Harris' candidacy has led to surge in Black voter enthusiasm. It could make a difference in swing states - ABC News

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Harris' candidacy has led to surge in Black voter enthusiasm. It could make a difference in swing states
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"Enthusiasm" has always been a "flex" for GOP these recent elections.

Is that similar to a noise meter at events?

The enthusiasm equals 2 football fields plus 6 cubits.

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Black people going to save America, again.

Funny how that keeps both happening and needing to happen. Its almost like founding a country steeped in racism may have consequences and we should restructure basically everything

What I most love about all this is the reclamation of the word, "Freedom." This is some seriously powerful symbolism out of the gate that only a black woman could really seize on. Privileged white boys like myself have no comprehension of the true meaning of this term like a black woman.

Especially in the backdrop of Freedom of Choice for a woman.

This just hit me hard, and I love it.

Black people, women and young people are going to save this country if they vote, if they can vote, that is. Tell everyone to check their voter registration monthly.
Lately, people are being removed from voter registration lists for any number of reason - wonder why.

My state allows you to register at the location of voting, the day of. That's how I've always done it. And how I intend to again.

You can toss them back under the bus the day after the election

Mwah ha ha! They'll help us elect another black president for nothing in return!

Harris's candidacy has led to a surge in my enthusiasm, and I'm an old white lady.

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Is that similar to a noise meter at events?

It’s a measure of whether folks in black areas in swing states have the energy and will to fight voter rolls purges, poll closures, spurious ID requirements, long lines and all the other voter suppression tactics that the so-called Supreme Court has been allowing since gutting the VRA.

So yes, it matters.

A reminder that in Florida in 2000, Republicans were experimenting with these disenfranchisement tactics (roll purges, closing polling stations, convenient road blockages in cities, the works). They won that state* by a few hundred votes in key districts, and these dirty tactics became a mainstay for the party. And that was before the SCOTUS basically said "racism is over, these voter protection laws are unnecessary now". Every vote counts, especially where they've made it difficult to do so.

* Gore probably would have won Florida, and thus the presidency, if the SCOTUS didn't halt the recount - in large part due to Roger Stone, one of the biggest pushers of dirty tactics. There are a small number of people who have caused a great deal of harm in this country.

What instrument is used to measure this?

Is it tied to the atomic clock?
Or whether the moon is in Virgo, with a salivating Aquarius?

eta: lol, dogpile!

Data?
Anyone?

if you're asking what mechanism could be used to quantify "voter enthusiasm", a poll of "do you intend to vote in this election" seems like a pretty easy and obvious answer

Except maga has touted "enthusiasm" for 8 years.

What are they measuring?
Where's the data?

New voter registrations after a particular event.

You could also read the article you posted?

Formed in 2020, Win With Black Women has met by Zoom most Sundays for almost four years, drawing hundreds of attendees and support from names like Oprah Winfrey and Dionne Warwick. But Eaddy said they had never had a call anything like this past Sunday's, which drew tens of thousands of viewers, raised more than $2 million for the just-launched Harris campaign, and inspired a similar call led by Black men the next night that raised $1.3 million more for Harris' campaign.

"As someone who's done a lot of fundraising, I've never raised $1.3 million over three or four hours from grassroots donors, I've never seen that kind of momentum," James said. "The energy is inspiring. Each one of those people on the call can organize 10 people or 100 people, and we hope to mobilize all of them."

Although there are few polls out that have data to fully capture this moment, Harris is already seeing significantly higher numbers in favorability with Black voters. Black voters in April or June who split 70% for Biden to 23% for Trump in previous polling, now break 78% for Harris to 15% for Trump, according to a CNN/SSRS released on Wednesday.

Does maga use the same enthusiasm data?

What was the enthusiasm measurement in 2020 vs. today?

What's the metric?

Fuck knows, go find out yourself.

Sorry I hurt you so badly.

Why are you like this? Try and put your thoughts into a coherent point instead of just asking a bunch of inane questions.

Is your point that you think 'enthusiasm' is a made up metric? Ok, cool, great job, you cracked politics.

Why are you like this?

Why are you concerned about me?
What's wrong with you?

I'm allowed to be concerned about you. We're all internet strangers, and your way of talking to people is obviously rubbing people the wrong way.

