I remember this. Fuck that guy. Make an example of him. I know the family said they don’t want to ruin his life. Let the prosecutor do it. Bigots have no space in a civilized society.
I thought this guy was a high schooler at most, but a 20 year old college student?
Fuck that. Actions have consequences. He's more than old enough to make his own choices and be held accountable to them.
On the upside at least I guess, now whenever someone googles this guy, this story will come up. So long as HR departments do this, he's fucked.
Would be funny if this guy was found out to be closeted the whole time.
"they don't want to ruin his life" like the judge who gave Brock the rapist Turner a 6 month sentence for raping a woman because a long prison time could ruin his life.
He was obviously willing to waive his tallywhacker around in front of a queer person’s security camera…
He’s still homophobic, but once he meets the right guy… ?
Maybe I’m just an optimist. Dude's still a dick.
Sadly, there's a lot of self-hating homophobes out there. I wish they could just be themselves and be happy, rather than feeling the need to hate other people because their fantasy novel or whatever told them to.
Edit: Also, that book says not to judge other people, so they aren't even following it correctly.
My gay friend said he's a DL power bottom high off delusions & insecurity 😅... he'll "come out" soon enough🤣
Let's be real he's an aggressive bully. In some places you might be able to make the point that he's a terrorist.
Of all the f****** innocent people that walk up to a door and get shot in the face, The first time somebody does something that remotely deserves it...
Those are synonymous. What's your point?
connotation matters. anti-LGBTQ sounds like a political stance, homophobic makes it clear there's hatred and a willingness to deprive people of human rights there.
What do you think politics are? A willingness to deprive people of human rights, that's politics. "Human Rights" is politics. I agree that its important to take complex concepts apart and study them so they can be understood, but you have to put them back together, otherwise you can't tell that these gears and belts and levers and pulleys are actually a machine with a function
To be frank, "anti LGBT" sounds more extreme to me than "homophobia." I don't see this as watering down hatred.
Homophobic feeds into the gay panic theory that people who killed gay men were only doing so out of panicing and not hate crime enthusiasm.
I'm not saying don't use it, it really isn't a big deal at all, but correcting people who feel it's a misnomer isn't necessary either.
Is this not the type of action that has put others on the sex offender registry?
I guess that depends on the state. Taking a piss in this state is protected as a necessary biological function. Even when committing an act of vandalism. So at most here he would get the vandalism charge. Case in point years ago a Hispanic man who was very drunk entered a typical for the time all white church asking to use the restroom. They were very rude to him so he took a piss right there in the center aisle. He was arrested and charged with several things. One of them being indecent exposure. His lawyer got all of it thrown out using a very old law that states that you can't prevent someone from performing a basic biological act. Its one case where somehow this backward ass state got something right. Probably by accident.
That guy's based, but it's honestly kinda shocking there's nothing stopping you from just intentionally taking a leak in the middle of the floor
Nothing is stopping anyone from shunning you if you do. Just because you can't be convicted doesn't mean you will skate through with no consequences.
Public urination can if fact make you a registered sex offender.
The alleged vandalism took place on the night of Thursday, February 8, in the Weinland Park neighborhood of Columbus, Ohio. Video from the family’s front door surveillance camera shows the vandal pulling down his pants and urinating on the flag while repeatedly saying, “F**k the gays.” The vandal then extended his middle finger towards the house and hit its front door twice before running away with a male friend who had recorded the crime on his cell phone.
Damn they even got video evidence, how convenient.
He wants to fuck gays huh?
It's always projection with these kinds of people.
*shows penis
The perpetrator deserves to be punished. I’m not arguing against punishing him. I’m arguing against rewarding him.
Just how small was his penis🤏.. who knew it was even smaller than his brain🧠🫤. They shouldn't concern themselves with "ruining his life" bring back CONSEQUENCES, COUTH, and SHAME. He could have at least been well endowed to lighten the blow 🤣
What are the chance the student is closet gay? Pretty good I'd say.
'News'
What? Isn’t this just a crazy guy who is not at all worth a thought, much less our attention? Why does this loser matter? Why is this at all even slightly newsworthy?
Presenting these assholes suffering consequences is an important part of normalizing not being an incel POS. At least that is the theory as I have had it presented.
There was a family that was victim to a hate crime as well, not just the perpetrator. If this happened to me I would feel awful if the general response was to ignore what happened.
You're honestly asking why a bigot fucking around with a pride flag and finding out during Pride Month matters?
