Though OnlyFans currently bans the use of AI, there are plenty of startups like Daniel’s that are developing the technology to replace flesh-and-blood chatters altogether. (Some claim they’re already routing around OnlyFans’ prohibition by having a lone human press Send on thousands of AI-generated messages.)
The most surreal moment came as I noticed the faint sounds of my daughter and her puppy watching Bluey together down the hall, right as a subscriber was waxing poetic about how much he wanted to eat a macaron from between my ass cheeks; the juxtaposition made me question the entire course of my life.
AI chatbots will never be able to give us this kind of self reflection.
When they can, humanity will truly be doomed.
But despite that mistake and a few other hiccups—my punctuation seemed unnatural because it was too accurate—Daniel offered me the job.
"Baby, I like talking to you and all...but I notice that you're using unspaced em-dashes as the alternate form for parenthetical phrases. No other girl I've ever met on OnlyFans has done that."
Oh shit.
The agency’s manager sent me a background memo about the woman I’d be playing, a purported 21-year-old university student blessed with physical proportions that are in vogue these days. To ensure that my performance was as authentic as possible, I spent two hours committing all of her details to memory: her favorite programming language
You want to avoid those awkward, immersion-breaking moments in the chat where you've got some snippets of code in language that the client happens to know and you don't, I imagine. The real pro route is to choose something adequately-esoteric that nobody is likely gonna call you out on it.
"When it's late at night, sometimes I like to relax with a little coding in REXX, though Prolog is good to mix things up."
I was to be paid 7 cents per line of dialog, with each dialog running for a minimum of 40 lines. For my first assignment, I had to compose 20 dialogs involving sex in public places—10 at the beach, five inside a car, and five in a forest or garden. There was a list of particular sex acts I had to include, as well as a stricture that I refrain from using emoji in more than 30 percent of lines. I had only 48 hours to complete the task.
Yeah, I can see why they want to get AI chatbots working for this.
Robert Carey, a Phoenix-based partner at the law firm Hagens Berman, which specializes in massive class actions, has a less charitable view of the matter. In the midst of my plunge into the chatting industry, I caught wind that he was looking for men to become plaintiffs in a class action against both OnlyFans and the agencies who hire chatters. A lead attorney in the lawsuits that revolutionized college sports by making it possible for student-athletes to get paid for name and image rights, Carey argues that the managers who run creators’ accounts are engaging in a type of bait and switch that fits the classic definition of fraud. “When you subscribe, the very first thing it says is, ‘Have a DM relationship,’” he said. “Well, that’s totally fraudulent … It’s an open secret they’re just defrauding people.”
Carey, who confided in me that his firm plans to file its lawsuit soon, contends that the chatting illusion can lead to serious harm for unwitting subscribers.
Hmm. I wonder how that works. Do they, in the discovery phase of this lawsuit, just require all of the service's chat logs to be handed over?
For my first assignment, I had to compose 20 dialogs involving sex in public places—10 at the beach, five inside a car, and five in a forest or garden. There was a list of particular sex acts I had to include, as well as a stricture that I refrain from using emoji in more than 30 percent of lines. I had only 48 hours to complete the task.
Man, the latest season of Taskmaster is crazy.
Rexx and Prolog, hot damn. Main thing though is to not date Java programmers. They will treat you like an object. :)
Java programmers are also functionally illiterate
Yay java I like Java
Not sure what the rest of your comment says
Have some beans 🫘 ☕
lemmy just share that with 20 other people with...
Hey man some people are into that, no need to kink shame.
I notice that you're using unspaced em-dashes as the alternate form for parenthetical phrases. No other girl I've ever met on OnlyFans has done that.
LMAO
I need to save me that!!
Rocko?!
Mrs Bighead?!
...
*hangs up the phone*
Wait, you mean to tell me that the beautiful woman that you are talking to online could actually be a marketing team that is creating the idealized image of said woman designed specifically as a commercial product, like some kind of movie about a plastic doll, Barbie, now available on Blu-ray and select streaming services?
Who would do such a thing?
But you’re still really Margot Robbie, right?
Of course I am.
