I'm a Demodex folliculorum and I'm currently dating a Demodex brevis so I'm somewhat of an expert. Our host is pretty gross and rarely showers which has made the real estate in this area really expensive. We've been trying to move to another host but the opportunity hasn't come up yet. Anyway, to answer your question, we have scuba gear.
It's so good to have diverse voices to hear from.
Thanks for the insight, Greg.
I think this is the dude who stole our lawnmower!!
I did steal a lawnmower from a fellow lemming, and they were from @lemmy.world, but I think it was a different @UndulyUnruly
That smell. I recognise that smell. It’s the smell of pants on fire.
I wish Lemmy would grow to the point when these Reddit moments of "I'm a dermatologist, and actually...” happen as usual as they happen on Reddit.
Hey at least we're at the point where people are asking the questions! Literally three days ago nobody needed to summon a dermatologist.
Literally three days ago nobody needed to summon a dermatologist.
As a nerd with regular cycles of bad skin from dermatitis since my teen years I doubt nobody in a community of nerds needed to summon a dermatologist, but we may soon hit the sweet spot of being big enough to have specific expertise in comments without people lying for clout or karma farming!
Those were the days
I like your attitude!
That used to be the case on reddit. These days you have to scroll through hundreds of lame jokes to find an actual discussion.
As far as I notice, puns are an important aspect of English-speaking culture, so I understand that and I'm ok with that. At least for me this "actually..." moment is always worth the scrolling effort :)
There's a time and a place and it's not just wherever you can shove one in.
But you can
sigh
It's just the nature of a completely open and well known forum, I am okay with that. If I want a more edifying conversation, I would look elsewhere anyway.
The complete openness to thought both beautiful and disgusting is what provides value to reddit, and will eventually provide value to Lemmy. It will be even better on Lemmy because instances that are aligned or adjacent can remain "friends" or federated so the users van easily maintain their echo chambers and create accounts to explore outside of them.
Yes, but not to the extent of redditors.
Half the time they were lying anyway :(
I am an expert on the little bugs that live on your skin. Swimming for extended periods not only doesn't harm them, it makes them stronger. Try to limit swimming to 2 hours or less or they may become strong enough to take over control of your body!
Actually the chlorine in our water supply is creating seven different super bugs right this moment that are resistant to everything!
No! It's the fluorine!
That's super interesting- would you have some sources or at least some keywords I could search for more info on how this happens?
Guess now’s an appropriate time o post this…
Do you have a source on that?
Source?
A source. I need a source.
Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion.
No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered.
You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence.
Do you have a degree in that field?
A college degree? In that field?
Then your arguments are invalid.
No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation.
Correlation does not equal causation.
CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION.
You still haven't provided me a valid source yet.
Nope, still haven't.
I just looked through all 308 pages of your user history, figures I'm debating a glormpf supporter. A moron.
If you don't understand how science works, that is obviously a you problem.
I can clearly tell that was a satirical copypasta; I cant tell if you're being sarcastic, too, though.
Had I been arguing or trying to dispute then your reply would have been appropriate. Better luck next time.
First lemmy comment to make me laugh, thank you for that.
Only half?
Hey now, we can just lie and pretend to know what we're talking about, just like most on Reddit! 🥳😉
I’m seeing that, for technology stuff, which is the first step.
It will happen one day… hopefully soon
You will still find these on Quora. They don't even need to say what they are, their subtitle will just say it all
Except they usually won't answer your question, they'll just call you dumb and move on
As another user pointed out, most bacteria and other microscopic forms of life don't really "breath" in the way we think of it. Often they just absorb oxygen from their surrounding environments.
They can be washed away, killed by chlorine (pools), or killed by salt imbalance (ocean). However it's really hard (read near impossible) to kill them all, and even if you did they exist in our environments naturally and from other humans as well as on things we've touched recently. So they repopulate quickly.
There are some arguments that Sodium Laurel Sulfate kills "good" bacteria on our skin.
