We Don’t Need Warrior Cops Policing Campus Protests
Fixed the headline
We Don't Need Warrior Cops Policing Campus Protests
Period.
Are you smoking crack? Just when I think people can't get any more liberal than Reddit...I'm introduced to Lemmy...
You're welcome to leave anytime. In fact, I would encourage it!
It’s not liberalism. There are ideologies further left than liberalism. Not that neo-liberalism is a left wing ideology at all.
We can still have sheriff's departments, augment them with a citizen militia or someshit that is conscripted at random. Cant be worse than LAPD or NYPD at minimum.
It’s a reference to warrior training, linked and explained above - its sweeping police training across the nation to think a candy bar is a reason to shoot a child and leading to misinformation about drugs like fentanyl to make cops have panic attacks at the mere sight of the stuff, sometimes even passing out.
No, we just need MORE cops, at least where I live...thanks to liberals and their "defund" movement...
The "defund" (aka, the move funding to more effective places) movement didn't get anything done almost anywhere. I don't know a single place where funding didn't end up going up. I'd recommend looking into it yourself, and also checking up on your media literacy to see if you are sufficiently critical of what they tell you to believe.
The point of the defund movement was actually generally pro-cop, in that cops shouldn't have to do every single job. They shouldn't have to be councilors, mental health care providers, and whatever else. We need all these random jobs to be done by people with proper training. We need cops when we need violence. That's what they're trained to do. We need to increase finding overall, but move some portion of the funding of cops elsewhere.
Again though, this didn't happen almost anywhere. I have heard of a few places that managed to set up groups that go in to de-escalate and calmly check out non-violent crimes being committed, but it's really rare. I don't think the funding of cops decreased in those places either.
I’ve seen one of these in action; I was walking to get coffee, and there was a homeless man on an open corner sitting down. The van showed up, and I hung around in case they had any issues.
They asked about him, asked if he was okay, asked if they could give him a ride anywhere, and said they had warm dry socks in the van if they could help him get somewhere. No judgement, no cajoling, no trick to force him to go to a shelter, though they did mention a few that could help him. I’d much rather see this than… oh let’s just say houston, where I saw a paramedic yell at a homeless guy and told him if he wanted to go to the hospital he had to walk 2 miles that way (out of his district) and call 911 again.
St Pete, FL diverted money intended to hire more cops into hiring social workers. It has gone well. This was the latest article I could find on it.
Yeah, it's definitely the fault of the people who are pushing for reform, and civilian oversight.
Staffing shortages couldn't possibly be because there are tons of cops who didn't want a bright light shined on their horrible, abusive behavior that they have been allowed to get away with, completely unchecked, since time immemorial....
What we need is to de-fang the police unions, force them into the same collective bargaining pools as the rest of the employees in their municipalities, like all the other EMS workers, and then make them accountable to the civilians they are policing so we find police who actually give a fuck about bettering their communities.
Like BLM? They turned out to be scam. I think most African Americans would agree that MORE police presence in their neighborhoods is needed, not less...just ask Oakland.
most African Americans would agree …
Another white guy deciding what African Americans want without bothering to ask them.
You really like collecting downvotes. You are very good at sharing bad opinions.
"You are very good at sharing opinions." FIFY
Hmm. No, I meant my comment to be subjective, as in, your opinions are bad within the scope of my viewpoint. I don't need it to be subjectively "fixed" to be a useless statement like how Twitter artists "fixed" animated characters. Hope you have a great day regardless.
It’s 2024. I can’t believe trumpers still don’t understand what that was all about.
I know what it was about...it was all talk, just like the BLM thing...nothing but people complaining about how horrible cops are because of a couple idiots....but please, by all means, keep telling everyone how they DON'T need to be funding the police that much...
Hilarious. This place needs some trolls to shake shit up.
Non-Liberal/democrat= Troll
I guess that's the way around here...just like Reddit.
Dude… you’re here purposeful disparaging a well known protest by calling it “nothing but people complaining.”
You don’t get it be the victim when you’re intention antagonizing people. You’re a fucking troll. Period. You don’t see people going to Tryth Social and whining about trumps Nazi rallies and then getting bent out of shape when they’re called out, do you?
