In resurfaced remarks, Vance bashes teachers union president for not having 'some of her own' children

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In resurfaced remarks, Vance bashes teachers union president for not having 'some of her own' children
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If she wants to brainwash and destroy the mind of children, she should have some of her own and leave ours the hell alone,” he said

These quotes aren’t random gaffes. Vance has some bizarre, Puritanical views on women. Barefoot and pregnant kinds of views.

Trump is a clown in decline with no future. Vance is the would-be leader of the Gilead envisioned in Project 2025. Under his eye.

And he's the one insisting on not leaving the rest of us the hell alone. Projection, as usual.

It's also more projection. They are so focused on indoctrinating children that they believe Democrats must be doing it as well. Everyone must be doing it.

Please don't say Trump is in decline. Plenty of people thought Trump had no chance of winning in 2016. He is a serious threat and should be treated like one until at least 10 years after his death.

This guy is way too interested in other people's reproduction. It's fucking weird.

Like two or three generations ago, they fired female teachers who had kids. Also, he’s Catholic. I know he’s an adult convert and so mega weird — adult converts are usually just attracted to the hierarchy and lore instead of the charity and service parts — but he should at least know about nuns teaching school.

My experience is that adult converts to Catholicism mostly do so because you can't be married in a Catholic church if you're not Catholic and their spouse is Catholic. Which is to say, it's disingenuous.

This guy is way too interested in other people's children.

This guy is way too convinced that women are nothing but uteri and vaginas.

The idea is simply that the female of the species should be considered a brood mare and nothing more. More meat for the grinder. Do these people not have wives, daughters, mothers, to give them some feedback about what they’re doing wrong? I know, brainwashed. But still.

He might not even know those are different body parts. He'd probably be scared of the word vulva.

Vance when talking about other people's genitals: filling podcasts and tv interviews

Vance when talking about anything else: "how long have you been working here? ok, good."

He’s also a venture capital tech bro who has no clue how difficult it is to raise children in a teacher’s salary. Useless marketing interns in his industry make more money than teachers.

Many teachers don’t have kids because they simply can’t afford it.

What is the deal with this guy and breeding?

It’s the only reason he has sex with human women and so he’s really focused on it

To be specific, he's admitted he was "tricked" into thinking he was gay in the past. It's pretty clear he's actually gay, but he has a breeding fetish.

Yeah I gotta say, as a straight person, there was never a time I thought I was gay. If this dude thought he was gay as a teen, well, maybe it’s ok to finally come out.

I don't want personhood and citizenship to be conditional upon having a child.

It's cool how my love and support for education doesn't count because I don't have children.

I think the guy can only really plan for the future by seeing his children only as extensions of himself. Someone without children can't do that mental gymnastics so why should they care?

Ugha bugha....how brain know school need if you no have kid?

Vance walks the fine line between weird and creepy. But it's not the "Autistic kid who gets mistaken for quiet kid" creepy that I and others like me have.

It's "If I don't sniff your feet the world is coming to an end." Creepy

I'm a childless right winger what now? His brain would probably explode.

Why on earth would anyone choose to describe themselves as a "right winger" (unless you play hockey)?

Are you insanely wealthy? Or do you just hate other people and like pulling the ladder up behind you?

It's always hate.

Sort of like how atheists only disbelieve in one more God than a Christian, anti-Trump right-wingers only hate one more person than a Trump supporter.

Because I believe free market capitalism works given that the government regulates the market to avoid market failures.

That's not right wing. Do not allow right wingers to hide in the shadow of your reasonable political views by assuming their identity. Call yourself a market capitalist, a liberal, or even a Reagan-era Republican if you believe that is what your views align to and are speaking in an American context, but don't let yourselves be used to rehabilitate the image of the right wing. They will only take that as a permission structure to hold more and more heinous views while pointing at you and others like you and saying "see, we are reasonable people with serious political positions that deserve a voice at the table. They don't represent you, so why give them leverage to claim that they do?

I think the part where you're a fascist (defacto assumption by anyone self-identifying as a "right winger" in 2024) would make him accept you as an ally, even if you are childless, just as this little admission prevents me from ever accepting you as an ally, even if you are anti-Trump.

Vance's mom was so overbearing as a kid and throughout his life he has been subservient to women. He married a woman like his mom and he hates women. All the times he's willingly been emasculated by women at his request has finally come to light and now he wants revenge against mommy and he's spiraled out of control.