Well, you have to explore other languages. As Linus Torvalds once famously said:
There aren't enough swear-words in the English language, so now I'll have to call you perkeleen vittupää just to express my disgust and
frustration with this crap.
Pfft amateur 😂
Never been to Scotland then
Scots aint technically english, its a cousin language or atleast the thicker dialects are.
Nyt on kunnollista
Marvelous. Contagious.
Btw seems like we need to start nationalizing shit. Can't have billionaires vetoing military decisions.
You could even say it's an infringement on democracy, since Elon isn't an elected leader.
Me too. Just for a few minutes.
I'm very close talker.
It's time to nationalize Starlink & SpaceX.
fuck it, take Tesla too while we're at it
communism intensifies
It needs to. What we've been doing sure isn't working.
Well, seems to work at least better than the alternatives that have been tried thus far. And, well, we're running out of viable alternatives to try...
We didn't try a social democracy with worker owned coops / democratized workplaces yet.
The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter, as said by someone but who probably wasn't Winston Churchill. Dunno why it'd be any different within a workplace versus politics. (Of course there's also the idea that democracy is the worst except for all the others, which... I suppose. It's certainly better than what the fascists and the tankies come up with although that's not saying much.)
Also, this has certainly been tried although admittedly not in a holistic manner. The Nordic model is basically this blended with more traditional ownership structures. A mixture of the welfare state providing major services with privately owned enterprises alongside co-ops and "democratised workplaces." And... it's fine. Has some nice qualities when compared with contemporary socio-economic structures but the political process can muddy the waters and make things inefficient through perverse incentives. Not that similar perverse incentives don't exist elsewhere, but y'know...
It's like you said, the best option out of a bunch of flawed ones. We've not found the "perfect" governing system yet, but here in the Netherlands things are quite good. We're slow to change, but when we do it often has quite good, long lasting impacts.
In my personal opinion our system is better than most.
Hybridised capitalism with socialist elements has been so more successful than socialism alone it's not even funny.
People who keep saying "capitalism isn't working" have only ever learned about socialism through memes.
Look at how many people have taken from extreme poverty. Just look at that.
you spelled defense in the national interest incorrectly, common mistake
It's time to nationalize Starlink & SpaceX.
I really don't know what that would actually accomplish. How would any government benefit from doing that kind of a move, especially when the reason seems to just be that Elon is a douche, and that doesn't seem like a valid reason to do such things. Hell, even if we were to count this kind of blatant aiding of an enemy country as treason, I doubt this would be an appropriate response.
If anything, it might just set a dangerous precedent and in general be against the very same liberal values which are exactly why we're helping Ukraine against the foreign imperial occupier. Arbitrary nationalisation of the assets of politically inconvenient people is the kind of stuff that an autocratic regime such as the Russian Federation under Vova would do. And that's the kind of thing it actually does do, defenestration of political rivals is a convenient way to accomplish many goals, after all.
Doesn't the United States already have military communication satellites? If they wanted to give network connectivity to Ukranian drones, I'm pretty sure they could have done so as well.
bandwidth/latency might be an issue, but I'm not sure since I'm not an expert
I think it probably has more to do with not wanting to escalate to a direct war against Russia or give them a reason to try to shoot down satellites.
Nice to see that people are finally seeing through the bullshit, and that Elon is an asshole scammer. I've been saying this for years now and I'm always told he's the next coming of Chris or something. He deserves to rot in a jail cel
hey chris is pretty cool! he brought chips and salsa last time
This is nothing, wait until megacorps have private armies matching national ones like the Hanseatic league
You mean like the East India Company which led the British colonization of India and lasted longer than the USA has been in existence (so far)?
Britain got in early on cyberpunk huh
Yeah that's a great example!
like Wagner?
like wagner.
WTF is scuppering?
To scupper something is to ruin it, prevent it, etc.
"We wanted to have a BBQ, but the rain's scuppered that!"
Never thought about it before. Now it looks weird written down 😄
"Scupper - an opening cut through the bulwarks of a ship so that water falling on deck may flow overboard"
like so much other bullshit, this comes from the navy. can't just say tossed overboard, nope, gotta have a whole new nomenclature regarding gutters on gunwales to say the same damned thing as landlubbers
Surely "tossed overboard" is also a nautical phrase?
And it doesn't mean the same as scupper anyway.
yarrrrrrrrr
Thanks. I tried to look it up and all I found was something about a hole in a ship.
Well that's where it originated from. Scuppers on ships were the deck drains that let water that came over the railings drain back out.
A ship was deemed scuppered when it was so low in the water that water could now enter through the scuppers, which is a bit of a point of no return in sinking a ship. No bailing or pumping will help at that point.
It's all well and good to talk about doing this, but when are we actually going to do it? I feel our window of opportunity to change society for the better is closing quickly.