Hey. I responded to you before this post was made with more information explaining more details about the movement. That comment now has a reply with a link to an article you might find informative. If you are actually open to more information, here's the link to the comment. You should for sure check the reply with the link.
It's like inviting a bunch of drunk frat boys to a house party. They're just gonna show up break shit and rape people
I don't know why so many people think frat boys are just going to rape a bunch of people. Sure there are some.. but fraternities can also be pretty chill.
I imagine because there's thousands of date rapes reported (a small fraction of the total number since most are unreported) in universities connected with frat houses.
Sexual assault, abuse and deaths being the primary reasons a lot of fraternity houses are shutdown on campuses.
But that's just off the top of my head...
Warrior… hahahha wet paper towels with guns.. big fucking mouth in a group or when its a baby with a waterpistol but running in the other direction when it gets really serious. Kinda like trump running in a burning building to save the kiddies Hahahahahaha yeah, no.
Police violence is a non issue for people in power. It is extremely sad.
We Don’t Need Warrior Cops Policing Campus Protestsperiod.
FTFY.
Fuck the police.
ACAB
Smoke more pork
We Don’t Need Warrior Cops Policing Campus Protests
Well, it's not like they can call in the National Guard.
/s ;p
This is a reference that I'm afraid not enough people understand.
Then college administrations should stop calling them so you can blame the police.
Clearly we do. But the children here will never understand that.
Could you be misunderstanding the purpose of the police? Hint: they're not meant to protect the public
Last I checked, one of their core functions is to prevent trespassing and vandalism.
So, what do the Universities do? Just let them stay there as long as they want?
I mean, Lemmy lets you stay even though you are annoying as fuck, and nobody brutalizes you for sharing your viewpoints (psychotic as they may be). Perhaps you could put that shoe on the other foot if you could first pull it out of your mouth.
Is this a joke? I'm probably the ONLY person on this entire site that leans Right, and I've been called every name in the book for my opinions because they don't align with the Left....
Yeah but ya aint been banned dumbass. Ya can yap about whatever bullshit ya want without ya gettin banned. Freedom of speech in action fucker, ya can say whatever shit ya want and I can call ya a fucktard.
The ideal of freedom of speech is to say what ya want, that doesnt mean anyone has to agree, listen, or stay quiet. So keep on yapping and maybe youll make a good point eventually.
How many times have you been pepper sprayed or clubbed for sharing your stupid shitty opinions on Lemmy
Yes. Property is not as important as life.
But not other students lives right? I mean, the whole reason Colombia did what they did was because other students were afraid. More specifically, Jewish students. But, they don't matter, right?
Hi, just dropping by reading the comments. I believe Jewish students were a part of the protesters so you can't really go that route without adding a conditional on which Jewish students were in danger.
If I'm reading this right, the groups themselves were peaceful, but individuals which may have been just anti-Israel instead of pro-Palestine or outside agitators taking advantage of the situation stirred things up towards violence.
The administration was ineffective in identifying these individuals or maintaining the overall peace, so instead members of the peaceful groups were arrested in order to shut the whole thing down.
So from this perspective, i can see why you would say that.
If I'm reading this right, the groups themselves were peaceful, but individuals which may have been just anti-Israel instead of pro-Palestine or outside agitators taking advantage of the situation stirred things up towards violence.
Something like this is always the line used when there's protest violence and you really want to support the cause and so feel a need to minimize or disregard any violence.
It is also a common method used to incite violence at peaceful protests in order to disperse them. This is seen as such more clearly when the individuals apprehended are not the ones causing violence and instead are part of what seems to be the leadership of said protests.
As long as they're peaceful, then pretty much, yes. A state university where the land is publicly owned (government "owned" property), it sounds like they were exercising their rights to assemble, speak, and petition the government...
But they weren't peaceful, that's the issue. The whole reason the university went in was because the protestors were putting other students at risk, more specifically, Jewish students.
From what I've heard since then, there was some vandalism / breaking and entering going on. I haven't heard about any violence directed at people, but if they're breaking into buildings, it is reasonable to stop them. If they were all just peacefully (meaning non-violent, not necessarily quiet) camped out on the quad, then I would say the govt had do right to remove them.
