On the one hand, there's a lot of great metal, it's obviously not all garbage.
On the other hand, I love winding up those people who get all bent out of shape about how one or more of those genes "isn't real metal" so I kinda still appreciate the post lol.
I fuck with metal, this meme is not at all supposed to be taken at face value
Are there any genres where listeners are bigger snobs than metal?
Classical. Maybe.
Jazz probably
Might be indie rock. I'll never forget going to 4chan /mu/ and seeing a guy argue that music should be unpleasant and hard to listen to if you really care about it, because then your opinion on the "sonic experience" isn't being compromised by pleasure, citing the godawful singer of Neutral Milk Hotel as enriching the band more than a good singer would have. Called Death Grips "entry-level" music for tweens before you're ready to graduate to experimental non-melodic field recordings of harsh noise.
I can't say I agree but I think I can understand what that random 4channer was getting at.
Time by Wax Poetic Is one that I listened to on and off for months when it came out. I could never say I liked it but at times I wanted to hear it. It was never a pleasant experience, more like trying to figure out why I kept wanting to hear it.
Never seen people throw hands over if somethibg is jazz or not.
You're going to the wrong jazz clubs then
Whatever is was Yoko Ono was on about, and podcasts.
I mean crust punk definitely isn't metal...
What I've noticed is anyone who doesn't listen to extreme music calls it all death metal. It can be straight up hardcore punk but to them it's "death metal".
Great, I see that Alternative Metal and Nu Metal are in the clear.
And Grunge Metal as well
Interesting, I didn't know that was a thing.
What is grunge metal that's not better described as sludge, stoner, or doom?
Eh, the meme's talking about music after all
I love how the left is all genres of metal except at the end with the random inclusion of crust punk. You can tell the OOP really liked the genre and wanted to include it in his maymay
Up until this point I have never once heard of Crust punk.
Neither have I, and I’m glad.
It makes me think of the “crust” you’d find in the bathroom of a punk rock venue. Gross.
That’s actually pretty spot on for describing Crust Punk
Yeah. The name is surprisingly literal.
Tbf, it doesn't belong on this list
Proud garbage enjoyer
Terlet or torlet?
If you think that's bad you should see the urinus.
FuckADuck, I'd have a rewatch, I'm suprised I'm not having a re-watch right now
Why what are you drinking? — Oh it’s a Cabernet Sauvignon, 2003, with chestnut hints it’s delicious. — Me: it’s just moldy grape Juice. — no but you have to pay attention to the small nuances in the… oh.
Metal people are always like "nooo it's not all annoying noise and throaty growling, you just have to listen to X" and then X is all annoying noise and throaty growling.
Hold on a second!
I mean if you don't like metal then don't listen to it but metal has as much sub genres as the rest of the music has genres. Basically if you can think of sth there is probably a metal Version of it(idk why though)
If you want to upset metal heads then say you like Babymetal. Those japanese are crazy
If you want to upset metal heads then say you like Babymetal. Those japanese are crazy
Wtf, thanks for bringing this band into my life
If I recall correctly, Rob zombie brought them on tour and caught a lot of shit for it. Lol
If you like them you should also check out Band Maid as they have a more conventional sound.
Idk what you're talking about. Babymetal is pretty good
I'm a metalhead and I love Babymetal.
Valid
but metal has as much sub genres as the rest of the music has genres.
That's because every metal band suffers from the delusion that their sound is novel and genre defining, when more likely, it's just a tiny variation on annoying noise and throaty growling.
I do understand that growling is the part that often splits opinions and I won't act otherwise, but there's quite a lot of metal songs/bands with no growling.
I guess the conclusion that "metal is mostly just annoying noise and throaty growling" is related to what gets discussed online - in most cases the vocal part of metal fans are already in the deep end of the subgenres, so only the really heavy stuff gets mentioned. So I do understand where you're coming from, no real criticism here. :D
I guess the "less heavy" stuff is less often discussed, or just forgotten about when people are talking about "metal" as a whole:
Another random example, Jonathan Young's metal cover of Hellfire (from Disney's Notre Dame). Almost completely clean vocals, but also a bit "angry" sounding here and there.