The thing that makes this even more perverse is that Musk doesn't have the power to stop Russians from attacking anywhere.
So just what the fuck does he think he's going to achieve?
No more government funding for Musk.
I kinda hope Anonymous might take a shot at Elon at some point. They are pro-Ukraine.
I mean we already have a word to describe an absolutely insane, self absorbed, narcissistic, selfish, vindictive, asshat: it's Elon.
:P
Nazi is all encompassing, appropriate, and balls on accurate
At this point, there's quite a few people in the US I seriosuly think we should habe a talking with.
I usually only say this in person, but I'm constantly surprised that no one's tried to assassinate Elon Musk and his ilk.
You know how sometimes after you're done pooping and you stand up to flush and you accidentally knock your cock against the front of the seat and then you're so mortified that your ballsack shrivels up and retreats into your taint?
That's what Elon Musk is. He's a retreated ballsack. A real taint seeker.
Elon The Musky Husky, American Traitor
Isn't he South African?
Indeed, but I believe he is also an American citizen
May be, idk
At this point I think he is just an International Scumbag. We should just banish him from all countries and let him live in space with his satellites. Forcefully launched on one of his rockets.
I think a picture of my asshole will suffice.
If you didn’t want Elon to make these sorts of decisions then you shouldn’t have voted with your wallets to make him the richest person in the world. If you don’t like the way he’s using his OWN space satellite company to aid or not aid a country at war, then how about start YOUR own space satellite company to compete with him? Then you can let the Ukraine use your satellites to sink the Russian navy free of charge if you’re so magnanimous.
Not all of us were born with the emerald spoon in mouth he was. Its not as simple as Elon Musk is the richest person on earth because everyone thought his products were good and cool, or so simple as anyone with a dream can just go out and found a satellite company
Don't feed the trolls...
I realized what I'd done when I got a reply
Not everyone is BORN with an emerald spoon but with a little gumption and a few emeralds, anybody can make their own.
We're not the ones who made him what he is. Most of his money came from his family's emerald mines in Africa. Correction: The emerald mine is just what made him rich in the first place.
Most of the money came from government either in subsidies, or defense contracts for Starlink; and tesla's inflated stock that is not based in reality.
Most of the money came from goverment either in subsidies, or defense contracts for starlink, and tesla's inflated stock that is not based in reality.
Of course! You're completely right. The emerald mine was what got him started. My mistake.
NP, he wouldn't have never gotten started with his bullshit without that money, so it is valid to point that out.
Elon?
This is lemmy. That's why you are getting downvoted.
Well, you have to explore other languages. As Linus Torvalds once famously said:
Pfft amateur 😂
Never been to Scotland then
Scots aint technically english, its a cousin language or atleast the thicker dialects are.
Nyt on kunnollista
Marvelous. Contagious.
Btw seems like we need to start nationalizing shit. Can't have billionaires vetoing military decisions.
You could even say it's an infringement on democracy, since Elon isn't an elected leader.
Me too. Just for a few minutes.
I'm very close talker.
It's time to nationalize Starlink & SpaceX.
fuck it, take Tesla too while we're at it
communism intensifies
It needs to. What we've been doing sure isn't working.
Well, seems to work at least better than the alternatives that have been tried thus far. And, well, we're running out of viable alternatives to try...
We didn't try a social democracy with worker owned coops / democratized workplaces yet.
The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter, as said by someone but who probably wasn't Winston Churchill. Dunno why it'd be any different within a workplace versus politics. (Of course there's also the idea that democracy is the worst except for all the others, which... I suppose. It's certainly better than what the fascists and the tankies come up with although that's not saying much.)
Also, this has certainly been tried although admittedly not in a holistic manner. The Nordic model is basically this blended with more traditional ownership structures. A mixture of the welfare state providing major services with privately owned enterprises alongside co-ops and "democratised workplaces." And... it's fine. Has some nice qualities when compared with contemporary socio-economic structures but the political process can muddy the waters and make things inefficient through perverse incentives. Not that similar perverse incentives don't exist elsewhere, but y'know...
It's like you said, the best option out of a bunch of flawed ones. We've not found the "perfect" governing system yet, but here in the Netherlands things are quite good. We're slow to change, but when we do it often has quite good, long lasting impacts. In my personal opinion our system is better than most.
Hybridised capitalism with socialist elements has been so more successful than socialism alone it's not even funny.
People who keep saying "capitalism isn't working" have only ever learned about socialism through memes.
Look at how many people have taken from extreme poverty. Just look at that.
you spelled defense in the national interest incorrectly, common mistake
I really don't know what that would actually accomplish. How would any government benefit from doing that kind of a move, especially when the reason seems to just be that Elon is a douche, and that doesn't seem like a valid reason to do such things. Hell, even if we were to count this kind of blatant aiding of an enemy country as treason, I doubt this would be an appropriate response.