They weren't? Cool, show me some videos of protesters attacking or threatening Jewish students.
Fixed the headline
Period.
Are you smoking crack? Just when I think people can't get any more liberal than Reddit...I'm introduced to Lemmy...
You're welcome to leave anytime. In fact, I would encourage it!
It’s not liberalism. There are ideologies further left than liberalism. Not that neo-liberalism is a left wing ideology at all.
We can still have sheriff's departments, augment them with a citizen militia or someshit that is conscripted at random. Cant be worse than LAPD or NYPD at minimum.
Forgot to strike out "warrior" too
It’s a reference to warrior training, linked and explained above - its sweeping police training across the nation to think a candy bar is a reason to shoot a child and leading to misinformation about drugs like fentanyl to make cops have panic attacks at the mere sight of the stuff, sometimes even passing out.
No, we just need MORE cops, at least where I live...thanks to liberals and their "defund" movement...
The "defund" (aka, the move funding to more effective places) movement didn't get anything done almost anywhere. I don't know a single place where funding didn't end up going up. I'd recommend looking into it yourself, and also checking up on your media literacy to see if you are sufficiently critical of what they tell you to believe.
The point of the defund movement was actually generally pro-cop, in that cops shouldn't have to do every single job. They shouldn't have to be councilors, mental health care providers, and whatever else. We need all these random jobs to be done by people with proper training. We need cops when we need violence. That's what they're trained to do. We need to increase finding overall, but move some portion of the funding of cops elsewhere.
Again though, this didn't happen almost anywhere. I have heard of a few places that managed to set up groups that go in to de-escalate and calmly check out non-violent crimes being committed, but it's really rare. I don't think the funding of cops decreased in those places either.
I’ve seen one of these in action; I was walking to get coffee, and there was a homeless man on an open corner sitting down. The van showed up, and I hung around in case they had any issues.
They asked about him, asked if he was okay, asked if they could give him a ride anywhere, and said they had warm dry socks in the van if they could help him get somewhere. No judgement, no cajoling, no trick to force him to go to a shelter, though they did mention a few that could help him. I’d much rather see this than… oh let’s just say houston, where I saw a paramedic yell at a homeless guy and told him if he wanted to go to the hospital he had to walk 2 miles that way (out of his district) and call 911 again.
St Pete, FL diverted money intended to hire more cops into hiring social workers. It has gone well. This was the latest article I could find on it.
https://www.tampabay.com/news/crime/2023/07/31/st-petersburg-social-workers-go-911-calls-whats-programs-future/
Yeah, it's definitely the fault of the people who are pushing for reform, and civilian oversight.
Staffing shortages couldn't possibly be because there are tons of cops who didn't want a bright light shined on their horrible, abusive behavior that they have been allowed to get away with, completely unchecked, since time immemorial....
What we need is to de-fang the police unions, force them into the same collective bargaining pools as the rest of the employees in their municipalities, like all the other EMS workers, and then make them accountable to the civilians they are policing so we find police who actually give a fuck about bettering their communities.
Like BLM? They turned out to be scam. I think most African Americans would agree that MORE police presence in their neighborhoods is needed, not less...just ask Oakland.
Another white guy deciding what African Americans want without bothering to ask them.
You really like collecting downvotes. You are very good at sharing bad opinions.
"You are very good at sharing opinions." FIFY
Hmm. No, I meant my comment to be subjective, as in, your opinions are bad within the scope of my viewpoint. I don't need it to be subjectively "fixed" to be a useless statement like how Twitter artists "fixed" animated characters. Hope you have a great day regardless.
It’s 2024. I can’t believe trumpers still don’t understand what that was all about.
I know what it was about...it was all talk, just like the BLM thing...nothing but people complaining about how horrible cops are because of a couple idiots....but please, by all means, keep telling everyone how they DON'T need to be funding the police that much...
Hilarious. This place needs some trolls to shake shit up.
Non-Liberal/democrat= Troll
I guess that's the way around here...just like Reddit.
Dude… you’re here purposeful disparaging a well known protest by calling it “nothing but people complaining.”
You don’t get it be the victim when you’re intention antagonizing people. You’re a fucking troll. Period. You don’t see people going to Tryth Social and whining about trumps Nazi rallies and then getting bent out of shape when they’re called out, do you?
