Wow, that's great!!
So I guess all the chemicals coming out of the coal, oil and gas fired power plants will be stopped then.
CO2, NOx, particulates all are chemicals and are all intentionally released during combustion.
Me: breathing in oxygen and exhaling CO2
Cops: you're under arrest.
That's the least of your worries - no more farting!!!
You can't tell me what to do!
sharts
🫠
freedom releases
You can take away my life but you'll never take...my FLATULENCE!
Fuck can I at least rust?
Don't forget cars!
No more rolling coal in TN
drops charcoal briquette down hill
The bill forbids "intentional injection, release, or dispersion" of chemicals into the air.
Instead it broadly prohibits "affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity of the sunlight".
This bill is obviously based in ignorance, but from an envirinmental/pollution standpoint this seems like a good thing. It's not their intention, but it sounds like it would protect the atmosphere from potential real polluters.
Edit: based in ignorance in the sense that some people supported the bill to ban "chem trails" (an ignorant position). Not in the sense that weather manipulation isn't real.
Suddenly every wood burning residential fireplace is illegal.
Wood smoke can obscure intensity of sunlight temporarily, increases temperature as a consequence of combustion, and small particulate matter like smoke particles are what makes rain possible, which would be weather effects
Hell, breathing is illegal.
"Here's a ticket for breathing out in violation of Tennessee law"
"What?!"
"Oh so you're a repeat offender are you? Here's a second ticket. You wanna try for three?"
Oh we got a smart-ass over here trying to hold her breath? Well missy you should have thought about that before getting pregnant. Now we've got you for attempted murder!
Um, no it's not. There are legit weather manipulating programs. Not the conspiracy chem trails bs, but legit "weather manipulation isn't illegal, so private companies have started getting into it for creating snow on mountains or clearing the sky before a concert" things. It made the news awhile back when a, I believe, California company, started doing it.
Beijing did it before the Olympics. It wasn't a secret by any means.
As it stands now, there is very little regulation in that area if the things you are spraying aren't already considered toxic substances. But should just anyone be able to manipulate the weather? Won't that cause more widespread issues? Maybe, maybe not. But should we leave that decision in the hands of corporations?
ETA: If you want to know more, start by looking up "cloud seeding". You'll see we've been openly testing it for decades. Source: Google
Just because people/corporations can use those legitimate weather manipulation tools, should they be allowed to?
I don't think they should. That's why I'm saying this bill seems like an unintentionally good thing.
I'm confused by your comment. I think we agree there should be regulation on the manipulation you described?
You say it's based in ignorance. It's not. Weather manipulation is real. This isn't just "let's not spray pollutants". It's very specifically targeting weather manipulation. You're seeming to say "well they're doing it because of a conspiracy, but at least it helps the environment anyways". No, we're doing it because of real tech that has been used since the 60's and is completely unregulated. This is intentionally a good thing, specifically targeting an issue.
Gotcha, that comment makes more sense now.
I suppose I was being a bit cynical. However, I think many people supported the bill to ban "Chem trails," and were ignorant to actual weather manipulation techniques it was prohibiting.
Bottom line is that this bill is a good thing. It doesn't really matter what reasons people had for supporting it.
I get your point, but we also need to change this behaviour of treating all conspiracy theories as being full of crazy people. Is every plane spreading chem trails? Absolutely not. But some absolutely are and the people who try to bring attention to it get lumped in with the Flat Earthers. It's very hard to talk about the legit programs going on without being dismissed as crazy or "ignorant". It's long been a tactic to paint the other side as dumb or crazy and thus stifle actual discussion. We as a society need to rise above this.
I hear ya, there's definitely nuance. There are certainly crazy people that supported this for crazy reasons, and there are rational people who supported this for rational reasons. I'm not trying to dismiss the whole thing as a crazy conspiracy theory.
Bruh, you're still doing it in your edit to your OP. Chem trails are real. They release the chemicals via rockets or planes.
