What Are Some Great Films Not Adapted from Books?

puppy@lemmy.world to Asklemmy@lemmy.ml – 71 points –

When films are adapted from books, more often than not, I tend to find the books a lot more enjoyable. So I have skipped watching a lot of films in the hope of reading the books later.

So what are some great films not adapted from books? Or what are some films that are significantly better than the book they were adapted from?

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Christopher Nolan has done some good big movies not based on existing book or IP: Memento, Inception, Interstellar, and Tenet.

Interstellar is in my top 5 favorite movies. Fuckin' blew my mind the first time I saw it.

It's maybe the best theater movie I've ever seen.

It's just completely overwhelming in that setting.

Anything by Martin McDonagh, especially

  • In Bruges
  • Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
  • The Banshees of Inisherin

Also, just thought of some others that aren't based on books but have quite a literary feel:

  • Tár
  • The VVitch
  • There Will Be Blood

There Will Be Blood is loosely based on Upton Sinclair’s “Oil”

Thanks for the heads-up, I wasn't aware of that.

I'll still keep it on the list as it's an amazing movie anyway 😄

  • Pulp Fiction
  • Donnie Darko
  • The Big Lebowski
  • The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou
  • In Bruges
  • The Matrix
  • Monty Python and the Holy Grail
  • Ocean's Eleven
  • Indiana Jones original trilogy
  • Get Out
  • Bladerunner (a book, apparently)
  • Bladerunner 2049
  • 28 Days Later
  • American Beauty
  • The Usual Suspects
  • Gladiator
  • Schindler's List (also a book??)
  • Saving Private Ryan
  • There Will Be Blood (dammit, a book!)

Gonna get pedantic here:

Blade Runner is based on "Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep" by Philip K Dick.
There Will Be Blood is based on "Oil" by Sinclair Lewis.
Both were acclaimed in their own right before the film adaptations.

Okey dokey then... carry on!

2001 Space Odyssey might be an interesting candidate here, just because of the way in which the book and film were more or less born together and diverged in their own separate ways, though the genesis of the whole thing was apparently in a short story by AC Clark that I know nothing about.

Star Wars is interesting in that it's a big franchise IP that isn't an adaption of a book or comic

Yea, in the case of Star Wars, there's a lot of borrowing from old ideas and mythological forms as well as the samurai and western genres that I'm not sure it entirely counts ... it probably sits in its own little category of sort of fairy tale literature brought to film, which is an achievement in its own right.

Directly stole characters from samurai films too. 2 characters in Hidden Fortress act exactly like R2 and C3PO

I’m sure there are other examples

Almost all 'new' ideas borrow from old ideas. If we don't count Star Wars, then there's nothing we can count.

It's not just about borrowing from older ideas, it's about the extent to which star wars was knowingly channeling a certain kind of story structure that has old cultural roots.

The Lion King would be a similar-ish example. It's basically Hamlet, which Shakespeare based on an older Viking story (AFAIU) ... so it's just one of those stories that's out there.

None of which is to criticise Star Wars, just to argue that it stands separate somewhat.

Adopted from a couple older movies, like Kurosawa’s hidden fortress, among others

It was a heavily influenced film, though: Flash Gordon + Hidden Fortress + dogfighting reel with a dash of The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.

I'm vaguely aware of those influences, but decided to answer OP's question very literally (there's no 'New Hope' book that anyone can check out after seeing the first film)

Fargo. Even the "true story" that it's based on never happened.

Forrest Gump is apparently better than the book. I haven’t read it but the people who did unanimously agree that the protagonist in the book is too much of an asshole.

The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari

King Kong

Little Miss Sunshine

The Raid 1 & 2

Beetlejuice

The Goonies

E.T.

American History X

Frankenstein and Bride of Frankenstein are very loosely based on the original story (ostensibly Mary Shelley’s verbal retelling of the story before she penned the novel) and both are good in their own right.

Great films not adapted from books - most of David Lynch's work would count here: Mulholland Drive, Eraserhead, Blue Velvet, Lost Highway, Inland Empire, and Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me (though that's a prequel to the TV show, obviously)

Free Guy, just for being the first original IP in I don't even know how long

I was truly, genuinely, surprised at how much I enjoyed the philosophy of Free Guy. At first, I thought it was just a feel-good movie, popcorn flick, but I was happy to be able to go to the cinema during Covid, middling, middling, middling, and, lo, by the end the movie had completely won me over. IT IS ABOUT HOW WE FEEL ABOUT OUR LIVES, regardless of our place in the cosmos.

I wished it had gone deeper into the ethics of creating conscious AIs, but that would have been too much to ask for that kind of movie. That same year I watched Dune in the cinema, and I kind of like them both. Almost equally, but in different ways. About 6 months later, I went back for The Matrix Resurrections and was sorely disappointed. Free Guy should have been The Matrix 4.

Star Wars.

IDK why I sometimes hear that Lucas derived the movies from some old book series; that's bullshit. All the books came after the movies.

I think Star Wars is a great example of an original film that's endlessly familiar. It took so many old fantasy tropes, western tropes, war movie tropes, a hefty dose of Kurosawa, and made something that almost anyone can relate to while still being completely alien.

You might be interested in reading "The Hero With A Thousand Faces" by Joseph Campbell. Also read the whole discourse and criticisms surrounding the work.

The story was beat per beat inspired by Joseph Campbell's The Hero With A Thousand Faces. Campbell's metaphorical inmost cave was translated into Luke literally going to a cave in Empire Strikes Back.

