I don't think my lurking counts as breaking the rules, I'm just fulfilling my commitment late.
Thankfully corporations aren't people.
Amazing how many don't get that.
Pretty sure the US law doesn't even understand that. Don't they have 2nd amendament rights?
Citizens united and some other cases mean that:
Cooperations have first amendment rights
Donating money is a form of speech protected by the first amendment
therefore bribery is legal as long as it goes through PACs and is not obviously quid pro quo
They don't have the right to emancipation though. Like they are literally chattel. Weird how that part of personhood was overlooked, almost like the law was made ad-hoc to give their owners as much power as possible and not according to any real set of principles.
Corporate personhood is mostly for convenience. Otherwise a company would need an individual to buy and sell corporate property, and they would have to rearrange stuff like that whenever that person dies, retires, or does something else that restricts property use. And it means an individual wouldn't be able to be a tyrant for everyone else working at the company just because everything is in their name.
Importantly, it makes it much easier for customers to sue, since they only need to show the company wronged them in some way rather than an individual being personally responsible. Usually they would have no way of knowing who makes which decisions and has which responsibilities, and by suing the company as a whole. they don't have to. The same applies for governments, police departments, school boards, etc.
Then why does Delaware keep giving them the right to vote?
If it's just for convenience then why were they given the right to speech which also happens to be a right to financial participation in the electoral process? You don't need those things to run a business, but you absolutely can use them to accelerate the corruption of society.
For free speech, that would be similar. A company can have a social media account or make broadcasts or advertisements, and having to have an individual as a proxy would just be cumbersome. And yes, that includes things like lobbying. Otherwise, you could have a company pay for private individuals for the service of lobbying on their behalf and essentially have no cap or regulation. Formalizing what they are allowed to do also allows you to go after them for things they aren't, again without needing to prove individual culpability. And if we decide they have too much influence in politics, it gives us a lever to pull to reign them in.
Otherwise, you could have a company pay for private individuals for the service of lobbying on their behalf and essentially have no cap or regulation.
Or how about this: lobbying should be tightly regulated so that nobody has the amount of influence that corporations currently have.
And if we decide they have too much influence in politics, it gives us a lever to pull to reign them in.
That is never going to happen, because they have too much influence in politics.
In Delaware they do have the right to vote in certain municipalities.
what the fuck
Idk about that but they can for sure vote in some US cities.
How many people? Or corporations? Or did you mean politicians?
Twitter didn't even want to change its name, that was forced on it by its abusive owner.
Speaking of abusive owner, I saw a Cybertruck in the wild for the first time today. Pictures and videos don't do justice to how fucking atrocious those things are.
ME TOO! Yeah, it honestly doesn't look real.
Am I really the only one who likes that design?
It looks futuristic.
Seems that way, looks like ps1 car graphics
Because most other cars have become too similar and round.
I personally don't like it, but I also think it could've looked better. The preproduction model they showed off had way better proportions compared to the final product, it actually looked like a car from a video game
They seriously look like something Orange County Choppers would make to celebrate the fiftieth anniversary for a commercial stove manufacturer.
I did as well. My housemate that was with me asked if Tesla was doing some sort of promotion where people could just drive the things around. She didn't believe anyone would willingly buy something that looks like it was made for a '70s sci Fi C-movie.
You're correct that videos and pics don't manage to capture the true hideousness of that thing. Can't wait for the lawsuits when someone inevitably runs into a pedestrian with that front wedge. It's also weirdly smaller than I expected it to be. The one I saw parked next to a crossover car/SUV and was barely bigger than that thing.
Small brain: Calling it X
Big brain: Calling it twitter
Galaxy brain: Not acknowledging that shithole at all
Free and open source brain: referring to the platform as Nitter
the only way to get it to work now iirc is to have it puppet actual accounts rather than guest accounts so it's a bit harder to do, but privacydevel made a fork that can do that
I see, thanks for the info.
But he can start paying me if he wants me to call it X or whatever. I'd do so. For some $8 a day.
That's a deal at twice the price.
I just deadname buildings. Anyone been up the Sears Tower lately?
What you talking about Willis?
Truth is I still call it the Sears Tower as well.
I absolutely love that he played himself in Avenue Q before he died
Rose garden represent.
not lately, no. I should go back there lol
Fucking fuck yes
Deadnaming Corporations-In-General: chef's kiss
Corporations β people. I don't care what SCOTUS has to say on the matter. They have proven themselves to be illegitimate
Iβve been known to deadname the one true church. Joseph Smith named it the Church of Christ, but the Mormon church is going through its little phase π and insists on being called, and get this, no abbreviations allowed,
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
I got supremely lucky one day when they knocked on my door. I happened to be in the middle of carving up a full beef tenderloin flank into filets and tips, and was expecting company, so I didn't bother cleaning up, putting on a shirt, or even putting the butchers knife down.
So what they got to see was a 6'3" blonde haired, blue eyed, viking looking fucker open the door in shorts with blood covering my arms and the hand I was holding the knife in, (I took the time to wipe off one hand with wipes, dont want blood everywhere), who promptly yelled over his shoulder, "Hey guys you can let the goat go! I just found us a couple of virgins!"
They scarpered quickly.
Umm. I think you misspelled shitter
His momma name him Clay imma call him Clay.
I'll be long gone before I start calling it "X"
I will happily call it 'X' because it is a stupid name and one of the dumbest decisions Elon has made and tried to enforce. Why are we trying to protect him from his stupidity?