Are all trails chem trails, NO. Are chem trails how they get the chemicals up there? Well yeah.
Seriously, go look up the history of cloud seeding.
You keep trying to say "well the people who support this are ignorant because it's not 100% the crazy conspiracy theory, only 95%".
We're clearly talking past each other here. When I say "chem trails" I'm referring to the stereotypical 1990s conspiracy of the government covertly and nefariously spraying mystery chemicals across the country to experiment/harm citizens: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtrail_conspiracy_theory?wprov=sfla1
I'm not talking about real weather manipulation, cloud seeding, etc. Which are real, but not covertly and nefariously done by the government and corporations.
If you read the article, it's not really about cloud seeding, it's about solar geo-engineering, which us also a real thing
Um, cloud seeding is solar geo-enginerring. What do you think clouds are doing? You realize they change the abeido, right? You're trying to be pedantic, but it's just wrong.
Cloud seeding is a form of solar geoengineering, but it's not the only type of solar geoengineering. The type that seems most likely, and most likely targeted by this legislation, does not involve clouds.
The article states that this bill bans cloud seeding
In a joking response, John Ray Clemmons, a Democrat from Nashville, introduced an amendment that would protect fictional beasts.
"This amendment would make sure that we are protecting yetis, or Sasquatch or Bigfoot, from whatever this conspiracy is that we're passing in this legislation," he said during debate.
I love how they think that both chemtrails are real and that the evil secret cabal will care about their little law.
These people don't have any internal consistency in their mad conspiracy theories.
Instead it broadly prohibits "affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity of the sunlight".
Let's go after companies emitting CO2, CO, SO2, etc. TN is going to have to go green real quick.
I'm guessing this is targeted at the geoengineering idea of emitting sulfur dioxide alternatives to bring down local temperatures but it is written in a way that prohibits CO2 emission. Good job, Republicans. You just passed the greenest bill in the country.
Hmm. Can we uno reverse this to shut down companies who are egregious polluters? Please say we can.
Right? My first thought was "how the fuck did Eastman let this one slip through?"
So they don't crop dust in Tennessee then?
'Silent but deadly' is a misdemeanor.
Frivolous lawsuits over steam in the air are incoming...
But also: RIP crop dusters in TN.
RIP to the single most effective form of mosquito population control.
This is what I thought of immediately. Crop dusters, how about flame retardant? Can you not put fires out from the air in Tennessee?
How exactly do they plan to enforce it?
Arbitrarily.
Can they even arbitrarily enforce it? What are they going to do, stop a passenger jet in mid-air?
The bill says the act needs to be intentional, so they pick and choose whose pollution is intended to manipulate the weather. They could choose a particular airline and fine them, with jurisdiction depending on whether the airline operates out of an airport in Tennessee.
Sounds like a great way to destroy Tennessee's economy.
This is just one of many insanities here. I moved back here four years ago and it not the same place I left in 2008. It’s batshit crazy. But I’m stuck here now until my dad dies. :(
Would it be rude to say we hope he dies soon? For your sake.
I feel that way about moving back to Indiana.
Distributing toxic indicator solutions that change colour when they come into contact with other chemicals via airplane (Boeing for increased effectiveness)
Wait until they find out the air you expel when breathing is made of chemicals and you're injecting them in the athmosphere.
Imagine being the poor bastard DA asked to bring this case. FFS may as well make leprechauns illegal. Tennessee, man. Come on.
O! So we don't have to do anything: said every airline ever.
Something is fishy, if you look up the bills that supposedly did this, they don't say anything about this topic.
Edit: looks like I missed the amendment in the mobile version of the site. What's funny is by the wording of the amendment, it's perfectly legal to use airplanes to disperse mind control chemicals, lol. They are only banning efforts to combat climate change.