Kardashev - Torchpassing is also one of my all-time favourites, and it's mostly clean vocals. I guess the genre of this song is questionable anyway, due to being a bit more "chill" in many parts of the song - but the faster parts are quite clearly metal. Growling is used like an "extra effect" a couple of times.
It's also perfectly fine to not enjoy any of these, just dropping them here as examples about metal songs which have a clear melody and clean vocals. :D
I do like my noise-filled growling too, though. This is one of the songs where I completely understand that vast majority of people would hate it, and anyone expecting otherwise would be delusional. I love it, but I also hate when some people act like everyone should enjoy stuff like this lmao.
Every one of those genres is so different, it's kind of wierd most of them fall under 'metal.'
Sometimes there’s shit on the outside of the torlet.
I never understood people that like metal. Some people are fascinated by this band called meshuggah and it's juste impressive body coordination by following algorithmic rules that end up sounding like random noise.
The meaningless screaming is garbage. I hate vocals and screeching at the microphone isn't better.
I personally dislike Meshugga because I don't care for gutteral screaming, but even my drunk ass isn't arrogant enough to call it garbage just because it's not to my taste.
The meaningless screaming is garbage
Read again, slowly. I didn't say meshuggah is garbage, the meaningless screaming in metal is garbage.
I hope you realize you sound like a boomer, I've literally heard my boomer mother make the same argument about different bands I listen to. If we were having this conversation a couple decades, I would expect to hear something like "Goddamn kids with their hip hop, saggy pants, and loud music"
If i sound like a bommers for not understanding how anyone can like noise as music so be it. I listen to all kind of music. Even Mongolian throat singing is somewhat melodic while metal sounds to me like noise.
You've never listened to metal then.
I'd be happy to listen to anything you'd recommend If you got something that's got at least some melodies, not someone screaming at the mic while another is hitting the drum like a maniac with some electric guitar backing it or vice versa.
Torn on this one.
On the one hand, there's a lot of great metal, it's obviously not all garbage.
On the other hand, I love winding up those people who get all bent out of shape about how one or more of those genes "isn't real metal" so I kinda still appreciate the post lol.
I fuck with metal, this meme is not at all supposed to be taken at face value
Are there any genres where listeners are bigger snobs than metal?
Classical. Maybe.
Jazz probably
Might be indie rock. I'll never forget going to 4chan /mu/ and seeing a guy argue that music should be unpleasant and hard to listen to if you really care about it, because then your opinion on the "sonic experience" isn't being compromised by pleasure, citing the godawful singer of Neutral Milk Hotel as enriching the band more than a good singer would have. Called Death Grips "entry-level" music for tweens before you're ready to graduate to experimental non-melodic field recordings of harsh noise.
I can't say I agree but I think I can understand what that random 4channer was getting at.
Time by Wax Poetic Is one that I listened to on and off for months when it came out. I could never say I liked it but at times I wanted to hear it. It was never a pleasant experience, more like trying to figure out why I kept wanting to hear it.
Never seen people throw hands over if somethibg is jazz or not.
You're going to the wrong jazz clubs then
Whatever is was Yoko Ono was on about, and podcasts.
I mean crust punk definitely isn't metal...
What I've noticed is anyone who doesn't listen to extreme music calls it all death metal. It can be straight up hardcore punk but to them it's "death metal".
Great, I see that Alternative Metal and Nu Metal are in the clear.
And Grunge Metal as well
Interesting, I didn't know that was a thing.
What is grunge metal that's not better described as sludge, stoner, or doom?
Eh, the meme's talking about music after all
I love how the left is all genres of metal except at the end with the random inclusion of crust punk. You can tell the OOP really liked the genre and wanted to include it in his maymay
Up until this point I have never once heard of Crust punk.
Neither have I, and I’m glad.
It makes me think of the “crust” you’d find in the bathroom of a punk rock venue. Gross.
That’s actually pretty spot on for describing Crust Punk
Yeah. The name is surprisingly literal.
Tbf, it doesn't belong on this list
Proud garbage enjoyer
Terlet or torlet?
If you think that's bad you should see the urinus.