Not to take anything away from Lucas' creativity, of course. But to me it was quite obvious that he read or at least was aware of Joseph Campbell's theory of stories and that Lucas read Frank Herbert's Dune

My pet peeve is when people say a story with is hero's journey is just a rip-off of another hero's journey. Campbell didn't invent or discover it, the story structure was used a lot before him and was known as the medicin jurney. He just wrote a book about it

He didn't invent it, but he did try to flatten every story into this masculine take of a heroic life, some screenwriters took this to heart and then we got Luke in the cave.

Sometimes I go through weeks of intensively reading mangas or go back to the Greek mythologies, Homer, Apuleius, and enjoy how different the story beats in these cultures are compared to, well, my boring person's American hegemony entertainment.

Memento. Technically was an unpublished short story rewriten for the screen.

Some Wes Anderson stuff: isle of Dogs, Grand Budapest Hotel (loose influence), Royal Taenbaums

M (1933)

Short Term 12

Shawshank is based on a short story too

Interrogation (1989)

Funny Gaes (1997 version!!!)

A lot of Powell and Pressbruger’s stuff… Red Shoes, Colonel Blimp

Coen bros stuff-Fargo (strongly recommend this), O Brother Where Art Thou (inspired by Homer, but a bit different from the book lol), Big Lebowski

Just a few to start you with. I basically pulled some fine examples across cinema history. I ignored a lot of great silent stuff, especially the comedy. If you reply to this one day, I’m sure I can follow up with more refs!

Rambo - First Blood

Book adaptation.

It's not

Yes, it is. It’s adapted from First Blood, by David Morrell.

Also, the movie wad just called First Blood, not Rambo - First Blood. You’re confusing the title with the first sequel, Rambo: First Blood Part II.

BOOGIE NIGHTS. An original screenplay, although inspired by some real people and incidents.

Charlie Kaufman's work comes to mind. But he adapted a lot of stories he wrote as novels.

Annihilation is one as well I'd say. Even though it's based on one of my favourite books, the movie did a good job of taking the premise / vibe and making it into something quite original. The book is definitely better by far, but I respect the artistic direction of the movie.

Brazil is one of my favourite movies. AFAIK it's not based on a book. It is frequently compared to 1984, but it's not based on it. Just similar themes of a totalitarian dystopia.

It's a recent animated film, but I enjoy The Legend of Hei.

It's an animated Chinese film based on an animated web series of a similar name about a little cat spirit trying to find a home and ending up on a long journey.

I might say Spirited Away is a good example. I don't know how many Ghibli films are based on books if at all, but that one in particular fits the bill.

On a similar vein, many western animated films are not based on a book. Examples that come into mind are The Incredibles and Toy Story (Pixar), Lilo and Stitch (Disney), On the Road to El Dorado (DreamWorks). I'm sure there's more...

Or what are some films that are significantly better than the book they were adapted

One of my favourite books, High Fidelity. I think I am in the age range and demo it was written for, so much rings true. When I heard there was a film coming out I was so excited, and then I read it was being moved from London and re-set in Chicago, and my heart sank.

Boy was I wrong. John Cusack was great, Todd Louiso was histerical, and it was Jack Black's breakout performance. (I honestly am not sure he has been funnier since)

And the Chicago setting 100% worked, better than London would have

Any film made by Christopher Guest and Wes Anderson. Every one of them are gems.

Maybe this is controversial - I really like Wes Anderson’s films but they’re more of a visual treat than anything else.

The visuals are a major reason to watch them. There is more, but the visuals are big.

Synecdoche, New York Being John Malkovich Unicorn Wars Puss in Boots: The Last Wish Mad God House (1977) Susperia Videodrome

Crank and Shoot em' Up.

Both are just a wild ride start to finish.1i

Fight Club. I've read the book, the film was .. different and better in some ways. Very much not a disappointment.

Sunshine. This might be my favourite movie. It's excellent. Space done right. Not from a book.

Fightclub is a movie that's adapted from a book. OP asked for movies like your second answer. Guess that's why you're being downvoted

Obviously I misread

Hang on, in the last paragraph OP says if you know of a movie that is better than the original source book/comic, then it qualifies as a suggestion

Edge of Tomorrow is based on a japanese book or Manga (I forgot which came first) called All You Need is Kill.

The manga was good, but the movie adaptation was just much much better. The mimics were designed differently and the plot differed enough to make a significant boost.

I've seen the movie and really liked it, I've also read the manga and liked it. I wouldn't say there is a better one, but they are very different, both satisfactory in their own ways and the cultural differences really show in both formats.

The Silence of the Lambs
The book was good, but the acting was excellent in the movie.

V for Vendetta is a great movie and is better than the graphic novel.

I like both a lot, they're both very much a product of the times, places, and people that created them.

The movie being very much a reaction to Bush-era US politics through the perspective of the Wachowskis, and the comic a reaction to Thatcherism through Alan Moore's eyes

There are definitely parallels to be drawn between the two contexts, and the same overall story with some tweaks works well for both.

Being a millennial in the US, the movie definitely resonates with me a little more deeply, but my inner anarchist wishes they kept a little more of Moore's vision intact, though V just giving a lecture on anarchy in the middle of the movie probably wouldn't translate well to the silver screen.

Monuments Men is arguably way better than the book. The movie humanized the content and made it more approachable.