AMENDMENT #1 rewrites the bill to prohibit the intentional injection, release, or dispersion, by any means, of chemicals, chemical compounds, substances, or apparatus within the borders of this state into the atmosphere with the express purpose of affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity of the sunlight.
So they forgot to ban the chemtrails that are making the frogs gay. Rainbows aren't real. They are just a side affect of the chemtrails
Hope they never need to put out fires using planes dropping dihydrogen monoxide
Wow, that's great!! So I guess all the chemicals coming out of the coal, oil and gas fired power plants will be stopped then.
CO2, NOx, particulates all are chemicals and are all intentionally released during combustion.
Me: breathing in oxygen and exhaling CO2
Cops: you're under arrest.
That's the least of your worries - no more farting!!!
You can't tell me what to do!
sharts
🫠
freedom releases
You can take away my life but you'll never take...my FLATULENCE!
Fuck can I at least rust?
Don't forget cars!
No more rolling coal in TN
drops charcoal briquette down hill
This bill is obviously based in ignorance, but from an envirinmental/pollution standpoint this seems like a good thing. It's not their intention, but it sounds like it would protect the atmosphere from potential real polluters.
Edit: based in ignorance in the sense that some people supported the bill to ban "chem trails" (an ignorant position). Not in the sense that weather manipulation isn't real.
Suddenly every wood burning residential fireplace is illegal.
Wood smoke can obscure intensity of sunlight temporarily, increases temperature as a consequence of combustion, and small particulate matter like smoke particles are what makes rain possible, which would be weather effects
Hell, breathing is illegal.
"Here's a ticket for breathing out in violation of Tennessee law"
"What?!"
"Oh so you're a repeat offender are you? Here's a second ticket. You wanna try for three?"
Oh we got a smart-ass over here trying to hold her breath? Well missy you should have thought about that before getting pregnant. Now we've got you for attempted murder!
Um, no it's not. There are legit weather manipulating programs. Not the conspiracy chem trails bs, but legit "weather manipulation isn't illegal, so private companies have started getting into it for creating snow on mountains or clearing the sky before a concert" things. It made the news awhile back when a, I believe, California company, started doing it.
Beijing did it before the Olympics. It wasn't a secret by any means.
As it stands now, there is very little regulation in that area if the things you are spraying aren't already considered toxic substances. But should just anyone be able to manipulate the weather? Won't that cause more widespread issues? Maybe, maybe not. But should we leave that decision in the hands of corporations?
ETA: If you want to know more, start by looking up "cloud seeding". You'll see we've been openly testing it for decades. Source: Google
Just because people/corporations can use those legitimate weather manipulation tools, should they be allowed to?
I don't think they should. That's why I'm saying this bill seems like an unintentionally good thing.
I'm confused by your comment. I think we agree there should be regulation on the manipulation you described?
You say it's based in ignorance. It's not. Weather manipulation is real. This isn't just "let's not spray pollutants". It's very specifically targeting weather manipulation. You're seeming to say "well they're doing it because of a conspiracy, but at least it helps the environment anyways". No, we're doing it because of real tech that has been used since the 60's and is completely unregulated. This is intentionally a good thing, specifically targeting an issue.
Gotcha, that comment makes more sense now.
I suppose I was being a bit cynical. However, I think many people supported the bill to ban "Chem trails," and were ignorant to actual weather manipulation techniques it was prohibiting.
Bottom line is that this bill is a good thing. It doesn't really matter what reasons people had for supporting it.
I get your point, but we also need to change this behaviour of treating all conspiracy theories as being full of crazy people. Is every plane spreading chem trails? Absolutely not. But some absolutely are and the people who try to bring attention to it get lumped in with the Flat Earthers. It's very hard to talk about the legit programs going on without being dismissed as crazy or "ignorant". It's long been a tactic to paint the other side as dumb or crazy and thus stifle actual discussion. We as a society need to rise above this.
I hear ya, there's definitely nuance. There are certainly crazy people that supported this for crazy reasons, and there are rational people who supported this for rational reasons. I'm not trying to dismiss the whole thing as a crazy conspiracy theory.
