Sexualized workplaces are perfectly acceptable if basic rules of consent are followed.
The problem with Hooters, regardless of things like the innate exploitation of capitalist systems and tip based services, is that we all know neither managers or customers were all that down with consent.
Also, shit food and beer pretending to not be fell out of fashion. See TGI Fridays, Chili's, Outback, etc. None of them are doing well even though they were killing it in the 90's and 2Ks.
You used to be able to say you were going to hooters for the wings, it was still. fucking lie but it was plausible.
Yeah, I was gonna say the only time I've eaten there the food was trash, but looks like everybody in the comments agrees. Even Outback has way better food (not the steak tho, it's bad).
Brazil itself if keeping Outback lights on. They fucking love it.
When I lived near one I would get the wings delivered by Doordash. I liked them though they cost more than they were worth
Growing up and never going there I always thought Hooters waitresses were topless. When I found out they weren’t, the whole thing actually sounded more pervy to me.
Strip clubs seem less demeaning to me lol. Hooters is basically if you took sexual harassment in the workplace and made it your gimmick.
Yeah, pretty much it's "let's train people to think of waitresses as sex objects and stare at their tits"
Down with regular Hooters.
Up with Femboy Hooters.
I'm partial to AroAce Shoney's, myself.
My mind drifted towards those posts about equality in fantasy armour, with either everyone slutty, or everyone covered with an inordinate amount of steel plate.
This leads inescapably to an image of a Shoney's staffed entirely with metal clad medieval knights of indeterminate gender.
Its such a weird vibe. I feel less sleazy eating at a strip club.
And now you've got places like Trim Peaks, which is basically Hooters minus the class.
I've only been to a Hooters once. I was with a big group and they all wanted to go. Women in skimpy outfits do nothing for me (if I want to be titillated, I'll look at porn), so I wasn't really interested, but I went.
I ordered a chicken breast sandwich.
I have no idea how you ruin something as simple as a chicken breast sandwich, but they did it.
If you can't even cook basic food and your only draw is 'we are a strip club except without the stripping,' why does anyone want to go?
The only time I ever considered going to a Hooter's was when I was dating a lesbian. It hits different when your partner also likes boobs as much as you lol.
Hooters is an artifact of the 1960s‐1970s sexual revolution, before which we had very few opportunities to see bodies other than those we married or were related to. Hence we had the R-rated movie golden age in which naked boobs appeared at least once in a 90s minute run, And two or three peek-a-boo flashes of different boobs was good value. Hence the breast-count included in Joe-Bob Briggs' drive-in cinema reviews.
So boomers and their parents (greatests?) got way more buzz from busty, tightly-clad waitresses serving greasy food than us younguns. Even I (GenX) had pirated Playboy channel before USENET supplied me with all the human specimens I could ever want. As a young adult I didn't get the point, and post #MeToo, with awareness that Hooters is as exploitative as the rest of the hospitality industry with wait staff, it's just super creepy.
So Hooters may just be going the way of the printed newspaper and the video cassette recorder. It once fulfilled a need that is better provided for, and now only has a niche audience.
7% over 4 years is really fucking good?
most restaurants dont last a year, including franchises.
Negative growth leads to more stagflation.. Its only snowballed since the article was written in 2016.
I dont understand. I thought that was the selling point of hooters. Thats like being offended by a strip club requiring you to strip while working?
Never been to one as like the post says we don't have them in the UK, but it kind of strikes me as the worst of both worlds. It's themed around ogling the staff so the food isn't the focus. But the staff don't actually get naked or do anything erotic.
Idk i live in mainland europe so i dont really see american stuff
The only problem I have with places like that is that they make me feel incredibly insecure about my own body. I'm not campaigning for a boycott or anything, but I really wish there was more diversity in the kinds of women they hired instead of reinforcing the current beauty standard by only hiring women who fit within it.
I've never been to a hooters though, so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.
CIS male, been to a hooter once or twice with work friends who insisted their hot chicken sandwiches/wings are good. I didn't really like that style (Buffalo style hot sauce isn't for me, as I grew up on stuff like Scotch Bonnet peppers and fin Buffalo mostly vinegary than hot or flavorful), and I've never felt comfortable ogling staff that has to put up with my bullshit(or lack thereof).
It's just an uncomfortable restaurant.
The one Hooters I ever went to did have a large woman working there.
She was the hostess and they kept her covered up and let the conventionally attractive women wait tables.
I wonder if that was even legal?
Been a lot of increases competition in the breast-aurant scene since Hooters started. Hooters basically pioneered it but with Tilted Kilt and Twin Peaks out there offering better beer selections and food it’s kind of a no brainer where to go
We had a Hooters in my area but it died with the quickness. I don't think even folks Iknew that I'd expect to go went, likely because strip clubs around here have better food lol
the only thing i know about hooters is the episode of saved by the bell the college years were they all worked at skeeters, which was so obviously just a parody of hooters without the chance of being sued
If the only thing you know about Hooters is from the show that wasn't a Hooters then how do you know it was a parody?
If I wanted buffalo hot wings and a giant mug of blue moon, I knew where to go.
I'm non-male so generally servers seemed way chill, nbd. Hard agree though, the dress code needs to go.
And now Gen Z comes along and demands that both men and women be allowed to wear skimpy clothes
Sexualized workplaces are perfectly acceptable if basic rules of consent are followed.
The problem with Hooters, regardless of things like the innate exploitation of capitalist systems and tip based services, is that we all know neither managers or customers were all that down with consent.
