Are there any people who hates music?

kratoz29@lemm.ee to No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world – 83 points –

I'm not saying particular genres, we all have our less desired musical genres, I mean music in general.

When I was a child I was very confident to say that I hated music, all kinds, and my cousin used to say that was not possible.

Turns out he was right, and I only hated the teenage music my sister from the 90s used to listen to.

Secretly I enjoyed soundtracks and OSTs from several media, such as animes (digimon openings and battle themes for example) and some TV shows or even videogames.

Then my taste "evolved" and pretty much stayed at rock, heavy metal and alike.

So that little memory lane inspired me to ask about this.

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"Amusia" is apparently a thing, which would be the inability to feel patterns in pitch, beat and/or rhythm in music, so I can definitely see those people not enjoying music so much. I can't relate at all, but I guess I can't exactly relate to what it's like to be blind either...

Now that we are talking about disabilities... I didn't even consider deaf people... Perhaps some deaf people are not capable of liking music? (I suppose there are levels of deaf, as blind people do).

Deaf people can still feel vibrations from music, and in my experience tend to enjoy that quite a lot

I had a teacher once who used to work at a school for the deaf and he told us about their school dances. Apparently they would crank the bass way up so everyone could feel the vibrations, and apparently a lot of the kids would carry balloons around because you can really feel it in the balloons, it actually sounded like a pretty cool experience

Well, that doesn't stop one from liking music, no? Music has such a wide range, there is music without rhythm/beat (or a very different understanding of the concept of "rhythm"), without melody or patterns in general. I think this just narrows down your choice, but doesn't make you hate music.

Note that I'm using these terms in their largest, most generic sense. Melody as elements of pitch with some kind of temporal progression. Beat as in a regular pulse around which sounds are organized. Rhythm as a form of temporal repetition or pattern (you can have rhythm without a beat). As far as I know, they're pretty much the fundamental differentiating elements versus what's just called noise.

I know there are types of music that stretches the limits of what most consider music, but I'm trying very hard to think about a single thing we'd call music that doesn't have at least one of those elements, and I just can't. Maybe you could come up with some examples, cause I really can't haha. I was thinking of things like Perendecki's Threnody, but it definitely has melodic elements, despite being mostly extremely ambiant and atonal/dissonant. John Cage's Prepared Piano stuff is basically all rhythm. Most ambiant music is extremely melodic.

Music was much better when I was younger and more emotionally vulnerable.

I also like music from before my time, when they used to let ugly people make it.

It's complicated.

Maybe you are just bad at finding new music you like. There's an insane amount out there.

Reconsider that statement. Outside of top40 there's no shortage of unattractive artists making amazing music. Music has always ranged from bad to good and ugly to attractive in about the same proportion

I also like music from before my time, when they used to let ugly people make it.

Are you implying only cute or handsome people do "music" nowadays? Because that is not true at all.

Um... You know there's millions of indie artists who are ugly making just what you are looking for, right? I listen to music all day, hardly any of it mainstream. Most of the really popular stuff is worse than a lot of the independent or small label stuff you'll find.

"when they used to let ugly people make it" funny comment, sad but true.

Funny comment but completely untrue, goddamn lol

Listen beyond what top40 stations play for you.

Bruh why anyone bothers with top 40 when you can find whatever the hell you want out of millions of artists on the internet. It's not even overwhelming there's tools that will pick out stuff for you based on criteria you choose. Really just need to find one or two less known artists you like and then from there look at other offerings from their labels, bands they tour with, etc. It all snowballs. So much great music to be found.

Because people are under the false assumption that getting into music is a passive activity. It's like saying food is boring because all they eat is microwave dinners... Actually it's worse than that because hearing new music is FREE

I don't care if people only listen to top40 but to act like that's the ONLY music out there is just stupid

Dude the internet exists. You’re on it now. It’s not hard to find shit you enjoy if you put some time into it. Find a local scene. Enjoy music.

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I know people who hate some music and are apathetic at best to all the rest, but I feel like theres enough variety that no one would hate all music.

I feel like my dad would be the closest person to hating music. I absolutely love music, so did my mom. My sister was into music when she was a teen and then it was more like: yeah i like when there is some music. I asked my dad once if he doesn't like any music. He didn't answer but 3 days later he said he liked the beach boys. He has no album or anything from the beach boys. I once bought him some Mozart album, because he said he liked Mozart. They are still sealed 10 years later. Every time we exchange cars, the radio of his car is just shut off. So i genuinely believe that my dad doesn't actually like music at all.

There is a condition called Misophonia which literally makes even the most pleasant music sound like silverware in a garbage disposal. I remember finding out about it on Reddit.