I never realised how much I really want to know the answer to this question.
Showering does kill mites and bacteria that are all over your body. They’re quite resilient though so you’re never really rid of them.
Yea, I wanna know if I'm committing genocide every time I shower or not. 😈
Shower, probably. Part of the function of soap (and scrubbing) is to dislodge dirt and bacteria, so it gets washed away.
So you're either committing genocide by killing them outright, or forcefully relocating them from your body. (also why 99% soap generally doesn't matter too much compared to regular soap)
Doesn't the nature of subsurfacants rip apart most bacteria? That's what I have always been taught, but my mother supplemented a lot of my education and I have learned she hasn't always been 100% right... although neither were my textbooks l... so I guess flaws all around
Yessir
Here's hoping someone comes with a good answer.
Now hear me out:
What if you jumped through a tall fire, naked, a few times? Nothing so fast as to actually burn you, but enough to make you hairless.
I'm fairly certain that would kill quite a bit of the microbiome.
!whywomenlivelonger
Waitaminute. They don't actually shave thier legs?
I am not a microbiologist. However I do know that bacteria are pretty resilient, and most pathogens and parasites can live for at least a few hours outside of a host. Plus your skin is really not all that smooth at a microscopic level, there are all sorts of little nooks and crannies to hold onto.
Drowning wouldn’t really be a concern for them, imo, but additives like chlorine are specifically meant to be disinfectants.
Actually though. How are the little guys in my eyebrows going? I need to know
Some do other don’t. Bugs/bacterias are resilient.
I would expect the chlorine in a swimming pool or the salt content on the ocean to be a bigger problem for the microscopic life on our bodies.
Nightmare fuel, thanks
I can't say I know the answer, but I do know that one of these bugs -- Tardigrades -- are extremely hard to kill. IIRC one was put into a vacuum and removed after some time. It was either completely fine right away or after a little while.
If I had to give a guess to other things, some of them probably die, yes. Hopefully someone else who knows more will be able to give more information!
And we become a graveyard of little bugs
This is so nasty and interesting at the same time
I used to wonder the same thing about lice. I think it depends.. but yeah no idea.
Here's what Chatgpt/google bard have to say:
The answer is: not necessarily. Most of the bacteria on our skin are adapted to living in wet environments, so they will not suffocate. However, some bacteria may be washed away or killed by the chlorine in the pool.
Why are we relying on language models to answer questions. These things don’t really “know” anything right?
They don't, but they sound as convincing, (and are probably as correct) as a random blog you'd find googling your question
They don’t, and people are way too blasé about how “oh it’s actually the same as googling because it’s just taking from sources online anyway,” when in reality it does nothing to “keep” the knowledge it gets from those sites and is just stringing together words that often go together. It’s like thinking your phone’s predictive text can answer your questions, if your phone also invented quotes and sources (this has already been an issue with journalists and lawyers using ChatGPT to “research”).
Thank god someone who understands. I hated how towards the end reddit was so full of misinformation and people talking out of their ass with confidence. Hope Lemmy can steer away from those tendencies. It’s okay if we don’t have the answer sometimes.
No one knows anything get over yourself buddy - it gave a correct answer way more polite than I ever could so who's gonna complain
Don't they pull from online sources? So it's basically googling with extra steps and an unpredictable middleman
That would be right if they understood/knew what they were talking about. It’s more akin to really advanced autocorrect that sounds/reads like something the ai was trained on. So it sounds correct but really has 0 basis on truth other than “the model predicts a human would say X next”. Truth is rarely the goal of any of these machine learning language models afaik.
People are downvoting because of the first line.
Yeah, I’m aware. There were like 10 comments with no replies, so I thought it’d be fun to see what the Chatbot would say. I didn’t take its answer too seriously, but I knew people might be sensitive to the answer. It would have been unfair of me to not say that it was though. Now people can at least decide whether or not to discard the information by providing a “source”.