Bruh, you're still doing it in your edit to your OP. Chem trails are real. They release the chemicals via rockets or planes.
Are all trails chem trails, NO. Are chem trails how they get the chemicals up there? Well yeah.
Seriously, go look up the history of cloud seeding.
You keep trying to say "well the people who support this are ignorant because it's not 100% the crazy conspiracy theory, only 95%".
We're clearly talking past each other here. When I say "chem trails" I'm referring to the stereotypical 1990s conspiracy of the government covertly and nefariously spraying mystery chemicals across the country to experiment/harm citizens: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtrail_conspiracy_theory?wprov=sfla1
I'm not talking about real weather manipulation, cloud seeding, etc. Which are real, but not covertly and nefariously done by the government and corporations.
If you read the article, it's not really about cloud seeding, it's about solar geo-engineering, which us also a real thing
Um, cloud seeding is solar geo-enginerring. What do you think clouds are doing? You realize they change the abeido, right? You're trying to be pedantic, but it's just wrong.
Cloud seeding is a form of solar geoengineering, but it's not the only type of solar geoengineering. The type that seems most likely, and most likely targeted by this legislation, does not involve clouds.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratospheric_aerosol_injection
The article states that this bill bans cloud seeding
I love how they think that both chemtrails are real and that the evil secret cabal will care about their little law.
These people don't have any internal consistency in their mad conspiracy theories.
Let's go after companies emitting CO2, CO, SO2, etc. TN is going to have to go green real quick.
I'm guessing this is targeted at the geoengineering idea of emitting sulfur dioxide alternatives to bring down local temperatures but it is written in a way that prohibits CO2 emission. Good job, Republicans. You just passed the greenest bill in the country.
Hmm. Can we uno reverse this to shut down companies who are egregious polluters? Please say we can.
Right? My first thought was "how the fuck did Eastman let this one slip through?"
So they don't crop dust in Tennessee then?
'Silent but deadly' is a misdemeanor.
Frivolous lawsuits over steam in the air are incoming...
But also: RIP crop dusters in TN.
RIP to the single most effective form of mosquito population control.
This is what I thought of immediately. Crop dusters, how about flame retardant? Can you not put fires out from the air in Tennessee?
How exactly do they plan to enforce it?
Arbitrarily.
Can they even arbitrarily enforce it? What are they going to do, stop a passenger jet in mid-air?
The bill says the act needs to be intentional, so they pick and choose whose pollution is intended to manipulate the weather. They could choose a particular airline and fine them, with jurisdiction depending on whether the airline operates out of an airport in Tennessee.
Sounds like a great way to destroy Tennessee's economy.
This is just one of many insanities here. I moved back here four years ago and it not the same place I left in 2008. It’s batshit crazy. But I’m stuck here now until my dad dies. :(
Would it be rude to say we hope he dies soon? For your sake.
I feel that way about moving back to Indiana.
Distributing toxic indicator solutions that change colour when they come into contact with other chemicals via airplane (Boeing for increased effectiveness)
Wait until they find out the air you expel when breathing is made of chemicals and you're injecting them in the athmosphere.
Imagine being the poor bastard DA asked to bring this case. FFS may as well make leprechauns illegal. Tennessee, man. Come on.
O! So we don't have to do anything: said every airline ever.
Something is fishy, if you look up the bills that supposedly did this, they don't say anything about this topic.
Edit: looks like I missed the amendment in the mobile version of the site. What's funny is by the wording of the amendment, it's perfectly legal to use airplanes to disperse mind control chemicals, lol. They are only banning efforts to combat climate change.
So they forgot to ban the chemtrails that are making the frogs gay. Rainbows aren't real. They are just a side affect of the chemtrails
Hope they never need to put out fires using planes dropping dihydrogen monoxide
No muh F250
The new anthem of Tennessee