Since I watched Guardians of the Galaxy 2 recently it reminds me of Drax recounting how he met is wife: "When I met my sweet Evette (?) she wouldn't dance at all. The most melodic song would come on and she wouldn't even tap her foot. She wouldn't move a muscle. Some people would think she was dead. It was so beautiful."

Streaming services have been a life changer for me. Previously I rarely listened to music because radio was too much blather and I never got my music collection to the point of being convenient. However since I started subscribing to a streaming service, I listen constantly, to music from various genres and time periods, and have rediscovered music I like that had previously been too much hassle.

Most importantly I discovered the genre that most spoke to me was one that I rarely heard in my region, or among people I knew

I used to not like music for a long time because my family was weirdly annoying about music. They made it uncomfortable to want to listen to it, making me feel embarrassed about it.

I know someone that doesn't like music, it's just overwhelming noise to them.

I don't think it's really possible to simply hate music. You might hate songs, or bands, or genres or styles; and those may be extremely hard to get away from making it seem like you hate all music. But human brains generally like musical form to some degree. It helps in learning and memorization and all sorts of other things.

It is,Misophonia is where you hate certain sounds.

I have that for the bathroom fan. It's the same resonant pitch as my left sinus. Gives me migraines.

For me, it's the sound of Styrofoam squeaking, dogs barking incessantly, and nails on a chalkboard (I think that's a lot of people though).

I don't hate music, I also don't like music. I am indifferent to music. I don't seek it out at all, nor do I ever listen to it on my own.

Do songs ever get stuck in your head? Did you ever go to gigs when you were younger? What's your family's relationship with music like?

Not hate per se, but my grandpa was very uncomfortable around any kind of "persistent noise", be it too many people talking at once (he usually spent the most part of family reunions in the garage, tinkering with his gadgets), loud machines running for a long time (he'd rather walk a few miles than sit in a car for longer than five minutes) ... or music. Then again he was a German WWII veteran who never went to therapy, so who knows what kind of memories he buried deep down ... he never talked about it.

So ... not exactly "hating all music" in the actual sense but I think he had a good reason to avoid it nonetheless.

When I was young, I hated any music with vocals. I thought, just replace that vocalist with a saxophone or trumpet, and it'd be a better song.

I don't feel that way anymore.

I'm curious to see if you find anyone. I do know there are some kids who are very sensitive to the moods of music and cry for Happy Birthday, for example, because it's in a minor key. I can see how it could almost be like someone is whining at you or trying to get you hyped up and you just want to be with your own thoughts?

I live with a guy that seems to hate music. Haven't actually asked him about it because he just yells at the TV or radio if they have music on.

Huh, that must be... Weird? Imagine getting mad at all TV jingles 😂

I get a bit agitated at TV jingles but thats just because i hate advertisements in general

He just switches channel and screams about what he wants to watch not being on.

I hope this is a joke where you’re calling your two year old child “a guy you live with”.

No, it's very much a grown man with an awful disposition. (It's probably more of an undiagnosed condition.)

I used to regularly listen to music a few years ago, this was something I was able to really enjoy no matter the situation. But then I got depressed and I just can’t anymore.

Spotify will suggest me a song and I’ll be like « hey I kinda like this one ». I’ll listen to it the next day and it’ll feel super repetitive, as if I had listened to it hundreds of times already and it got annoying.

Thankfully it doesn’t happen with situational music like in games and movies, so I can still enjoy that. I’m also still able to listen to the songs I really loved before I got depressed (I don’t do it much though, don’t want them to get repetitive too). New music tho… I can’t :(

This has been happening to me recently. It's like my patience for a piece of music has become wire thin. I'll flick from song to song rejecting everything before hearing something I think I might like and I do like it, for about 30s then suddenly I start to feel really irritated by it and bored and impatient like I want them to get to the point, but it doesn't make sense because there's not really going to be somewhere the music is necessarily arriving at, you're supposed to be enjoying the whole thing. I don't know what's happened to me. Hope it's temporary.

Yeah, that’s exactly how I feel too!

Did you suffer some emotional trauma or something similar recently? It’s been 5 years for me, I don’t have much hope of it getting better anymore honestly, at least not if I don’t get better

Nah much more mundane. It seems to have coincided with me taking on a job where I'm dealing with lots of little problems popping up like wildfire that I have to rapidly respond to only for my efforts to be undone by a new disaster.

I've actually been doing pretty well at it, but it seems to have put me in a kind of "yeh yeh yeh whatever let's just hurry up" state of mind that is somehow leaching in to my leisure habits. It's like I'm trying to wrestle satisfaction out of the things I enjoy rather than just enjoying and appreciating doing the things themselves. Like, "I need to get X amount of pleasure units out of this thing before I have to go back to work and I just want to get it now in case something comes up, so can't we just skip to the part where I've already felt satisfied by hearing the song without having to actually sit around listening to it?"

