Which side are you placing your bets on?

Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world – 232 points –
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Placing my bets on it being a mistake or flatout lies.

But hoping for real and reproducible

It's crazy how in the past 5 years my faith in not only American government, but pretty much all of humanity has gone to nearly zero.

It's like that "oh really" Willy Wonka meme.

Not all humans, but most of humanity yeah

I keep hoping we’ll get off this planet and seed others so people can stop bickering and shooting over land lines on the same rock, but it’s getting harder and harder to find people willing to work for the greater good (not that one) and move forward as a species.

The greater good

We just gotta get rid of those crusty jugglers and then Sandford will be great again!

The fact I put a disclaimer in and you all still went right to Cornetto…that’s the stuff that makes the interwebs fun and I’m glad to see it on Lemmy 👍

There's been tons of anti-American propaganda social media for at least eight years. The CCP and Kremlin realized they could divide Americans from within through social media.

I do agree to a point. But I also think America has organized crime issu s they hide. And that organized crime gets played out from other countries leaders.

It's not as simple as blaming Russia or America. It's all so intertwined and knotted it's almost impossible to fix. I definitely see relation between the way some Republicans strike that... Politicians and business men act that is in line with the way I've authentic crime take power. It's fucked. There's an underworld right under everyone's noses but they just don't want to believe humanity isn't as secure as their governments make them believe.

So a more pinpointed response... People are getting played by both Americans and Russians (and other countries) they use criminals and down trodden people to do their work. Same as the drug game. Get a sucker hooked on meth and make em your removed via extortion and death threats. Just looking at American politicians I can see them being so naive that they get played by criminals and they don't even understand because they grew up posh and never knew how raw the world really is.... Then they are doomed to be the removed of the mob or have their their family killed by the mob... For them they have to push the rhetoric or get themselves or their family killed.

I've seen more street life than I should have... Live is fucked to the core.

I'd like to think I'm just delusional... But life keeps proving me it's reality.

It's all "the game" as rappers say... And most of us are naive to it while we work for them or just out right enslaved by them.

None of it has been lwwr reviewed but it has been reproduced in a lab in china and it has been modelled by an American lab and has been shown to work

My money says it's not, the video didn't look like anything other than a poor magnet.

Everyone wants to hope they're living in the time of the next revolution, and I hope we are as much as anyone else, but it's not going to be "toss these 4 elements into an oven and cook". Super conductivity is going to be an extremely precisely engineered substance.

If cheaply manufactured low production cost room temperature super conductors are ever available our world will look like that within a decade. Unfortunately we are probably going to cook our planet before we get within 15 years of the above discovery

I mean, even if LK-99 turns out to be legit but insanely expensive to manufacture, that's a starting point for research on how to make it easier to manufacture.

Data storage used to be incredibly bulky and expensive. Now you can buy a chip the size of your fingernail holding hundreds of gigabytes of data for a couple ten dollars.

If they'd said I'd was insanely expensive, or time consuming, out used really specific isotopes of the elements they're using, I'd be much much more inclined to believe them.

The specificity that room temperature conductivity they're claiming to have achieved (an entirely new variety of super conductivity) by having certain atoms in certain orientation to allow for quantum tunneling, doesn't just come out of an oven after a few days of cook time, the atoms would need to be aligned, and all of the same isotope, at the masses they supposedly demonstrated the odds of it all occurring are beyond atomically small.

They wrote what was a guarantee to capture the attention of the media, cheap, extremely efficient, and very safe/easy to produce. When/if room temperature super conductivity comes it isn't fitting into all 3 of those things.

Everyone wants to hope they're living in the time of the next revolution,

Eh, we already live in the age of silicon chips, good enough for me.

Technology has advanced more in my lifetime than in the prior thousand years, we are very much in the middle of the greatest revolution in tech ever.

The fact people are often so jaded about it amazes me.

Yeaah and there are so many tech products that have only become a reality in the last 20 or so years. Robot vacuums, consumer 3D printers, LED lights, batteries that actually hold a useful enough amount of power for high power devices which actually even our phones are. Crazy that my phone is ridiculous amounts faster than the first computer I used, yet it lasts a full day on single charge. People take all of this and more for granted.

Remember the world isn't a balanced computer game. There are OP tools sometimes.

My bet is 6 months.

Less than 6 months after confirmation, someone will announce a weapon based on the technology.

If it turns out to be real, we'll learn they'd completed a weapon 6 months before the "discovery."

Oh I'm sure corporations will find some way to make tons of money at everyone else's expense. So far the future is a dystopian capitalist hell that nobody capable of affecting change is motivated to actually do so.

Think of how much longer we can make devices last!

Now think about how the manufacturers will also never let that happen.

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LK-99 is a supposed superconductor that can operate at ambient atmospheric press and below temperatures of 127°c/260°f. In other words, a room-temperature superconductor. The holy grail of conductors. A material that'd completely revolutionize literally everything. Not only that, it's made out of a lead-apatite, meaning it would potentially be relatively inexpensive to make. We could be on the edge of a new era.

AND HERE COMES THE BUTT

BUT my understanding is that attempts to replicate the experiment are currently inconclusive. There have supposedly been successful replications as well as unsuccessful attempts, however none of the papers have been peer reviewed yet. Additionally, computer simulations have given inconsistent results.

To add to this, this all burst into the news last week when some of the researchers behind LK-99 announced it just last week, and so labs around the world have been furiously trying to replicate their claimed results these past several days.

Understandably so, the paper says the material doesn't need that much energy to produce a small sample

You forgot to mention the source of this info on lk 99 is coming from Russian and Chinese sources... and in the current climate they don't have truckloads of credibility

Hey, you guys need to get out of the echo chamber every now and then. Originally discovered from a south Korean team. The experiment has been replicated by US, Chinese and Russian teams.

I'm very team skeptical, but I also like to celebrate good news and by itself. This is good news, is sort of the spirit of OP post. Once this gets out the lab what are the possibilities

Were all the replications successful? I'd heard the Chinese team claimed success but didn't show proof, the Russian team claimed their results were negative but there was supposedly evidence that they'd used the wrong material (I'm not a scientist, just repeating what I've read) and I hadn't heard anything about a US team replicating it in a lab (I'd heard there were simulations, but no lab results from US teams). Is there new info that I've missed? The fact that some simulations show similar results to the original paper makes me hopeful, but again, those are just simulations.

scientific discoveries really shouldn't be determined as good or bad based on who discovered it.

not like a superconductor can spy on you lmao

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Yeah smart everything is a Trojan horse, amazes me to see dumb people who understand nothing about tech and the importance of privacy subscribe to smart gadgets, smart homes inside smart cities commuting using computers on wheels

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Well, at least the flying cars maybe check out this time.