I wonder how many stared without protection, and how many were scammed with fake glasses.
I'm going to lean more towards fake glasses (benefit of the doubt and what not)
Fake products have been really popping off on Amazon for awhile now
Why would you give people the benefit of the doubt? We're stoopid.
Some are stupid, absolutely
But we can all easily be screwed over by fake products
Shit I got a fake SanDisk SD card a few years ago from Amazon, only found out after the return period because of how long it took to fill. Now I only buy storage from local electronics stores (when I can) and even then I test them.
It's not all Amazon's fault. Sometimes people buy a thing, then return it "unopened" because reasons, when, what they actually did, was remove the MacBook from the package and replaced it with a brick, then shipped it back to Amazon for a refund. Free MacBook.
Amazon restocks it because it was "unopened" and ships a fucking brick in a MacBook box to someone for thousands of dollars.
But yes, many, many, MANY, expensive products on Amazon are fake. Even not expensive ones too.
There is a lot of red team country there.
I also noticed after using them with my actual glasses, that it warns not to use them with other optical devices
I think that’s just because wearing them over regular glasses creates a bigass gap. I tried it for a second this time around before thinking better of it.
Well, you could put the glasses over the eclipse thingers.... But that would just focus the light right into the eclipse lenses and probably would make them not work so well. IDK.
I'm just some guy. Not like I work with optics for a living.
My only complaint was that, during totality (I was in the path), we couldn't see anything through the eclipse thingers. That's the part I wanted to see, and.... Nothing. Do I need two sets of these? One for totality, and one for the rest of the damn time?
You take off the glasses during totality. Only during totality is it safe to look.
I just fact checked this and apparently you're right.
"You can view the eclipse directly without proper eye protection only when the Moon completely obscures the Sun’s bright face – during the brief and spectacular period known as totality. (You’ll know it’s safe when you can no longer see any part of the Sun through eclipse glasses or a solar viewer.)"
Probably not many, the glasses are so cheap to make and so easy to tell if they aren't right.
Don't underestimate the stupidity of man.
The region map also tells a story
That's roughly where the path of totality went tho
Yes, that's the story it's telling
Hey now. Correlation does not indicate causation.
But yes. That's the reason because of course it is.
When I read OP's comment I thought they were saying that people from that region of the country would be more likely to stare into the sun and then google why their eyes hurt. Maybe that just says something about me and how I feel about them.
People misunderstanding and looking at it in partial maybe?
It's almost like, you stare at the sun, and it hurts your eyes regardless of whether the moon is in front of it or not.
OP swing Texans messed up their eyes more.
True story: Today I was on my college campus in California, on the quad, hoping to admire the partial eclipse today. Some enterprising young woman next to me was selling glasses for three bucks. I saw some people buy some and decided what the hell. Unfortunately the only thing she had left was some kind of monocle. I bought it anyway and enjoyed the partial eclipse. After around 10 minutes of looking on and off, I sat down to read the text on the monocle. It said it was exclusively for phone use and under no circumstances was it to be used for viewing with your eye. Saying it could cause serious damage. Thankfully no pain so far, but I hope I didn't do any kind of serious damage. I've had anxiety about it ever since. The seller said to not worry about it and it would be fine. She had no idea either. Lovely!
sees phone lens cover: "this is an old timey eclipse monocle".. I'm just teasing the idea of an eclipse monocle just made me giggle. I hope you're eyes are ok- it sounds like you're good?
I think it's more the manufacturer knows it can't cover both eyes and so tells you not to use it that way. If your eyes don't hurt, I'm sure the damage was very minimal. But what do I know.
Thanks, makes me feel better.
Well the floaties I bought for the pool had warnings in many languages but only the one in murican got my attention: it's not a toy and it's not a floatation device. What the hell do Americans use it for if the legalese forbids everything?
Same story with people treating kinder eggs like a lethal device.
I broke out my welding lens to look through. Worked very well. I can believe most of texas feeling the hurt since 'we' think we're immune to most health and safety warnings published forthe general public.
Was the shade in your lens at least 12 I hope?
Nope. 10.
Mine too lol. I know that isn't technically enough, but we aren't talking instantaneous damage like a laser here. You need to be much more careful around stuff like that.
Regular UV radiation is a gradient, like going outside without sunblock. You're gonna burn if you are an idiot about it. Don't stare at the thing for 60 minutes straight. We looked, we saw, and then we stopped looking.
Yeah i just looked at it from about 80% to the diamond ring stage. Not more than 5 minutes
I mean that is the stage most likely to cause damage, since there is a bit less light so your eyes dilate to take in more, but it is still just as intense.
Hasnt changed anything on me yet. I weld often enough to be acclimated i guess
I mean if your fine currently your probably fine,
Yep, same here. The auto darkening set I normally use didn't really work, but I just looked through a piece of spare glass I had lying around for a passive set.
Yeah i think autodarks have a limited range of activation. 93mil is probably a bit out of reach
west Virginians be looking at el sun
it's because they're closer to the sun on the mountains
All Hawaiians using glasses as it should be.
What glasses. Cardboard with slits.
But that just projects a shadow of what's happening. I needed the full experience. So yes, idk what glasses people were needing, I could see the sun perfectly fine. The spots and eye-pain afterward was just a bonus feature
Where can you find these graphs?
It looks like it's Google Trends, if I'm remembering correctly. If you search for that name, the page should come up, but I believe it's at trends.google.com. They're super interesting to look at!
I wonder how many stared without protection, and how many were scammed with fake glasses.
I'm going to lean more towards fake glasses (benefit of the doubt and what not)
Fake products have been really popping off on Amazon for awhile now
Why would you give people the benefit of the doubt? We're stoopid.