Would esteemed Academy Award nominated character actress and producer Margot Robbie ever lie to you on the Internet?
No. No she would not.
Exactly.
I would know, because sometimes, I play her on TV.
Hello Academy Award winning character actress Margot Robbie.
Have you forgotten that you were not only nominated, but also won in the past?
I would have, if they named the movie "It's Hardin' Time" like I wanted, but nooo, "Nobody would get that reference, and what do you mean you want your character to 'Tonya Harding all over Nancy Kerrigan'?"
I could have sworn you received an oscar for your performance in the 2018 masterpiece "The Hardening", but I guess my memory has played me.
I consider this my "Mandela-Effect" moment.
I am willing to pay to unlock this content
...wait a minute, Margot Robbie's not a character actress! Or maybe she's like Brad Pitt, a character actress trapped in a lead's body.
Even in 80s movies there were parodies in this. Grannies sitting in a call center, knitting while answering phones with "Hello, I'm Bambi. My cup size is ..."
The agency’s manager sent me a background memo about the woman I’d be playing, a purported 21-year-old university student blessed with physical proportions that are in vogue these days.
In vogue these days? That just reminds me of how every generation thinks they invented sex. Or the Simpsons quote where Mr. Burns describes a past encounter: "We expressed our love physically, as was the style at the time."
Some body types are more...fashionable than others. For example, a woman who is deemed "chubby" now would've been a perfect 10 centuries ago.
Since beauty is subjective, tastes will be different from person to person, but certain types will dominate depending upon the culture at that time and place.
You don't have to go that far - if you look at 90's female models, or actresses that were considered "hot" at the time, they had a significantly different body type from today. They were a lot skinnier, there was more diet and less gym involved in the female bodies of the 90s and early 2000s.
Are we talking about high fashion models doing runways and magazine shoots for glossy fashion magazines, or are we talking about porn?
The bodies that you're talking about weren't exactly featured in the leading porn magazines or studio films, or even lad mags like Maxim/Stuff/FHM that didn't do full nudity.
For porn, erotica, and other risqué content, there's been significantly less shifts in trends and preferences.
I'm talking about TV ads, magazine covers. General models (not the super-skinny runway models which don't necessarily follow typical beauty standards) or porn (which follows its own set of trends I'd say, like over exaggerated bodies, breast implants...).
I don't know if it's the best example but I'm talking generally about the difference between people like Jennifer Aniston in 1997 vs Scarlett Johansson in 2020, for example.
Well this article and line of comments is specifically about porn and women as objects of sexual desire, that would cause people to want to chat with OnlyFans models. I don't think that's changed over the years, if you look at the body types that were featured in Playboy, Hustler, Perfect 10, or lad mags like Maxim, Stuff, FHM, or even things like Sports Illustrated's swimsuit issues. Pretty much across the board, from the 70's through the 2000's, these types of magazines featured young women of what I'm assuming are the "in vogue" proportions alluded to in the article. And I assume aren't that different from things like the Raquel Welch poster featured in the Shawshank Redemption.
Speaking of posters, the 90's included Baywatch and Pamela Anderson, who was on a lot more dorm room posters than Jennifer Aniston (who, by the way, wasn't that far off of what I'm describing as the standard across multiple decades).
Even if they are not the media image of beauty, I’ll tell you right now that big women are always in demand.
I think you've got that backwards. The article suggests that this person has a pronounced bottom.
Chubby 10 centuries ago? Mate, have you ever been to a museum? There were no chubby women apart from rich and obese aristocrats.
…yeah that’s kind of the literal point
Wow, this is so dystopian. Late stage capitalism at its finest.
Btw if you can't get past the pay wall, add "12ft.io/" in front of the URL and it should bypass.
The Firefox reader view also shows the full article.
Oh cool. I'm using Firefox and I didn't even realize that. Good tip 👌
First click the link. Then manually type 12ft.io/ in the URL bar, before the https://
I'm honestly not sure how it works because it doesn't work when you share the link, but if you type it manually it does. Works on all sorts of sites too, but some sites have already opted out. Honestly the Firefox reader view that the other guy posted is even easier and more useful, assuming you use Firefox.