For the same reason it would matter if they were pissing on a portrait of Dr. King on Juneteenth.
My point was just that given a large enough population you can always find idiots who do outrageous things for attention. I think denying them attention makes it less likely that others follow in their footsteps.
Denying them attention means that others don't know that it's wrong.
There's a reason why we tell people what's right and what's wrong.
The real wrong that people need to be educated on is that respect for the human rights of others is not a “political opinion”.
Anyone who doesn’t know that urinating on others’ property (without their consent) is wrong has something so severely broken in them that public shaming can’t fix it.
And yet many, many people don't seem to understand that being bigoted against queer people is wrong.
How do you propose we show that to people without pointing out the wrong that's being done?
Let’s make sure everyone knows the stories of queer heroes, like Alan Turing, a titan of computer science, information theory, and cryptography whose efforts helped save the world at one of its darkest hours.
…who was then so severely persecuted because he was gay that he wound up in an early grave.
How do you do that properly without talking about the ways in which he was persecuted, the thing you think should not be given attention to?
I absolutely think everyone should know that Turing was betrayed by scoundrels which led to his arrest for the crime of being himself (it was illegal to be gay at that time in the UK). After that he couldn’t get a job, despite being the best ever in the world at his job. After that, he fell into hopelessness and took his own life.
That was far from the only way Turing was persecuted.
It sounds like you need to learn more about Turing. Either that or you think that was the only type of persecution that mattered. I hope the former.
I didn’t mean to imply that those were the only acts of persecution committed against him.
And about the flag pisser: What he did was wrong. It was a hate crime. It is appropriate that he is punished for it. Peoples’ outrage about it is justified.
What he did was wrong. It was a hate crime. It is appropriate that he is punished for it. Peoples’ outrage about it is justified.
Very few people here on Lemmy would disagree with you. The problem is that there are a lot of people in this world who would. And those are the people who need to be reached by explaining that yes, this is a hate crime and yes, you will get punished for it no matter how you feel about queer people.
Because honestly, you'll never succeed in getting rid of all the hate. Just ask any person of color. But you sure as hell can let people know what happens if you fuck with someone who is gay or trans or black or Muslim or whatever because of who they are.
I remember this. Fuck that guy. Make an example of him. I know the family said they don’t want to ruin his life. Let the prosecutor do it. Bigots have no space in a civilized society.
I thought this guy was a high schooler at most, but a 20 year old college student?
Fuck that. Actions have consequences. He's more than old enough to make his own choices and be held accountable to them.
On the upside at least I guess, now whenever someone googles this guy, this story will come up. So long as HR departments do this, he's fucked.
Would be funny if this guy was found out to be closeted the whole time.
"they don't want to ruin his life" like the judge who gave Brock the rapist Turner a 6 month sentence for raping a woman because a long prison time could ruin his life.
He's not "anti-lgbt" he's homophobic
…however….
He was obviously willing to waive his tallywhacker around in front of a queer person’s security camera…
He’s still homophobic, but once he meets the right guy… ?
Maybe I’m just an optimist. Dude's still a dick.
Sadly, there's a lot of self-hating homophobes out there. I wish they could just be themselves and be happy, rather than feeling the need to hate other people because their fantasy novel or whatever told them to.
Edit: Also, that book says not to judge other people, so they aren't even following it correctly.
My gay friend said he's a DL power bottom high off delusions & insecurity 😅... he'll "come out" soon enough🤣
Let's be real he's an aggressive bully. In some places you might be able to make the point that he's a terrorist.
Of all the f****** innocent people that walk up to a door and get shot in the face, The first time somebody does something that remotely deserves it...
Those are synonymous. What's your point?
connotation matters. anti-LGBTQ sounds like a political stance, homophobic makes it clear there's hatred and a willingness to deprive people of human rights there.
What do you think politics are? A willingness to deprive people of human rights, that's politics. "Human Rights" is politics. I agree that its important to take complex concepts apart and study them so they can be understood, but you have to put them back together, otherwise you can't tell that these gears and belts and levers and pulleys are actually a machine with a function
To be frank, "anti LGBT" sounds more extreme to me than "homophobia." I don't see this as watering down hatred.
Homophobic feeds into the gay panic theory that people who killed gay men were only doing so out of panicing and not hate crime enthusiasm.
I'm not saying don't use it, it really isn't a big deal at all, but correcting people who feel it's a misnomer isn't necessary either.