If anything, it might just set a dangerous precedent and in general be against the very same liberal values which are exactly why we're helping Ukraine against the foreign imperial occupier. Arbitrary nationalisation of the assets of politically inconvenient people is the kind of stuff that an autocratic regime such as the Russian Federation under Vova would do. And that's the kind of thing it actually does do, defenestration of political rivals is a convenient way to accomplish many goals, after all.
Doesn't the United States already have military communication satellites? If they wanted to give network connectivity to Ukranian drones, I'm pretty sure they could have done so as well.
bandwidth/latency might be an issue, but I'm not sure since I'm not an expert
I think it probably has more to do with not wanting to escalate to a direct war against Russia or give them a reason to try to shoot down satellites.
Nice to see that people are finally seeing through the bullshit, and that Elon is an asshole scammer. I've been saying this for years now and I'm always told he's the next coming of Chris or something. He deserves to rot in a jail cel
hey chris is pretty cool! he brought chips and salsa last time
This is nothing, wait until megacorps have private armies matching national ones like the Hanseatic league
You mean like the East India Company which led the British colonization of India and lasted longer than the USA has been in existence (so far)?
Britain got in early on cyberpunk huh
Yeah that's a great example!
like Wagner?
like wagner.
WTF is scuppering?
To scupper something is to ruin it, prevent it, etc.
"We wanted to have a BBQ, but the rain's scuppered that!"
Never thought about it before. Now it looks weird written down 😄
"Scupper - an opening cut through the bulwarks of a ship so that water falling on deck may flow overboard"
like so much other bullshit, this comes from the navy. can't just say tossed overboard, nope, gotta have a whole new nomenclature regarding gutters on gunwales to say the same damned thing as landlubbers
Surely "tossed overboard" is also a nautical phrase?
And it doesn't mean the same as scupper anyway.
yarrrrrrrrr
Thanks. I tried to look it up and all I found was something about a hole in a ship.
Well that's where it originated from. Scuppers on ships were the deck drains that let water that came over the railings drain back out.
A ship was deemed scuppered when it was so low in the water that water could now enter through the scuppers, which is a bit of a point of no return in sinking a ship. No bailing or pumping will help at that point.
!todayilearned@lemmy.ml
It's all well and good to talk about doing this, but when are we actually going to do it? I feel our window of opportunity to change society for the better is closing quickly.
The thing that makes this even more perverse is that Musk doesn't have the power to stop Russians from attacking anywhere.
So just what the fuck does he think he's going to achieve?
No more government funding for Musk.
I kinda hope Anonymous might take a shot at Elon at some point. They are pro-Ukraine.
I mean we already have a word to describe an absolutely insane, self absorbed, narcissistic, selfish, vindictive, asshat: it's Elon.
:P
Nazi is all encompassing, appropriate, and balls on accurate
At this point, there's quite a few people in the US I seriosuly think we should habe a talking with.
I usually only say this in person, but I'm constantly surprised that no one's tried to assassinate Elon Musk and his ilk.
You know how sometimes after you're done pooping and you stand up to flush and you accidentally knock your cock against the front of the seat and then you're so mortified that your ballsack shrivels up and retreats into your taint?
That's what Elon Musk is. He's a retreated ballsack. A real taint seeker.
Elon The Musky Husky, American Traitor
Isn't he South African?
Indeed, but I believe he is also an American citizen
May be, idk
At this point I think he is just an International Scumbag. We should just banish him from all countries and let him live in space with his satellites. Forcefully launched on one of his rockets.
I think a picture of my asshole will suffice.
If you didn’t want Elon to make these sorts of decisions then you shouldn’t have voted with your wallets to make him the richest person in the world. If you don’t like the way he’s using his OWN space satellite company to aid or not aid a country at war, then how about start YOUR own space satellite company to compete with him? Then you can let the Ukraine use your satellites to sink the Russian navy free of charge if you’re so magnanimous.
Not all of us were born with the emerald spoon in mouth he was. Its not as simple as Elon Musk is the richest person on earth because everyone thought his products were good and cool, or so simple as anyone with a dream can just go out and found a satellite company
Don't feed the trolls...
I realized what I'd done when I got a reply
Not everyone is BORN with an emerald spoon but with a little gumption and a few emeralds, anybody can make their own.
We're not the ones who made him what he is.
Most of his money came from his family's emerald mines in Africa.Correction: The emerald mine is just what made him rich in the first place.Most of the money came from goverment either in subsidies, or defense contracts for starlink, and tesla's inflated stock that is not based in reality.
Of course! You're completely right. The emerald mine was what got him started. My mistake.
NP, he wouldn't have never gotten started with his bullshit without that money, so it is valid to point that out.
Elon?
This is lemmy. That's why you are getting downvoted.