Right I see. Do you intend to keep that job a long time? If it seems to change you that much, it doesn’t seem like such a great idea :(

It was supposed to be a short engagement that dragged on for some 2 to 3 times the expected duration. The last day, (one of several supposed last days should be this coming Monday).

I'm not too concerned about the impacts on my well being. If I was doing this for what I expected to be years I'd basically be demanding a lot of changes and I'd be personally taking on a lot of less of the burden of getting the ailing project over the line but given the expected short duration I've just been trying very hard to help get things underway and moving and also for the more selfish reason of kind of wanting a rest now.

I do that when I'm looking for music that fits my mood, for me music is a functional thing so there is a point and a destination so to speak.

Maybe you just need to find the right thing for the moment.

I definitely met people who don’t care about music. And would prefer silence than music on the radio. I don’t believe they hate music in general.

I’m at an age where I’m just not as passionate about music as I was. Not saying only young people enjoy music. I’m just currently not inspired by it and hope to be so again soon.

100% agree, I love music and have been in the past passionate. I have gigs of old MP3's, tapes stacked in boxes and soft folders full of CD's. In my house I have easily more than a thousand vinyl records just sitting in their sleeves but today's music just doesn't do it for me. I think good music is out there to discover but it's just harder to find those gems these days. I blame many things but that's probably for another discussion, maybe I'm just getting old to be honest.

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I worked with a rich ranch girl at a Restaurant once, she was 17 maybe just doing the summer serving with us, and I was playing music and taking requests and I asked her what she liked and she said "none of it I hate Music." I said "what do you do in the car?" she said "listen to talk radio or podcasts" and this just... Baffled me. She was not good at her job but after she told me that I couldn't help but feel a bit bad for her.

Some islamic fundamentalists introduced wide-ranging bans on music, for example Afghanistan under taliban rule or Iran for few initial years under Khomeini, so yes they probably have some strong opinions

I love certain music but find it terribly distracting to the point that I rarely listen.

I hate 100% of modern music and about 90% of old music.

My playlist is like:

  • Mozart
  • Show Must Go On by Queen
  • Moscau (German version) by Gengis Chan
  • Hall of the Mountain King

Beatles and Pink Floyed are tolerateable.

And I apologize for anything I misspelled anywhere above.

What specifically about music is it that you don't like? And what is it specifically about those particular songs that makes you like them?

Well, I tend to see music as an instrument that allows you to feel certain feelings. If the music gives off negative vibes, it probably means the person dislikes it.

Somebody must have beat our guy with a radio while top 40 music was blasting from it

I think they are the only ones where both the music and the lyrics are good. Good music actually fits well with the song and actually changes as the song moves along, and good lyrics (in my opinion) should describe a moment in time rather than a whole story.

There are many other songs that fit this category, but I am really picky about it and some are to boring and others are just not the type of vibe I like.

Mozart (or other classical) is for the cases where I had enough of songs and just want some music in my ears.

Mountain King beats any movie action music, not to practical when just listing to, but really good for imagination.

Well, you still like music then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

For many people out there, the music preferences I have are as good as none. My choice can't be described by a particular category and is completely cherry picked. There isn't much correlation between the band or the time the song was written and whether I like it.

You know nothing of modern music if that's your opinion lol

You think people stopped composing music like that? No, other genres just became more popular. Your playlist is just the songs that survived the test of time. There's artists making pretty much every type of music right now.

"Modern" isn't a genre

Those artists are close to impossible to find. If you know a website where you can actually get some good songs out of your already existing playist please tell me.

SoundCloud and Bandcamp is where it's at. Pretty much all I listen to. When I find an artist, I follow them and see what they're listening to. I admittedly have been doing this for over a decade so I've got a curated feed that would be hard to replicate. Then there's whole artist "crews" like Vulfpek who have solo projects and collaborate with a million other similar artists.

People often think of listening to music as a secondary activity but really it's a hobby. There's just.... So much music out there. Once you start to narrow down the genres you really like, you get a better understanding of what you look for.

Another tip when you find a new release you really like...Google em. There's still a ton of music blogs and if you find one talking about someone you like, you'll likely find even more. It's a compounding effect, too

Give me a couple of your favorite artists/songs and tell me specifically what you like about them and I'll see if I can get you started. Feel free to tell me some aspects you *don't" like in music, too

People are allowed to like whatever they want to. If you don't like my playlist, I'll put on headphones.

Huh okay? But that was not the point of my rambling 😅