Lemmy.world updated to 0.18.1

Ruud@lemmy.worldmod to Lemmy.World Announcements@lemmy.world – 1049 points –

We've updated Lemmy.world to Lemmy 0.18.1.

For the release notes, see https://lemmy.world/post/1139237

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"This release includes major improvements to performance, specifically optimizations of database queries. Special thanks to @phiresky, @ruud, @sunaurus and many others for investigating these."

Hehe, lemmy.world doing some stress testing for the entire lemmy project.

Ooh I need to check the size of the custom emoji 😄

I find it hilarious how the most random shit always changes with updates. Like I just noticed how the badges for mod and OP changed on posts, and so I knew there's an update. Who keeps constantly fidgeting with these things?

Ed: to be clear, I'm not dissing anyone. Keep it up folks

Yeah I wonder what the reasoning behind that was. Personally I preferred the old way, where it was completedly filled in. Made it easier to notice the tag by color. It also aligned more with the rest of the Lemmy UI and it's filled-in green buttons.

Haha, this is how fast-moving open source projects work, things change constantly as they believe it's better to just get (perceived) improvements out of the door when they're cooked up, instead of waiting in any capacity.

Awesome, now block threads.net from this instance. Lemmy.ml already did it.

I'm just gonna leave Lemmy.world while I'm ahead. The quietness says all we need to know.

Hi! I noticed an issue with the headers sent by Lemmy.world.

Headers sent from and to this website's official UI look like this:

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
server: nginx/1.18.0 (Ubuntu)
date: Fri, 07 Jul 2023 23:35:17 GMT
content-type: application/json
vary: accept-encoding, Origin, Access-Control-Request-Method, Access-Control-Request-Headers
content-encoding: gzip
access-control-allow-origin: *
access-control-allow-methods: GET, POST, PUT, OPTIONS
access-control-allow-headers: DNT,User-Agent,X-Requested-With,If-Modified-Since,Cache-Control,Content-Type,Range
access-control-expose-headers: content-encoding, content-type, vary, Content-Length,Content-Range
X-Firefox-Spdy: h2

Which is fine. However, headers received by custom clients look like this:

HTTP/2 200 OK
server: nginx/1.18.0 (Ubuntu)
date: Fri, 07 Jul 2023 23:33:50 GMT
content-type: application/json
vary: accept-encoding, Origin, Access-Control-Request-Method, Access-Control-Request-Headers
content-encoding: gzip
access-control-allow-origin: https://natoboram.github.io
access-control-expose-headers: content-encoding, access-control-allow-origin, content-type, vary
access-control-allow-origin: *
access-control-allow-methods: GET, POST, PUT, OPTIONS
access-control-allow-headers: DNT,User-Agent,X-Requested-With,If-Modified-Since,Cache-Control,Content-Type,Range
access-control-expose-headers: Content-Length,Content-Range
X-Firefox-Spdy: h2

There's two access-control-allow-origin! This still breaks web clients.

At first I thought it was a Lemmy problem, but lemmy.ml doesn't have this problem. @ruud@lemmy.world It's a lemmy.world problem indeed.

I'll check that. It's to do with the CORS settings that changed in recent Lemmy update

Hi Ruud, was wondering if you could check if lemmy.world/.well-known/security.txt actually exists on the server. It was added in 0.18.1 but either isn't being created or isn't public.

My favourite thing except the emoji is the new theme

Hahah hadn’t seen that one, looks nice! Reminds me of the good old days..

Haha exactly! I just need to find my dot matrix printer paper with the holes and I'm all set to relive my youth

Ohh in my youth we had a MSX…

Awesome! We had BBC Micro in schools here, I think at home we had a Commodore or it might have been an Amiga! it is a bit hard to remember so far back :) I remember writing a letter to my dad on it, quoting Monty Python and calling him a bastard lol, not knowing exactly what I was saying at the time. Ah, fond memories!

That is the ugliest thing I have ever seen. What the fuck.

Mobile browser is ultra fast and stable, and Jerboa is running like a charm! Appreciate all you and your team's hard work.

Can you please give us a straight answer regarding blocking threads.net? If you don't intend to do so, there are those of us who want to know so that we can leave.

