs only pirates(electricity bill, internet bills), resellers costs game studios a lot(fees, chargebacks) and often are part of fraud and money launderung.

They sometimes buy keys using stolen credit cards. When the fraud is found out, the banks will request the money from the developer. They in turn often don't have a way to lock the fraudulent key, so it remains valid.

The costs for the initial bank transfer, plus the time invested in returning the money to the credit card holder are payed by the developer.

The key reseller has a 100% profit margin, the customer has a valid and cheap game key, and the developer actually lost time and money.

Never realised this could lead to a loss from the game dev

Edit: So do it for Ubisoft, EA etc. but not for indie games. Got it.

Oh wait. realises you can't do it for big companies anymore

Old employer bought Windows keys from G2A.

They’re not around anymore..

What's the thing to the left of steam?

They are saying they would like you to buy the game either from them directly (I assume on their website or something) or via steam, or GoG or if all else fails for you then pirate it.

I assume they are stating in order of preference.

Presumably if you buy the game directly from them they get 100% of the cut.

But to be fair, if you are an animator - you are really into pain.

I had such high hopes for HBO Max as a bastion for animation before they got completely fucked. They nuked Summer Camp Island (a very wholesome, charming, and slightly weird show) right before its final season came out, delaying the premiere more than a year and with zero notice to its creator, Julia Pott. Pott implied as legally as she could that the season would get out there one way or another, so either someone at CN has a heart or her threat worked.

And to this day they deny that Summer Camp Island, OK KO, Infinity Train (one of CN's top performing shows!), and others even existed, while cutting funding for even more shows. I'm still devastated, we had a beautiful revival in the 2010s, but now there's barely anything new on at all. So many up and coming creators utterly shafted no matter what network they work with.

All we really have left is Prime and Netflix, and god knows those aren't reliable. What a mess...

Didn't Nintendo get caught selling pirated copies of their old NES games?

I thought that was myth busted.

NES mini was sold with pirated games in format developed by pirates

I have this problem. A couple of AAA projects I worked on, years of work, got cancelled and all that exists now is "stolen" footage. Then there's the dozen mobile apps that have been pulled from the app stores (or gotten "out of date" and no longer supported). Can't find APKs or store listings, just 3rd party site reviews are the only evidence of their existence.

You don't save anything to show later?

Probably their contracts forbid them to, so even if they save something, it is practically piracy anyway.

Most code written by software engineers work the same way. The code is owned by the company, the employee can't keep any of it after you leave or is fired.

Random question: does anyone here know someone who has acces to MLP seasons 1-6 music files? I'm interested in instrumentals and original files before lossy compression.

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"Don't you want to support the creators"

Yeah, preferably them rather than the majority share go to Spotify or Netflix.

Anyone got a link to some reading on this subject? This is the first I'm hearing about it and it seems pretty complex.

They are referring to how Zaslav keeps archiving animation to not pay people.

https://dailyutahchronicle.com/2022/09/19/animated-content-removal-problem/

This is the latest example that sparked it off again, but stuff like this has been going on for a decade. Many animators and vfx artists who work for high profile companies never get the final versions of their work and sometimes work on locked down servers where they can’t easily copy the work for themselves. They are at the whim of the company to provide them the files. Usually they are ignored so the artists resort to pirating the work to then edit it down and showcase on their websites and reels.