Drag Queen Amanda Tori Meating has talked about her day job as a minimum wage Onlyfans writer. There's an entire industry involving talent agencies representing low wage gig workers that pretend to be the model you're paying $X per month to interact with.
And people told me I was crazy when I suggested that they did this in my chat group.
It hasn’t been a “secret” for a while now. Maybe we’re just starting to see the scale of it, but the people in your group should just stop and think about. 1 woman… hundreds of thousands of followers…
I guess at that point, she can just auction or raffle her precious time
You know this is quite obvious if you take two seconds to think about it. However, on the other hand, I don't blame people because it makes them feel less lonely.
This is paywalled so I can't read it and OF is not my preferred type of eroticism, so... there's just text chat as well? Like OF Discord or something? I thought people typed something in and the person on camera responded to what they read?
Firefox, Bypass Paywall Clean extension
Would unionizing solve the horrors of this job?
This seems like it is an interesting article. Unfortunately, I cannot read it due to a paywall. Oh well.
AI chatbots will never be able to give us this kind of self reflection.
When they can, humanity will truly be doomed.
"Baby, I like talking to you and all...but I notice that you're using unspaced em-dashes as the alternate form for parenthetical phrases. No other girl I've ever met on OnlyFans has done that."
Oh shit.
You want to avoid those awkward, immersion-breaking moments in the chat where you've got some snippets of code in language that the client happens to know and you don't, I imagine. The real pro route is to choose something adequately-esoteric that nobody is likely gonna call you out on it.
"When it's late at night, sometimes I like to relax with a little coding in REXX, though Prolog is good to mix things up."
Yeah, I can see why they want to get AI chatbots working for this.
Hmm. I wonder how that works. Do they, in the discovery phase of this lawsuit, just require all of the service's chat logs to be handed over?
Man, the latest season of Taskmaster is crazy.
Rexx and Prolog, hot damn. Main thing though is to not date Java programmers. They will treat you like an object. :)
Java programmers are also functionally illiterate
Yay java I like Java
Not sure what the rest of your comment says
Have some beans 🫘 ☕
lemmy just share that with 20 other people with...
wait a minute
red beans
Truly recursive beyond recursion
Hey man some people are into that, no need to kink shame.
LMAO
I need to save me that!!
Rocko?!
Mrs Bighead?!
...
*hangs up the phone*
Wait, you mean to tell me that the beautiful woman that you are talking to online could actually be a marketing team that is creating the idealized image of said woman designed specifically as a commercial product, like some kind of movie about a plastic doll, Barbie, now available on Blu-ray and select streaming services?
Who would do such a thing?
But you’re still really Margot Robbie, right?
Of course I am.
Would esteemed Academy Award nominated character actress and producer Margot Robbie ever lie to you on the Internet?
No. No she would not.
Exactly.
I would know, because sometimes, I play her on TV.
Hello Academy Award winning character actress Margot Robbie.
Have you forgotten that you were not only nominated, but also won in the past?
I would have, if they named the movie "It's Hardin' Time" like I wanted, but nooo, "Nobody would get that reference, and what do you mean you want your character to 'Tonya Harding all over Nancy Kerrigan'?"
I could have sworn you received an oscar for your performance in the 2018 masterpiece "The Hardening", but I guess my memory has played me.
I consider this my "Mandela-Effect" moment.
I am willing to pay to unlock this content
...wait a minute, Margot Robbie's not a character actress! Or maybe she's like Brad Pitt, a character actress trapped in a lead's body.
Even in 80s movies there were parodies in this. Grannies sitting in a call center, knitting while answering phones with "Hello, I'm Bambi. My cup size is ..."
That is what I call dedication
But still not dedicated enough to get a Best Actress Oscar nomination this year...
In vogue these days? That just reminds me of how every generation thinks they invented sex. Or the Simpsons quote where Mr. Burns describes a past encounter: "We expressed our love physically, as was the style at the time."
Some body types are more...fashionable than others. For example, a woman who is deemed "chubby" now would've been a perfect 10 centuries ago.