I'm not familiar with this blocking threads controversy. Can you EIL5?

Threads big and scary. Smol bois in the Fediverse have been discussing preemptively defederating from Threads due to how big and scary it is in an attempt to protect themselves and the Fediverse as a whole.

Threads is the new Facebook-owned twitter come. It uses the activity pub protocol and is therefore part of the fediverse.

People are concerned that Facebook with embrace the fediverse, enhance it with me features (as they will be the largest developers on the platform) and then either deliberately or because no-one can keep up with their development extinguish it.

Definitely notice the improved speed and fewer errors lately. Thanks so much for hosting a great instance, and for keeping up with its needs.

It’s working great, but we would appreciate an update in regards to letting meta in our instance or not

Thanks for the update! But I noticed an issue: it seems you haven't commented on defederating from Threads? Please let us know if you are so we can respond accordingly.

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Lemmy.world running better and better, thank yall for all that you do!

Thank you! Much faster, and no JSON errors so far!

Definitely snappier! Thanks for all the hard work!

Where can I learn about transferring my community to another instance? Lemmy.worlds silence about threads means he has no intent to defederate so I need to move over to lemmy.ml.

Or is this not possible? Do I just need to walk away from my community because @ruud doesn’t care about the issue?

If that’s the case, how do I add a mod that doesn’t care about meta expressly stating they are going to add features to ActivityPub protocol (step two of EEE)? I don’t want to keep coming back here if it is federated with threads but I don’t need to leave whoever is staying here high and dry.

If you move, don't move to Lemmy.ml, move to smaller instances

It really seems like having my own personal instance is the way to go. The only users I’d need to have are mods of any community I create on it. Then I can defederate with tech co instances. damn. I was really starting to like “local” here, but the fact that @ruud@lemmy.world is totally silent about threads is just absolute BS.

Make your own instances. No more issues.

Is there a quality guide for how to do this? Preferably hosted rather than my home server.

Use the ansible Lemmy install, it's very simple and will also create https certs and everything. But you need a domain first, pointed at your hosted server ip address.

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ansible

So basically:

  • Buy domain
  • Rent a server somewhere (hetzner is great and cheap).
  • Point domain at server ip.
  • Use the ansible install against your server to install everything.

That's pretty much it. The ansible install takes care of everything.

Then you need to subscribe to some other instance community from your instance so other instances know you exist, for federation to work.

There are multiple.

Perhaps point me one that you, in your judgment, think is particularly good?

Im just a noob thats interested. I havent tried it yet. But ive found a couple guides.

Check out the self hosting communities. Ill see if i can find the one im thinking of but Lemmy also has an official guide in the documentation.

Glad to see the admins keeping the instance up to date

Nice to see speedups. I always thought it was ironic that kbin was faster than Lemmy when kbin is php and lemmy is rust. Makes sense it was database stuff. You can't solve that with language choice.

This is just gettin' better and better. Congrats and thanks for your efforts!

Woo! Thanks for keeping this going in your spare time, hope you're getting time for cappuccinos! Congrats on the credits to you and all the team 👍

Awesome! Thanks for all your hard work and providing an excellent community experience.

It has been working great. Smooth like butter.

Thank you!

Keep up the great work! I hope you can manage to get some time for self-care in.

Have any comments on the overall load on the server now and how it might look with any further growth?

How does lemmy compare to say mastodon or calckey in terms of server load for example?

Thanks @ruud@lemmy.world . Will this be normal cadence ? You are doing what you can because of major bug fixes but should the largest lemmy instance be the latest version ?

I suppose this fixes issues with sorting by Active, Hot etc.

Any plans to allow cryptocurrency donations to help fund the costs of the servers? If you post a Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash and Litecoin address in the sidebar under Donations, I will send some crypto now and them to help with the costs.

Have been looking into this, haven't yet found an easy way to accept donations via crypto. It needs to be transparent so people can see what's donated, without having to dig through the blockchain :-) When I find an option I'll add it.

0.18.2 is out, btw

Yeah, but we run a special build with the retry-queue disabled, if we don't we need to restart every 30 mins because of memory leaks. So I've requested another built of 0.18.2 without the retry