"Ok guys, if we take the site down they can't have a blackout: It's brilliant!"
-Spez probably
We did it, reddit!
...wait, fuck. Lemmy!
Thanks for your good punctuation.
Lemmy for president!!
Who the fuck is Lemmy?
we are reddit in some ways
In all the ways that matter, the users and quality content are its heart. Take that away and it’s more like UnDeadit.
We're more reddit than reddit
Big brain move
They're likely changing the mod structure during the blackout. A lot of low-paid, repurposed bangladeshi click-farm mods coming in.
Reddit? Paying mods? As if.
They've gone 15 years not paying mods for their work. They're not about to start now, especially if they're concerned about costs.
Not paying mods gave them an out to not be a publisher.
If your company is the one doing the moderation, then you become responsible for what is on your website, and that means spez would have to get rid of the Nazis :(.
Replacing them all with automod
u/Spez-autoGPT joined to the thread.
Subreddit mods win. Fatality.
how long was it? i heard about it earlier but when i checked it worked fine
About an hour.
Webpage is still down for me - ironically Boost for Reddit seems to work fine
While I was reading through this, I had a pop-up saying “report created”. I didn’t press anything to report; I only gave upvotes. So, apologies to who/what was reported. 😖
same thing happened to me on another post! Not sure what I clicked...
What is this reddit? i only know lemmy ;)
Readdit, never even heard it
Reddit free tier usage reached
drink a verification can of {product placement} to continue
THE SYSTEM... IS DOWN
THE SYSTEM... IS DOWN
Aggressive techno noises
Strong Bad at his finest
LMFAO
we did it reddit
AND MY AXE!!!
To shreds you say?
Or we just let all those saying die with reddit, that’s a thought
The Fediverse is too new and decentralized to have its own sayings, so all we have is the memories of our old home. Besides, these sayings remind us of a better era of Reddit where it was just a bunch of techie weirdos asking each other "when does the narwhal bacon" and trying to bait newbies to click on /r/spacedicks. I still remember my first days on Reddit, when I was grounded from the family computer and stole my dad's laptop to browse. Someone linked /r/spacedicks and convinced me that it was the NASA memes subreddit. I clicked on it and was waiting for the page to load on the terribly slow wifi when my dad stormed into the room, furious that his laptop was missing, and proceeded to beat the shit out of me with a set of jumper cables. It hurts so much to see the site I grew up with be destroyed by corporate greed like that, but life goes on.
Always hated that image on the error page. Blaming the user when they are the ones that fucked up. Server errors are never the users fault
I think it's pretty funny and I'm sure it's just a joke. It's hardly actually blaming users, imo.
Some possibilities:
Some fool thinks it's a good idea to DDoS Reddit today to make a point.
Some Reddit admin thinks it's a good idea to take it offline deliberately to make a point.
The general public are hugging it to death out of curiosity about the protest.
Unrelated outage. Outages happen, sometimes even on the same day as other things.
Using Occam's Razor, I'd bet on the last option.
Or the third.
It could be that their infrastructure is set up to optimize showing data on the typically most popular subreddits.
Or they took it offline to "hide" all the blacked out subreddits. Some had images about the third party apps as their only post, which was on the front page. By going offline it makes it seem like more of a technical issue rather than a protest.
i like how they said that the outage anticipated and expected yet, they didn't prevent it only to try to fix it once it happened. totally healthy company behavior 👌
Its been having issues for days. I discovered as much while deleting all my old post and comments.
Good to know that Reddit can be killed for an entire afternoon any time the community wants by coordinating the use of basic site functions.
Is it possible someone launched a DDoS attack against Reddit?
It's back up again... DANG!
Edit: And DOWN again lmao
It’s funny that it works normally on Apollo for me 😎
I think it's ridiculous that it's actually the sub blackout that killed Reddit today. How can this happen?
The other messages are not the same and an automated response would be posted faster.
Interesting, hopefully that's the case instead of something more... stupid from Reddit. I sincerely hope this is just the community protesting in some way.
My money is on a DDoS attack. DDoS attacks are 100% going to happen after what Spez pulled.
That's what I thought first because their infrastructure seems to be shit.
My wife and I were talking about this 2 days ago. She was betting money that we’d see DDoS attacks early Monday.
u/Spez will just put the blame on Christian again (Apollo's dev).
But on a little more serious note, I doubt this is on purpose. This would look really bad for the credibility of the platform, there is a LOT of users that just want to keep doomscrolling Reddit and in all honesty don't give a spez(fuck) about what's going on with the protests.
But... if this is on purpose...
Strange decision to say the least.
This would look really bad for the credibility of the platform
From what I've been following, they haven't been too concerned about this since at least a few weeks ago
I know and agree with you on that.
But for the majority of the userbase, one thing is to have some of their favorite subreddits joining a protest, the other is having their whole experience affected.
Reddit has long survived with the help of pornography makers. Reddit does not face a quick death.
Makers and consumers. At one point an Admin, I think it was Alexis or Yashan, said straight up like 50% of reddit is porn. That was years ago though, and I'm sure they've done what they could to mitigate that.
But do we know why it was down? If it was something like a ddos (or claimed to be) this could be used to vilify the protestors.
Our usage stats show that we have record low numbers of people using the site and at the same time we have too many people using the site.
If they are being completely honest, my guess is that the page that loads when a sub is private comes from a server that doesn’t typically get much load.
Then everything went private and suddenly that server was hugged to death.
