Toyoda

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Toyoda is the original guy's name btw

I'd definitely pick up a "Tassler". Has a fake EV charging port that you flip out of the way to fill up gas.

Or has a built in diesel generator

Oh yes. A diesel generator that charges a bank of super capacitors that run the electric motor. Every time the caps run out of juice, you have to turn on the generator and pump them up again. "Tassler. It's the journey not the destination"

Toyoda was the original name before they changed it to Toyota

It actually still is the brand of the machinery they use to manufacture Toyotas.

I always thought Hyundai was off brand Honda that got a little too popular and now likes to pretend it is its own thing.

Hyundai.

Yes, Hyundai.

Years ago I saw someone who had obviously fixed the badging on his Elantra after a repaint or accident.

He chose to spell it HUNDAY. Clearly, the set gives you all those letters, but you'd think it also gives some hint as to which order they're placed,

Lol but that's how you're supposed to pronounce it.

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Go to China, there's loads of them. Top Gear did a good segment in it years ago.

Mahindra is the Indian jeep knock off. China is all just knock off cars.

They are a thing. Many manufacturers outsource some of their production to poorer countries, these factories end up starting up their own brand and produce their own vehicles alongside those of the main manufacturer (who supplies components from engines to dashboard switchgear). For example, Dacia is a knock off Renault.

Dacia is owned by Renault. And the cars they built before Renault bought them were licensed.

Yes it is. It's still a knock off Renault, though, in contrast with relationships like VW/Seat/Audi/Skoda which is more of a conglomerate where they all have the same base models, even if some brands are seen as more premium than the others.

For the life of me I can't think of any other examples of budget brands right now. I remember one for Suzuki motorbikes that I'm pretty sure is a separate company that also manufactures Suzuki under license, but can't remember the name. I'm sure there are loads out there.

Tbf, we have a shit ton of knock off Chinese cars on the road in Vietnam, and even more knock off motorcycles.

Also, pretty much all the cars in the USSR were copies of Fiats

I don't know that I would have bought a Preeis instead of a Prius, but I'd consider it.

Neice Son, Mas? Da!, Chevre? Ole!, Key Uh, Scuba Boo

Gonna get me one of dem Furds.

I've heard the Furd Touris is really reliable... For awhile.

Bullshit... We had yugos, le car, citations, chevettes... People bought that garbage when we had it to buy, but they've figured out that a car that falls apart faster than you can pay it off isn't really a great idea. Paying half the new cost for a vehicle after 40k miles is a much better way to go.

How are any of those off-brand? The Chevette and Citation were made by GM!

Dude... My mom had a shit-vette... I was driving that fucking thing to the store one day and the clutch and brake pedals both dropped to the floorboard with a thunk...

It was definitely a Chitvreolet ;)

This used to be true when cars were reasonably priced, but these days when a base civic is 30 k, things needs to be re-evaluated.

I'd also say that car tech in general has advanced massively, so even a cheeseey car would be equivalent to top of the line of a car build in the early 2000s.

Most new cars these days are just loaded up with unnecessary bullshit, like touch screens, that's driven the cost way up. Everything is fucking computer controlled and just prone to fail and be a nightmare to service.

MSRP on base civic is 23k. Which isn't a whole lot considering how much car you get for it. Comes with a pretty nice (if a bit paranoid) driver assistance suite. Reliable, good fuel economy, pretty comfortable. My only complaints are that the CMBS and the LKAS are neurotic, if you're under 70 years old, just turn them off, and the base model doesn't have variable intermittent wipers. You get 3 speeds, Low, Medium, and High.

Prices for an equivalent model car really haven’t changed much after adjusting for inflation.

Hondas aren’t the best example because they have steadily been moving more upmarket as a brand. However, in 1991 a base model civic cost an inflation adjusted $15,600. A 2023 base model civic costs $23,750.

Another example that comes to mind is the Mazda Miata since people often complain about how sports cars have gotten too expensive and it’s the archetypal affordable sports car. A 1991 Miata cost an inflation adjusted $35,600. A 2023 Miata starts at $28,000.

I've already bought a knock off car - the Dacia jogger is just a Volvo XC90 at a 1/3rd of the cost.

This picture only shows that both of these cars have lights, a rear window and possibly rear wheels. Also they are both red

OP's comment made me look into this and I found this, https://www.autogott.de/autovergleich/dacia-jogger/volvo-xc90

It's in German, but the gist of it is, that's its basically what OP > OP was asking for lol knock offs!

The Dacia is like a Kmart version of the Volvo, but the price difference is insane, I'd buy it in a heartbeat if I could.

Note that the article is an auto-generated comparison. In my opinion these two cars aren't really comparable and are only kind of similar in terms of looks and dimensions. Everything else is pretty different. The volvo is about twice as heavy and up to three times as powerful depending on configuration and is available with allwheel drive vs just frontwheel drive fir the Dacia and far more luxurious. They appeal to a completely different class of cutomers.

Dacia are knock off Renaults. They're literally a Renault subsiduary.

Yeah, all the parts are Renault branded. The car itself I believe is built on a Clio chassis.

Yeah, there are lots of manufacturers like that. They typically start out as an overseas factory producing the main manufacturer's cars, then the factory expands into producing its own cars alongside.

Ssangyong licenses engines and transmissions from MB. They literally make ugly off-brand MBs.

Incidentally, Mercedes (diesel) engines and automatic transmissions are ridiculously durable and in a Ssangyong you can probably get it for cheaper.