Some are stupid, absolutely
But we can all easily be screwed over by fake products
Shit I got a fake SanDisk SD card a few years ago from Amazon, only found out after the return period because of how long it took to fill. Now I only buy storage from local electronics stores (when I can) and even then I test them.
It's not all Amazon's fault. Sometimes people buy a thing, then return it "unopened" because reasons, when, what they actually did, was remove the MacBook from the package and replaced it with a brick, then shipped it back to Amazon for a refund. Free MacBook.
Amazon restocks it because it was "unopened" and ships a fucking brick in a MacBook box to someone for thousands of dollars.
But yes, many, many, MANY, expensive products on Amazon are fake. Even not expensive ones too.
There is a lot of red team country there.
I also noticed after using them with my actual glasses, that it warns not to use them with other optical devices
I think that’s just because wearing them over regular glasses creates a bigass gap. I tried it for a second this time around before thinking better of it.
Well, you could put the glasses over the eclipse thingers.... But that would just focus the light right into the eclipse lenses and probably would make them not work so well. IDK.
I'm just some guy. Not like I work with optics for a living.
My only complaint was that, during totality (I was in the path), we couldn't see anything through the eclipse thingers. That's the part I wanted to see, and.... Nothing. Do I need two sets of these? One for totality, and one for the rest of the damn time?
You take off the glasses during totality. Only during totality is it safe to look.
I just fact checked this and apparently you're right.
https://news.utexas.edu/2024/04/08/25-questions-and-answers-about-the-great-north-american-eclipse/#:~:text=It's%20perfectly%20safe%20to%20look,bright%20as%20a%20full%20Moon.
And https://science.nasa.gov/eclipses/future-eclipses/eclipse-2024/safety/
"You can view the eclipse directly without proper eye protection only when the Moon completely obscures the Sun’s bright face – during the brief and spectacular period known as totality. (You’ll know it’s safe when you can no longer see any part of the Sun through eclipse glasses or a solar viewer.)"
Probably not many, the glasses are so cheap to make and so easy to tell if they aren't right.
Don't underestimate the stupidity of man.
The region map also tells a story
That's roughly where the path of totality went tho
Yes, that's the story it's telling
Hey now. Correlation does not indicate causation.
But yes. That's the reason because of course it is.
When I read OP's comment I thought they were saying that people from that region of the country would be more likely to stare into the sun and then google why their eyes hurt. Maybe that just says something about me and how I feel about them.
People misunderstanding and looking at it in partial maybe?
It's almost like, you stare at the sun, and it hurts your eyes regardless of whether the moon is in front of it or not.
OP swing Texans messed up their eyes more.
True story: Today I was on my college campus in California, on the quad, hoping to admire the partial eclipse today. Some enterprising young woman next to me was selling glasses for three bucks. I saw some people buy some and decided what the hell. Unfortunately the only thing she had left was some kind of monocle. I bought it anyway and enjoyed the partial eclipse. After around 10 minutes of looking on and off, I sat down to read the text on the monocle. It said it was exclusively for phone use and under no circumstances was it to be used for viewing with your eye. Saying it could cause serious damage. Thankfully no pain so far, but I hope I didn't do any kind of serious damage. I've had anxiety about it ever since. The seller said to not worry about it and it would be fine. She had no idea either. Lovely!
sees phone lens cover: "this is an old timey eclipse monocle".. I'm just teasing the idea of an eclipse monocle just made me giggle. I hope you're eyes are ok- it sounds like you're good?
I think it's more the manufacturer knows it can't cover both eyes and so tells you not to use it that way. If your eyes don't hurt, I'm sure the damage was very minimal. But what do I know.
Thanks, makes me feel better.
Well the floaties I bought for the pool had warnings in many languages but only the one in murican got my attention: it's not a toy and it's not a floatation device. What the hell do Americans use it for if the legalese forbids everything?
Same story with people treating kinder eggs like a lethal device.
I broke out my welding lens to look through. Worked very well. I can believe most of texas feeling the hurt since 'we' think we're immune to most health and safety warnings published forthe general public.
Was the shade in your lens at least 12 I hope?
Nope. 10.
Mine too lol. I know that isn't technically enough, but we aren't talking instantaneous damage like a laser here. You need to be much more careful around stuff like that.
Regular UV radiation is a gradient, like going outside without sunblock. You're gonna burn if you are an idiot about it. Don't stare at the thing for 60 minutes straight. We looked, we saw, and then we stopped looking.
Yeah i just looked at it from about 80% to the diamond ring stage. Not more than 5 minutes
I mean that is the stage most likely to cause damage, since there is a bit less light so your eyes dilate to take in more, but it is still just as intense.
Hasnt changed anything on me yet. I weld often enough to be acclimated i guess
I mean if your fine currently your probably fine,
Yep, same here. The auto darkening set I normally use didn't really work, but I just looked through a piece of spare glass I had lying around for a passive set.
Yeah i think autodarks have a limited range of activation. 93mil is probably a bit out of reach
west Virginians be looking at el sun
it's because they're closer to the sun on the mountains
All Hawaiians using glasses as it should be.
What glasses. Cardboard with slits.
But that just projects a shadow of what's happening. I needed the full experience. So yes, idk what glasses people were needing, I could see the sun perfectly fine. The spots and eye-pain afterward was just a bonus feature
Where can you find these graphs?
It looks like it's Google Trends, if I'm remembering correctly. If you search for that name, the page should come up, but I believe it's at trends.google.com. They're super interesting to look at!
thanks!
You're very welcome! :)
Google trends
My eyes hurt trying to zoom in on the pixel.
What is the scale on the x axis?
The scale is yes.