I'm a Demodex folliculorum and I'm currently dating a Demodex brevis so I'm somewhat of an expert. Our host is pretty gross and rarely showers which has made the real estate in this area really expensive. We've been trying to move to another host but the opportunity hasn't come up yet. Anyway, to answer your question, we have scuba gear.
It's so good to have diverse voices to hear from.
Thanks for the insight, Greg.
I think this is the dude who stole our lawnmower!!
I did steal a lawnmower from a fellow lemming, and they were from @lemmy.world, but I think it was a different @UndulyUnruly
That smell. I recognise that smell. It’s the smell of pants on fire.
I wish Lemmy would grow to the point when these Reddit moments of "I'm a dermatologist, and actually...” happen as usual as they happen on Reddit.
Hey at least we're at the point where people are asking the questions! Literally three days ago nobody needed to summon a dermatologist.
As a nerd with regular cycles of bad skin from dermatitis since my teen years I doubt nobody in a community of nerds needed to summon a dermatologist, but we may soon hit the sweet spot of being big enough to have specific expertise in comments without people lying for clout or karma farming!
Those were the days
I like your attitude!
That used to be the case on reddit. These days you have to scroll through hundreds of lame jokes to find an actual discussion.
As far as I notice, puns are an important aspect of English-speaking culture, so I understand that and I'm ok with that. At least for me this "actually..." moment is always worth the scrolling effort :)
There's a time and a place and it's not just wherever you can shove one in.
But you can
sigh
It's just the nature of a completely open and well known forum, I am okay with that. If I want a more edifying conversation, I would look elsewhere anyway.
The complete openness to thought both beautiful and disgusting is what provides value to reddit, and will eventually provide value to Lemmy. It will be even better on Lemmy because instances that are aligned or adjacent can remain "friends" or federated so the users van easily maintain their echo chambers and create accounts to explore outside of them.
Yes, but not to the extent of redditors.
Half the time they were lying anyway :(
I am an expert on the little bugs that live on your skin. Swimming for extended periods not only doesn't harm them, it makes them stronger. Try to limit swimming to 2 hours or less or they may become strong enough to take over control of your body!
Actually the chlorine in our water supply is creating seven different super bugs right this moment that are resistant to everything!
No! It's the fluorine!
That's super interesting- would you have some sources or at least some keywords I could search for more info on how this happens?
Guess now’s an appropriate time o post this…
Do you have a source on that? Source? A source. I need a source. Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion. No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered. You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence. Do you have a degree in that field? A college degree? In that field? Then your arguments are invalid. No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation. Correlation does not equal causation. CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION. You still haven't provided me a valid source yet. Nope, still haven't. I just looked through all 308 pages of your user history, figures I'm debating a glormpf supporter. A moron.
If you don't understand how science works, that is obviously a you problem.
I can clearly tell that was a satirical copypasta; I cant tell if you're being sarcastic, too, though.
Had I been arguing or trying to dispute then your reply would have been appropriate. Better luck next time.
First lemmy comment to make me laugh, thank you for that.
Only half?
Hey now, we can just lie and pretend to know what we're talking about, just like most on Reddit! 🥳😉
I’m seeing that, for technology stuff, which is the first step.
It will happen one day… hopefully soon
You will still find these on Quora. They don't even need to say what they are, their subtitle will just say it all
Except they usually won't answer your question, they'll just call you dumb and move on
As another user pointed out, most bacteria and other microscopic forms of life don't really "breath" in the way we think of it. Often they just absorb oxygen from their surrounding environments.
They can be washed away, killed by chlorine (pools), or killed by salt imbalance (ocean). However it's really hard (read near impossible) to kill them all, and even if you did they exist in our environments naturally and from other humans as well as on things we've touched recently. So they repopulate quickly.
There are some arguments that Sodium Laurel Sulfate kills "good" bacteria on our skin.
I never realised how much I really want to know the answer to this question.
Showering does kill mites and bacteria that are all over your body. They’re quite resilient though so you’re never really rid of them.