Is this not the type of action that has put others on the sex offender registry?
I guess that depends on the state. Taking a piss in this state is protected as a necessary biological function. Even when committing an act of vandalism. So at most here he would get the vandalism charge. Case in point years ago a Hispanic man who was very drunk entered a typical for the time all white church asking to use the restroom. They were very rude to him so he took a piss right there in the center aisle. He was arrested and charged with several things. One of them being indecent exposure. His lawyer got all of it thrown out using a very old law that states that you can't prevent someone from performing a basic biological act. Its one case where somehow this backward ass state got something right. Probably by accident.
That guy's based, but it's honestly kinda shocking there's nothing stopping you from just intentionally taking a leak in the middle of the floor
Nothing is stopping anyone from shunning you if you do. Just because you can't be convicted doesn't mean you will skate through with no consequences.
Public urination can if fact make you a registered sex offender.
Damn they even got video evidence, how convenient.
He wants to fuck gays huh?
It's always projection with these kinds of people.
*shows penis
The perpetrator deserves to be punished. I’m not arguing against punishing him. I’m arguing against rewarding him.
Just how small was his penis🤏.. who knew it was even smaller than his brain🧠🫤. They shouldn't concern themselves with "ruining his life" bring back CONSEQUENCES, COUTH, and SHAME. He could have at least been well endowed to lighten the blow 🤣
What are the chance the student is closet gay? Pretty good I'd say.
'News'
What? Isn’t this just a crazy guy who is not at all worth a thought, much less our attention? Why does this loser matter? Why is this at all even slightly newsworthy?
Presenting these assholes suffering consequences is an important part of normalizing not being an incel POS. At least that is the theory as I have had it presented.
There was a family that was victim to a hate crime as well, not just the perpetrator. If this happened to me I would feel awful if the general response was to ignore what happened.
You're honestly asking why a bigot fucking around with a pride flag and finding out during Pride Month matters?
For the same reason it would matter if they were pissing on a portrait of Dr. King on Juneteenth.
My point was just that given a large enough population you can always find idiots who do outrageous things for attention. I think denying them attention makes it less likely that others follow in their footsteps.
Denying them attention means that others don't know that it's wrong.
There's a reason why we tell people what's right and what's wrong.
The real wrong that people need to be educated on is that respect for the human rights of others is not a “political opinion”.
Anyone who doesn’t know that urinating on others’ property (without their consent) is wrong has something so severely broken in them that public shaming can’t fix it.
And yet many, many people don't seem to understand that being bigoted against queer people is wrong.
How do you propose we show that to people without pointing out the wrong that's being done?
Let’s make sure everyone knows the stories of queer heroes, like Alan Turing, a titan of computer science, information theory, and cryptography whose efforts helped save the world at one of its darkest hours.
…who was then so severely persecuted because he was gay that he wound up in an early grave.
How do you do that properly without talking about the ways in which he was persecuted, the thing you think should not be given attention to?
I absolutely think everyone should know that Turing was betrayed by scoundrels which led to his arrest for the crime of being himself (it was illegal to be gay at that time in the UK). After that he couldn’t get a job, despite being the best ever in the world at his job. After that, he fell into hopelessness and took his own life.
That was far from the only way Turing was persecuted.
It sounds like you need to learn more about Turing. Either that or you think that was the only type of persecution that mattered. I hope the former.
I didn’t mean to imply that those were the only acts of persecution committed against him.
And about the flag pisser: What he did was wrong. It was a hate crime. It is appropriate that he is punished for it. Peoples’ outrage about it is justified.
Very few people here on Lemmy would disagree with you. The problem is that there are a lot of people in this world who would. And those are the people who need to be reached by explaining that yes, this is a hate crime and yes, you will get punished for it no matter how you feel about queer people.
Because honestly, you'll never succeed in getting rid of all the hate. Just ask any person of color. But you sure as hell can let people know what happens if you fuck with someone who is gay or trans or black or Muslim or whatever because of who they are.
Pride month is in February?
Pride month is June, which isn't in February.
You might be thinking of LGBT History Month :)
Do you have a source? I'm pretty sure June is in February.
Right, but this incident occurred in February. Like it says in the article.
Maybe he FA in February, and FO in June?
If only there were stone kind of article with that info...
Man you’ve gotta lighten up
Okay
If he just pissed on some public property or business i would agree, but this is a targeted thing and not a victimless crime.
Are you asking why we convict people that commit hate crimes?