I will say that if the old name was racist, stop fucking using it. The Washington Commanders, Cleveland Guardians, etc.
Otherwise, fuck 'em.
your meds
Iβve been referring to it as βx formally known as twitter.comβ every time I say it for months now.
Thankfully corporations aren't people.
Amazing how many don't get that.
Pretty sure the US law doesn't even understand that. Don't they have 2nd amendament rights?
Citizens united and some other cases mean that:
They don't have the right to emancipation though. Like they are literally chattel. Weird how that part of personhood was overlooked, almost like the law was made ad-hoc to give their owners as much power as possible and not according to any real set of principles.
Corporate personhood is mostly for convenience. Otherwise a company would need an individual to buy and sell corporate property, and they would have to rearrange stuff like that whenever that person dies, retires, or does something else that restricts property use. And it means an individual wouldn't be able to be a tyrant for everyone else working at the company just because everything is in their name.
Importantly, it makes it much easier for customers to sue, since they only need to show the company wronged them in some way rather than an individual being personally responsible. Usually they would have no way of knowing who makes which decisions and has which responsibilities, and by suing the company as a whole. they don't have to. The same applies for governments, police departments, school boards, etc.
Then why does Delaware keep giving them the right to vote?
If it's just for convenience then why were they given the right to speech which also happens to be a right to financial participation in the electoral process? You don't need those things to run a business, but you absolutely can use them to accelerate the corruption of society.
For free speech, that would be similar. A company can have a social media account or make broadcasts or advertisements, and having to have an individual as a proxy would just be cumbersome. And yes, that includes things like lobbying. Otherwise, you could have a company pay for private individuals for the service of lobbying on their behalf and essentially have no cap or regulation. Formalizing what they are allowed to do also allows you to go after them for things they aren't, again without needing to prove individual culpability. And if we decide they have too much influence in politics, it gives us a lever to pull to reign them in.
Or how about this: lobbying should be tightly regulated so that nobody has the amount of influence that corporations currently have.
That is never going to happen, because they have too much influence in politics.
In Delaware they do have the right to vote in certain municipalities.
what the fuck
Idk about that but they can for sure vote in some US cities.
How many people? Or corporations? Or did you mean politicians?
Twitter didn't even want to change its name, that was forced on it by its abusive owner.
Speaking of abusive owner, I saw a Cybertruck in the wild for the first time today. Pictures and videos don't do justice to how fucking atrocious those things are.
ME TOO! Yeah, it honestly doesn't look real.
Am I really the only one who likes that design?
It looks futuristic.
Seems that way, looks like ps1 car graphics
Because most other cars have become too similar and round.
I personally don't like it, but I also think it could've looked better. The preproduction model they showed off had way better proportions compared to the final product, it actually looked like a car from a video game
They seriously look like something Orange County Choppers would make to celebrate the fiftieth anniversary for a commercial stove manufacturer.
I did as well. My housemate that was with me asked if Tesla was doing some sort of promotion where people could just drive the things around. She didn't believe anyone would willingly buy something that looks like it was made for a '70s sci Fi C-movie.
You're correct that videos and pics don't manage to capture the true hideousness of that thing. Can't wait for the lawsuits when someone inevitably runs into a pedestrian with that front wedge. It's also weirdly smaller than I expected it to be. The one I saw parked next to a crossover car/SUV and was barely bigger than that thing.
Small brain: Calling it X
Big brain: Calling it twitter
Galaxy brain: Not acknowledging that shithole at all
Free and open source brain: referring to the platform as Nitter
Nitter is dead though, right?
https://nitter.poast.org still works
the only way to get it to work now iirc is to have it puppet actual accounts rather than guest accounts so it's a bit harder to do, but privacydevel made a fork that can do that
I see, thanks for the info.
But he can start paying me if he wants me to call it X or whatever. I'd do so. For some $8 a day.
That's a deal at twice the price.
I just deadname buildings. Anyone been up the Sears Tower lately?
What you talking about Willis?
Truth is I still call it the Sears Tower as well.
I absolutely love that he played himself in Avenue Q before he died
Rose garden represent.
not lately, no. I should go back there lol
Fucking fuck yes
Deadnaming Corporations-In-General: chef's kiss
Corporations β people. I don't care what SCOTUS has to say on the matter. They have proven themselves to be illegitimate
Iβve been known to deadname the one true church. Joseph Smith named it the Church of Christ, but the Mormon church is going through its little phase π and insists on being called, and get this, no abbreviations allowed,
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
I got supremely lucky one day when they knocked on my door. I happened to be in the middle of carving up a full beef tenderloin flank into filets and tips, and was expecting company, so I didn't bother cleaning up, putting on a shirt, or even putting the butchers knife down.
So what they got to see was a 6'3" blonde haired, blue eyed, viking looking fucker open the door in shorts with blood covering my arms and the hand I was holding the knife in, (I took the time to wipe off one hand with wipes, dont want blood everywhere), who promptly yelled over his shoulder, "Hey guys you can let the goat go! I just found us a couple of virgins!"
They scarpered quickly.
Umm. I think you misspelled shitter
His momma name him Clay imma call him Clay.
I'll be long gone before I start calling it "X"
I will happily call it 'X' because it is a stupid name and one of the dumbest decisions Elon has made and tried to enforce. Why are we trying to protect him from his stupidity?
I will say that if the old name was racist, stop fucking using it. The Washington Commanders, Cleveland Guardians, etc.
Otherwise, fuck 'em.
your meds
Iβve been referring to it as βx formally known as twitter.comβ every time I say it for months now.
What is a rule