Yea, I wanna know if I'm committing genocide every time I shower or not. 😈
Shower, probably. Part of the function of soap (and scrubbing) is to dislodge dirt and bacteria, so it gets washed away.
So you're either committing genocide by killing them outright, or forcefully relocating them from your body. (also why 99% soap generally doesn't matter too much compared to regular soap)
Doesn't the nature of subsurfacants rip apart most bacteria? That's what I have always been taught, but my mother supplemented a lot of my education and I have learned she hasn't always been 100% right... although neither were my textbooks l... so I guess flaws all around
Yessir
Here's hoping someone comes with a good answer.
Now hear me out:
What if you jumped through a tall fire, naked, a few times? Nothing so fast as to actually burn you, but enough to make you hairless.
I'm fairly certain that would kill quite a bit of the microbiome.
!whywomenlivelonger
Waitaminute. They don't actually shave thier legs?
Ah, you're a gentleman of logic, I see.
That's one way to get bald alright
May I suggest relocating to a warm, soapy box?
TIL I have little bugs on my skin :(
So many!
healthier not to think about it
Those were the days
I am not a microbiologist. However I do know that bacteria are pretty resilient, and most pathogens and parasites can live for at least a few hours outside of a host. Plus your skin is really not all that smooth at a microscopic level, there are all sorts of little nooks and crannies to hold onto.
Drowning wouldn’t really be a concern for them, imo, but additives like chlorine are specifically meant to be disinfectants.
Actually though. How are the little guys in my eyebrows going? I need to know
https://lemmy.fmhy.ml/post/535521
Some do other don’t. Bugs/bacterias are resilient.
I would expect the chlorine in a swimming pool or the salt content on the ocean to be a bigger problem for the microscopic life on our bodies.
Nightmare fuel, thanks
I can't say I know the answer, but I do know that one of these bugs -- Tardigrades -- are extremely hard to kill. IIRC one was put into a vacuum and removed after some time. It was either completely fine right away or after a little while.
If I had to give a guess to other things, some of them probably die, yes. Hopefully someone else who knows more will be able to give more information!
And we become a graveyard of little bugs
This is so nasty and interesting at the same time
I used to wonder the same thing about lice. I think it depends.. but yeah no idea.
Here's what Chatgpt/google bard have to say:
The answer is: not necessarily. Most of the bacteria on our skin are adapted to living in wet environments, so they will not suffocate. However, some bacteria may be washed away or killed by the chlorine in the pool.
Why are we relying on language models to answer questions. These things don’t really “know” anything right?
They don't, but they sound as convincing, (and are probably as correct) as a random blog you'd find googling your question
They don’t, and people are way too blasé about how “oh it’s actually the same as googling because it’s just taking from sources online anyway,” when in reality it does nothing to “keep” the knowledge it gets from those sites and is just stringing together words that often go together. It’s like thinking your phone’s predictive text can answer your questions, if your phone also invented quotes and sources (this has already been an issue with journalists and lawyers using ChatGPT to “research”).
Thank god someone who understands. I hated how towards the end reddit was so full of misinformation and people talking out of their ass with confidence. Hope Lemmy can steer away from those tendencies. It’s okay if we don’t have the answer sometimes.
No one knows anything get over yourself buddy - it gave a correct answer way more polite than I ever could so who's gonna complain
Don't they pull from online sources? So it's basically googling with extra steps and an unpredictable middleman
That would be right if they understood/knew what they were talking about. It’s more akin to really advanced autocorrect that sounds/reads like something the ai was trained on. So it sounds correct but really has 0 basis on truth other than “the model predicts a human would say X next”. Truth is rarely the goal of any of these machine learning language models afaik.
People are downvoting because of the first line.
Yeah, I’m aware. There were like 10 comments with no replies, so I thought it’d be fun to see what the Chatbot would say. I didn’t take its answer too seriously, but I knew people might be sensitive to the answer. It would have been unfair of me to not say that it was though. Now people can at least decide whether or not to discard the information by providing a “source”.
Rabbits