FuckADuck, I'd have a rewatch, I'm suprised I'm not having a re-watch right now
I'D HAVE A REWATCH!
What happened there?
Tis a reference to Letterkenny
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I feel personally attacked
Why what are you drinking? — Oh it’s a Cabernet Sauvignon, 2003, with chestnut hints it’s delicious. — Me: it’s just moldy grape Juice. — no but you have to pay attention to the small nuances in the… oh.
Metal people are always like "nooo it's not all annoying noise and throaty growling, you just have to listen to X" and then X is all annoying noise and throaty growling.
Hold on a second!
I mean if you don't like metal then don't listen to it but metal has as much sub genres as the rest of the music has genres. Basically if you can think of sth there is probably a metal Version of it(idk why though)
If you want to upset metal heads then say you like Babymetal. Those japanese are crazy
Wtf, thanks for bringing this band into my life
If I recall correctly, Rob zombie brought them on tour and caught a lot of shit for it. Lol
If you like them you should also check out Band Maid as they have a more conventional sound.
Idk what you're talking about. Babymetal is pretty good
I'm a metalhead and I love Babymetal.
Valid
That's because every metal band suffers from the delusion that their sound is novel and genre defining, when more likely, it's just a tiny variation on annoying noise and throaty growling.
I do understand that growling is the part that often splits opinions and I won't act otherwise, but there's quite a lot of metal songs/bands with no growling.
I guess the conclusion that "metal is mostly just annoying noise and throaty growling" is related to what gets discussed online - in most cases the vocal part of metal fans are already in the deep end of the subgenres, so only the really heavy stuff gets mentioned. So I do understand where you're coming from, no real criticism here. :D
I guess the "less heavy" stuff is less often discussed, or just forgotten about when people are talking about "metal" as a whole:
As an example Nightwish is considered metal, and they have an opera singer: Nightwish - Ghost Love Score
Another random example, Jonathan Young's metal cover of Hellfire (from Disney's Notre Dame). Almost completely clean vocals, but also a bit "angry" sounding here and there.
Kardashev - Torchpassing is also one of my all-time favourites, and it's mostly clean vocals. I guess the genre of this song is questionable anyway, due to being a bit more "chill" in many parts of the song - but the faster parts are quite clearly metal. Growling is used like an "extra effect" a couple of times.
It's also perfectly fine to not enjoy any of these, just dropping them here as examples about metal songs which have a clear melody and clean vocals. :D
I do like my noise-filled growling too, though. This is one of the songs where I completely understand that vast majority of people would hate it, and anyone expecting otherwise would be delusional. I love it, but I also hate when some people act like everyone should enjoy stuff like this lmao.
Every one of those genres is so different, it's kind of wierd most of them fall under 'metal.'
Sometimes there’s shit on the outside of the torlet.
How do it get there?
I've dug this grave so many times
The dirt, exhausted as the mind
https://lemmy.world/c/metalmemes
!metalmemes@lemmy.world
Unfathomably based
I switch between both states depending on mood
I never understood people that like metal. Some people are fascinated by this band called meshuggah and it's juste impressive body coordination by following algorithmic rules that end up sounding like random noise. The meaningless screaming is garbage. I hate vocals and screeching at the microphone isn't better.
That guy probably
*definitely
I mean people eat food that taste like plastic and call it a delicacy. If that's your thing, enjoy.
I personally dislike Meshugga because I don't care for gutteral screaming, but even my drunk ass isn't arrogant enough to call it garbage just because it's not to my taste.
Read again, slowly. I didn't say meshuggah is garbage, the meaningless screaming in metal is garbage.
I hope you realize you sound like a boomer, I've literally heard my boomer mother make the same argument about different bands I listen to. If we were having this conversation a couple decades, I would expect to hear something like "Goddamn kids with their hip hop, saggy pants, and loud music"
If i sound like a bommers for not understanding how anyone can like noise as music so be it. I listen to all kind of music. Even Mongolian throat singing is somewhat melodic while metal sounds to me like noise.
You've never listened to metal then.
I'd be happy to listen to anything you'd recommend If you got something that's got at least some melodies, not someone screaming at the mic while another is hitting the drum like a maniac with some electric guitar backing it or vice versa.