Also, shit food and beer pretending to not be fell out of fashion. See TGI Fridays, Chili's, Outback, etc. None of them are doing well even though they were killing it in the 90's and 2Ks.
You used to be able to say you were going to hooters for the wings, it was still. fucking lie but it was plausible.
Yeah, I was gonna say the only time I've eaten there the food was trash, but looks like everybody in the comments agrees. Even Outback has way better food (not the steak tho, it's bad).
Brazil itself if keeping Outback lights on. They fucking love it.
When I lived near one I would get the wings delivered by Doordash. I liked them though they cost more than they were worth
Growing up and never going there I always thought Hooters waitresses were topless. When I found out they weren’t, the whole thing actually sounded more pervy to me.
Strip clubs seem less demeaning to me lol. Hooters is basically if you took sexual harassment in the workplace and made it your gimmick.
Yeah, pretty much it's "let's train people to think of waitresses as sex objects and stare at their tits"
Down with regular Hooters.
Up with Femboy Hooters.
I'm partial to AroAce Shoney's, myself.
My mind drifted towards those posts about equality in fantasy armour, with either everyone slutty, or everyone covered with an inordinate amount of steel plate.
This leads inescapably to an image of a Shoney's staffed entirely with metal clad medieval knights of indeterminate gender.
Its such a weird vibe. I feel less sleazy eating at a strip club.
And now you've got places like Trim Peaks, which is basically Hooters minus the class.
I've only been to a Hooters once. I was with a big group and they all wanted to go. Women in skimpy outfits do nothing for me (if I want to be titillated, I'll look at porn), so I wasn't really interested, but I went.
I ordered a chicken breast sandwich.
I have no idea how you ruin something as simple as a chicken breast sandwich, but they did it.
If you can't even cook basic food and your only draw is 'we are a strip club except without the stripping,' why does anyone want to go?
The only time I ever considered going to a Hooter's was when I was dating a lesbian. It hits different when your partner also likes boobs as much as you lol.
Hooters is an artifact of the 1960s‐1970s sexual revolution, before which we had very few opportunities to see bodies other than those we married or were related to. Hence we had the R-rated movie golden age in which naked boobs appeared at least once in a 90s minute run, And two or three peek-a-boo flashes of different boobs was good value. Hence the breast-count included in Joe-Bob Briggs' drive-in cinema reviews.
So boomers and their parents (greatests?) got way more buzz from busty, tightly-clad waitresses serving greasy food than us younguns. Even I (GenX) had pirated Playboy channel before USENET supplied me with all the human specimens I could ever want. As a young adult I didn't get the point, and post #MeToo, with awareness that Hooters is as exploitative as the rest of the hospitality industry with wait staff, it's just super creepy.
So Hooters may just be going the way of the printed newspaper and the video cassette recorder. It once fulfilled a need that is better provided for, and now only has a niche audience.
7% over 4 years is really fucking good?
most restaurants dont last a year, including franchises.
Negative growth leads to more stagflation.. Its only snowballed since the article was written in 2016.
I dont understand. I thought that was the selling point of hooters. Thats like being offended by a strip club requiring you to strip while working?
Never been to one as like the post says we don't have them in the UK, but it kind of strikes me as the worst of both worlds. It's themed around ogling the staff so the food isn't the focus. But the staff don't actually get naked or do anything erotic.
Idk i live in mainland europe so i dont really see american stuff
The only problem I have with places like that is that they make me feel incredibly insecure about my own body. I'm not campaigning for a boycott or anything, but I really wish there was more diversity in the kinds of women they hired instead of reinforcing the current beauty standard by only hiring women who fit within it.
I've never been to a hooters though, so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.
CIS male, been to a hooter once or twice with work friends who insisted their hot chicken sandwiches/wings are good. I didn't really like that style (Buffalo style hot sauce isn't for me, as I grew up on stuff like Scotch Bonnet peppers and fin Buffalo mostly vinegary than hot or flavorful), and I've never felt comfortable ogling staff that has to put up with my bullshit(or lack thereof).
It's just an uncomfortable restaurant.
The one Hooters I ever went to did have a large woman working there.
She was the hostess and they kept her covered up and let the conventionally attractive women wait tables.
I wonder if that was even legal?
Been a lot of increases competition in the breast-aurant scene since Hooters started. Hooters basically pioneered it but with Tilted Kilt and Twin Peaks out there offering better beer selections and food it’s kind of a no brainer where to go
We had a Hooters in my area but it died with the quickness. I don't think even folks Iknew that I'd expect to go went, likely because strip clubs around here have better food lol
the only thing i know about hooters is the episode of saved by the bell the college years were they all worked at skeeters, which was so obviously just a parody of hooters without the chance of being sued
If the only thing you know about Hooters is from the show that wasn't a Hooters then how do you know it was a parody?
If I wanted buffalo hot wings and a giant mug of blue moon, I knew where to go.
I'm non-male so generally servers seemed way chill, nbd. Hard agree though, the dress code needs to go.
And now Gen Z comes along and demands that both men and women be allowed to wear skimpy clothes
lmao hooters with femboys
where
https://e621.net/wiki_pages/30816
Why are these femboys all furries?!
It's e621, which is just for furries
Oh ok, that makes a lot of sense then. Thanks.
I don't know where this info is from, but there's been a Hooters open in Nottingham, UK for 25 years...
Hooters is good. People are far to sensitive.
Don't like it? Don't go.