Since beauty is subjective, tastes will be different from person to person, but certain types will dominate depending upon the culture at that time and place.
You don't have to go that far - if you look at 90's female models, or actresses that were considered "hot" at the time, they had a significantly different body type from today. They were a lot skinnier, there was more diet and less gym involved in the female bodies of the 90s and early 2000s.
Are we talking about high fashion models doing runways and magazine shoots for glossy fashion magazines, or are we talking about porn?
The bodies that you're talking about weren't exactly featured in the leading porn magazines or studio films, or even lad mags like Maxim/Stuff/FHM that didn't do full nudity.
For porn, erotica, and other risqué content, there's been significantly less shifts in trends and preferences.
I'm talking about TV ads, magazine covers. General models (not the super-skinny runway models which don't necessarily follow typical beauty standards) or porn (which follows its own set of trends I'd say, like over exaggerated bodies, breast implants...).
I don't know if it's the best example but I'm talking generally about the difference between people like Jennifer Aniston in 1997 vs Scarlett Johansson in 2020, for example.
Well this article and line of comments is specifically about porn and women as objects of sexual desire, that would cause people to want to chat with OnlyFans models. I don't think that's changed over the years, if you look at the body types that were featured in Playboy, Hustler, Perfect 10, or lad mags like Maxim, Stuff, FHM, or even things like Sports Illustrated's swimsuit issues. Pretty much across the board, from the 70's through the 2000's, these types of magazines featured young women of what I'm assuming are the "in vogue" proportions alluded to in the article. And I assume aren't that different from things like the Raquel Welch poster featured in the Shawshank Redemption.
Speaking of posters, the 90's included Baywatch and Pamela Anderson, who was on a lot more dorm room posters than Jennifer Aniston (who, by the way, wasn't that far off of what I'm describing as the standard across multiple decades).
Even if they are not the media image of beauty, I’ll tell you right now that big women are always in demand.
I think you've got that backwards. The article suggests that this person has a pronounced bottom.
Chubby 10 centuries ago? Mate, have you ever been to a museum? There were no chubby women apart from rich and obese aristocrats.
…yeah that’s kind of the literal point
Wow, this is so dystopian. Late stage capitalism at its finest.
Btw if you can't get past the pay wall, add "12ft.io/" in front of the URL and it should bypass.
The Firefox reader view also shows the full article.
Oh cool. I'm using Firefox and I didn't even realize that. Good tip 👌
https://12ft.io/www.wired.com/story/i-went-undercover-secret-onlyfans-chatter-wasnt-pretty/. Didn't work
First click the link. Then manually type 12ft.io/ in the URL bar, before the https://
I'm honestly not sure how it works because it doesn't work when you share the link, but if you type it manually it does. Works on all sorts of sites too, but some sites have already opted out. Honestly the Firefox reader view that the other guy posted is even easier and more useful, assuming you use Firefox.
Drag Queen Amanda Tori Meating has talked about her day job as a minimum wage Onlyfans writer. There's an entire industry involving talent agencies representing low wage gig workers that pretend to be the model you're paying $X per month to interact with.
And people told me I was crazy when I suggested that they did this in my chat group.
It hasn’t been a “secret” for a while now. Maybe we’re just starting to see the scale of it, but the people in your group should just stop and think about. 1 woman… hundreds of thousands of followers…
I guess at that point, she can just auction or raffle her precious time
You know this is quite obvious if you take two seconds to think about it. However, on the other hand, I don't blame people because it makes them feel less lonely.
This is paywalled so I can't read it and OF is not my preferred type of eroticism, so... there's just text chat as well? Like OF Discord or something? I thought people typed something in and the person on camera responded to what they read?
Firefox, Bypass Paywall Clean extension
Would unionizing solve the horrors of this job?
This seems like it is an interesting article. Unfortunately, I cannot read it due to a paywall. Oh well.
Bypass Paywall extension on Firefox
Here you go
https://pastbin.cc/?fe5f15ef67ea47d5#96baus1xH3CtxV9SyAK3BJzsZk4eR8M7NqbNYQbkKTLc