Hey. I responded to you before this post was made with more information explaining more details about the movement. That comment now has a reply with a link to an article you might find informative. If you are actually open to more information, here's the link to the comment. You should for sure check the reply with the link.
https://lemmy.zip/comment/10083912
It's like inviting a bunch of drunk frat boys to a house party. They're just gonna show up break shit and rape people
I don't know why so many people think frat boys are just going to rape a bunch of people. Sure there are some.. but fraternities can also be pretty chill.
I imagine because there's thousands of date rapes reported (a small fraction of the total number since most are unreported) in universities connected with frat houses.
Sexual assault, abuse and deaths being the primary reasons a lot of fraternity houses are shutdown on campuses.
But that's just off the top of my head...
Warrior… hahahha wet paper towels with guns.. big fucking mouth in a group or when its a baby with a waterpistol but running in the other direction when it gets really serious. Kinda like trump running in a burning building to save the kiddies Hahahahahaha yeah, no.
Police violence is a non issue for people in power. It is extremely sad.
FTFY.
Fuck the police.
ACAB
Smoke more pork
We Don’t Need
WarriorCopsPolicing Campus ProtestsWell, it's not like they can call in the National Guard.
/s ;p
This is a reference that I'm afraid not enough people understand.
Then college administrations should stop calling them so you can blame the police.
Clearly we do. But the children here will never understand that.
Could you be misunderstanding the purpose of the police? Hint: they're not meant to protect the public
Last I checked, one of their core functions is to prevent trespassing and vandalism.
So, what do the Universities do? Just let them stay there as long as they want?
I mean, Lemmy lets you stay even though you are annoying as fuck, and nobody brutalizes you for sharing your viewpoints (psychotic as they may be). Perhaps you could put that shoe on the other foot if you could first pull it out of your mouth.
Is this a joke? I'm probably the ONLY person on this entire site that leans Right, and I've been called every name in the book for my opinions because they don't align with the Left....
Yeah but ya aint been banned dumbass. Ya can yap about whatever bullshit ya want without ya gettin banned. Freedom of speech in action fucker, ya can say whatever shit ya want and I can call ya a fucktard.
The ideal of freedom of speech is to say what ya want, that doesnt mean anyone has to agree, listen, or stay quiet. So keep on yapping and maybe youll make a good point eventually.
How many times have you been pepper sprayed or clubbed for sharing your stupid shitty opinions on Lemmy
Yes. Property is not as important as life.
But not other students lives right? I mean, the whole reason Colombia did what they did was because other students were afraid. More specifically, Jewish students. But, they don't matter, right?
Hi, just dropping by reading the comments. I believe Jewish students were a part of the protesters so you can't really go that route without adding a conditional on which Jewish students were in danger.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/columbia-hold-classes-virtually-jewish-leaders-warn-safety-palestinian-rcna148733
If I'm reading this right, the groups themselves were peaceful, but individuals which may have been just anti-Israel instead of pro-Palestine or outside agitators taking advantage of the situation stirred things up towards violence. The administration was ineffective in identifying these individuals or maintaining the overall peace, so instead members of the peaceful groups were arrested in order to shut the whole thing down.
So from this perspective, i can see why you would say that.
Something like this is always the line used when there's protest violence and you really want to support the cause and so feel a need to minimize or disregard any violence.
It is also a common method used to incite violence at peaceful protests in order to disperse them. This is seen as such more clearly when the individuals apprehended are not the ones causing violence and instead are part of what seems to be the leadership of said protests.
As long as they're peaceful, then pretty much, yes. A state university where the land is publicly owned (government "owned" property), it sounds like they were exercising their rights to assemble, speak, and petition the government...
But they weren't peaceful, that's the issue. The whole reason the university went in was because the protestors were putting other students at risk, more specifically, Jewish students.
From what I've heard since then, there was some vandalism / breaking and entering going on. I haven't heard about any violence directed at people, but if they're breaking into buildings, it is reasonable to stop them. If they were all just peacefully (meaning non-violent, not necessarily quiet) camped out on the quad, then I would say the govt had do right to remove them.
They weren't? Cool, show me some videos of protesters attacking or threatening Jewish students.