Biden and Trump to face off in first presidential debate on June 27 in Georgia

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Biden and Trump to face off in first presidential debate on June 27 in Georgia
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“So let's pick the dates, Donald. I hear you're free on Wednesdays," Mr. Biden said.

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Who wants to bet Trump will not show up to the debate?

Not sure why he wouldn't, he's just going to ramble over Biden and gish gallop incoherently, while Biden's just going to "come on man" his way through.

I'd rather watch a dog fucking a tire.

I read elsewhere that one of Biden’s terms was that mics are off except when one person is allotted time to speak.

That would help; I hope there's no audience as well.

That's also part of the conditions Biden put forth. It's not related at all to the normal debate group that failed to moderate 2020 either.

I first read "I hope there's no audio as well." and up-voted.

Oh he'll show up. Then ignore all protocol and speak out of turn as usual.

That's a Thursday, can Trump get it off his criminal trials? Lol

Two really old guys yelling at each other. Should be entertaining to watch CNN cut Trump's mic multiple times.

It's going to be a shit show...

Both parties are cutting out the nonpartisan committee thats been running debates for 30 years.

I don't think people are remembering CNN was bought by a right-wing billionaire who flat out said his plan was to make CNN more like Faux News and fired every employee who spoke out against it.

Not that CNN was great before that, but this will be a total shitshow

I agree mostly. The one thing I really like is that there won't be an audience. It really just turned into who can get the most applause. I know I'm naive but if this can be more like the Nixon/Kennedy debate, that would be so much better than what the presidential "debates" devolved into in recent years.

Yeah, audience is dumb.

Both sides just cram in people that will cheer for their team and boo the other no matter what

We just need to see them think and talk without just reading off a teleprompter.

It's less about the policy and more which geriatric candidate can string together sentences that make sense.

So hopefully we get that at least.

Let's be real though, the nonpartisan committee has been doing a real shitty job running the debates in recent years. No order, bad questions, shitty crowds full of wooping plants, allowing candidates to shout over eachother and make faces or side comments, etc.

America doesn't need a repeat of the last 2 election cycles.

the commission on presidential debates was made by the two major parties because they wanted more control over the debates. Its always been a farce.

CNN will be forced to when Trump can't shut his fucking mouth for 30 seconds.

They have preemptively decided that the mic will immediately be turned off for the non-speaking party. So fortunately that won't be an issue this time.

If that’s true, that’ll be a game changer.

Can we just blow up the stage when both are on it?

If you're referring to Trump's butthole, then yes. It will be a given.

Biden has thrown away the republic by running again when he had promised to be a one term president.

Got a source for that?

Commenter is incorrect that he promised, instead he just strongly implied that he would stop at 1 term.

While the option of making a public pledge remains available, Biden has for now settled on an alternative strategy: quietly indicating that he will almost certainly not run for a second term while declining to make a promise

According to four people who regularly talk to Biden, all of whom asked for anonymity to discuss internal campaign matters, it is virtually inconceivable that he will run for reelection in 2024, when he would be the first octogenarian president.

“If Biden is elected,” a prominent adviser to the campaign said, “he’s going to be 82 years old in four years and he won’t be running for reelection.”

Biden signals to aides that he would serve only a single term -Politico

Yeah that's what I was getting at. I wouldn't count an unknown advisor making that suggestion as anywhere near Biden promising to be a one term president.

And to be fair, I wish they would have lined up someone else 2 years ago. But they didn't, and Biden hasn't done nearly as bad a job as many think he has so I think he's earned a 2nd term. Hopefully we can send him an actually Democratic Congress and get some good shit done the next 4 years.

And that's exactly the benefit of having your aides leak answers instead of answering questions directly.

The Biden team leaks "one term president" to quell the narrative about his age. This creates a news cycle so that a slice of the electorate, people like commenter Bipta, are led to believe it's a promise.

But theres a tiny amount of plausible deniability so that people like you can come in after the fact and mischaracterize it as "an unknown advisor" (the story quotes 4 high level advisors, which is a very high bar for these types of leaks) and then dismiss the story as if it was just a rumor.

people like you can come in after the fact and mischaracterize it as "an unknown advisor"

OC presented their statement as fact when it was actually an unconfirmed leak, and I'm the one mischaracterizing stuff? C'mon. I'm not blaming the OC, they were wrong and got corrected. You want to argued about how accurate the leak is that's fine, Biden still never promised to be a one term president and making that claim is inaccurate.

Why are you just making up things up?