It's also obviously not rubbing people the wrong way.

You're also rubbing people the wrong way.
Why can't you look after yourself, first?

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i'm not sure national elections of a world superpower are followed on precisely the same level as attack on titan readership

No data.
No metric.

But it's up!!!
Feelings!!

it's genuinely fascinating to me that you think manga readership is equivalent to voting

like, it's so strangely specific

is manga and the us election the only thing going on in your life?

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In Trump's case it is usually to do with his own inflated claims of rally attendance rather than any firm polling data. Donny really knows how to inflame his base, but his party's consistent underperformance in by-year elections suggests that doesn't translate into general election success.

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Do you know what enthusiasm means? The article you linked has a number of examples of what data might lead someone to believe in the increased enthusiasm. Did you read it?

Yet, zero data. Just condescension.

You simply can't do better.

You're my new idol.

Good lord, you posted the freaking article and now you get shirty when people tell you to read it to answer your own damn question? That's just weird.

I asked, specifically in the post, what the metric is.

What was the enthusiasm index at this point in 2020?

What are the metrics used?

It's fluff. Sorry I caused your outrage.
That's weird.

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lol can you imagine if her nomination leads to winning a bunch of states in the south that are considered “safe red” these days? That’d be wild. I know there are obstacles to that happening but still.

Can you imagine Kamala Harris taking Florida, Texas, or (gasp) Alabama? George Fucking Wallace would rise from the grave just so he could try to obstruct progress a little bit more.

Stop with these fantasies, I can only get so erect.

Looks like Georgia is back on the menu boys! ATL about to ride

Looks like Georgia is back on the menu boys! ATL about to ride

Look at Atlanta and then look at the rest of the south today, burning things down works!

I've been saying this since Friday.

I have reason to think Florida is in play.

I think all Hispanic Americans have to bring a translated "Projeto 2025" in front of the people in Florida. Some xenophobic Cubans in Miami want to pull up the ladder behind them. In the report, there is a focus on de-naturalization if they detect fraud (p. 144). Chances are they will twist it to prosecute people with certain skin colours in particular and MAGA doesn't care if you had left your country of birth 40 years ago or yesterday. It also mentions de-prioritize processing speed of even legitimate cases held by their friends and family (p.144).

Wild levels of hopium.

North Carolina maybe. Georgia and Pennsylvania again are going to be tough but reasonable to hope for.

But Florida? Ronda won with 60% of the vote 2 years ago. Winning counties that had been traditionally blue.

Florida continues to skew older and is accelerating in average age. Mass migration of retired Boomers continues to push the state harder conservative. They're on pace for 1/3rd of the adults to be older than 65 in a couple years. It was 1/4 not that long ago.

Number of registered Republicans has recovered since the pandemic. Is now nearly 1M above Democrats.

Oh dont get me wrong. Until I finish the work I have on my plate and can really dig into the data, its pure hopium.

I was only able to run some very preliminary stats, but in the aggregate, a move in votership of 3-5% might be plenty. It was less of a difference than that which put Obama in the white house.

But plenty doesn't matter; where plenty happens is what matters.

When Obama was running Dems were 38% of registered voters. Republicans were at 34%.

Florida has changed a lot since then. The first big wave of Boomer retirements hit in 2011. They've been piling into Florida for the past decade. Republicans now sit at 40% while Dems are at 32%.

Covid also boosted Republican moves to Florida for their lax laws and "freedom".

What’s your reasoning? Seems like this is never gonna happen.

I am still at work and wont get to this till the weekend, but I was running some aggregate statistics looking at '12, '16, and '20 at the precinct level.

I have the data pulled, but I need to aggregate it.

Effectively, I'm looking at demographic shifts and mapping them to outcomes. I have the data, I just need to do it.

I gotta say, it's weird seeing how much the US brings race and gender into stuff in 2024. Like, whether good or bad, massive cohorts produce outcome based on that.

Whether someone's claiming "I'm left" or "I'm right", It's all like stepping back in time. It's a really weird, fragmented country and much of those involved are too focused on the other "side" to realise they're part of the core problem too, simply by being stuck in and fueling that 'us' and 'them' thinking which holds it so far back from actual progress.