This makes sense to me. I only came over to Lemmy because of the reddit API drama, and I'm pretty impressed with it so far! I'd love for it to grow, so I hope this is a death knell or sign of things to come for Reddit.
don't worry they will complain ApolloApp for this anyway
"It was u/christianselig's fault for not paying us $20 million uwu"
I hope the major subs stay dark. The only thing keeping reddit afloat is moderators. Without tools the mods would need full time paid positions which is never going to happen. I'd like to see them all burn. Its become a shit show of adds and bots now anyway. Good riddance. I wish someone would incorporate freenets web of trust system to some type of decentralized app like this.
Could they not replace the mods? In the end, don’t they own the subreddits? Who owns the intellectual property?
They'd have to find people as enthusiastic. Quality would likely drop.
I'm guessing hundreds of thousands of uninformed users are getting blocked from subreddits and are constantly retrying.
They could also be having to check lots of people against the lists of who is allowed in what private subs. Which could in turn cause problems if the code there assumes that usually people are allowed in the private subs they visit and relies on that to be fast.
Not sure that there were any private subs with tens of millions of disallowed subscribers before this morning.
I've used rif and old.reddit respectively for so long that I really had no idea how much of a shitshow the ui had turned in too until I checked it out through the official app and new layout style in browser.
No fucking thank you, take your glitter shit and constant ad pushing and jump off a cliff.
The first ad that popped was a promoted post for machine gun kelly. I listen to grindcore, crossover, metal, etc.. That sealed its fate in my eyes.
I actually prefer when the ads are targeted but wrong. It shows me they don't know me as well as they could. Also if I'm not interested they aren't distracting
Same here. I've been using old.reddit with RES and apollo for so long that I forgot reddit even had ads until I tried the official app.
Same, RiF + old. FTW
TBH, really liking Lemmy ❤️
Maybe they just ran out of money and their hosting provider shut them down? Reddit was so desperate with these API fees
And "unprofitable" too.
Nothing more hilarious than /u/spez saying the company is unprofitable right before IPOing
Truly, couldn't have been better if it had been written into something like Silicone Valley. Just too perfect.
"Ok guys, if we take the site down they can't have a blackout: It's brilliant!"
-Spez probably
We did it, reddit!
...wait, fuck. Lemmy!
Thanks for your good punctuation.
Lemmy for president!!
Who the fuck is Lemmy?
we are reddit in some ways
In all the ways that matter, the users and quality content are its heart. Take that away and it’s more like UnDeadit.
We're more reddit than reddit
Big brain move
They're likely changing the mod structure during the blackout. A lot of low-paid, repurposed bangladeshi click-farm mods coming in.
Reddit? Paying mods? As if.
They've gone 15 years not paying mods for their work. They're not about to start now, especially if they're concerned about costs.
Not paying mods gave them an out to not be a publisher.
If your company is the one doing the moderation, then you become responsible for what is on your website, and that means spez would have to get rid of the Nazis :(.
Replacing them all with automod
u/Spez-autoGPT joined to the thread.
Subreddit mods win. Fatality.
how long was it? i heard about it earlier but when i checked it worked fine
About an hour.
Webpage is still down for me - ironically Boost for Reddit seems to work fine
While I was reading through this, I had a pop-up saying “report created”. I didn’t press anything to report; I only gave upvotes. So, apologies to who/what was reported. 😖
same thing happened to me on another post! Not sure what I clicked...
What is this reddit? i only know lemmy ;)
Readdit, never even heard it
Reddit free tier usage reached
drink a verification can of {product placement} to continue
THE SYSTEM... IS DOWN THE SYSTEM... IS DOWN
Aggressive techno noises
Strong Bad at his finest
we did it reddit
AND MY AXE!!!
To shreds you say?
Or we just let all those saying die with reddit, that’s a thought
The Fediverse is too new and decentralized to have its own sayings, so all we have is the memories of our old home. Besides, these sayings remind us of a better era of Reddit where it was just a bunch of techie weirdos asking each other "when does the narwhal bacon" and trying to bait newbies to click on /r/spacedicks. I still remember my first days on Reddit, when I was grounded from the family computer and stole my dad's laptop to browse. Someone linked /r/spacedicks and convinced me that it was the NASA memes subreddit. I clicked on it and was waiting for the page to load on the terribly slow wifi when my dad stormed into the room, furious that his laptop was missing, and proceeded to beat the shit out of me with a set of jumper cables. It hurts so much to see the site I grew up with be destroyed by corporate greed like that, but life goes on.
This is basically a wake. Allow us to reminisce.
It's my fault apparently
Always hated that image on the error page. Blaming the user when they are the ones that fucked up. Server errors are never the users fault
I think it's pretty funny and I'm sure it's just a joke. It's hardly actually blaming users, imo.
Some possibilities:
Using Occam's Razor, I'd bet on the last option.
Or the third.
It could be that their infrastructure is set up to optimize showing data on the typically most popular subreddits.
Or they took it offline to "hide" all the blacked out subreddits. Some had images about the third party apps as their only post, which was on the front page. By going offline it makes it seem like more of a technical issue rather than a protest.
i like how they said that the outage anticipated and expected yet, they didn't prevent it only to try to fix it once it happened. totally healthy company behavior 👌
Its been having issues for days. I discovered as much while deleting all my old post and comments.
Good to know that Reddit can be killed for an entire afternoon any time the community wants by coordinating the use of basic site functions.
Is it possible someone launched a DDoS attack against Reddit?
It's back up again... DANG!
Edit: And DOWN again lmao
It’s funny that it works normally on Apollo for me 😎
I think it's ridiculous that it's actually the sub blackout that killed Reddit today. How can this happen?
See TheVerge: "Reddit crashed because of the growing subreddit blackout"
Chances Reddit did this on purpose to hide the content blackout?
> We're aware of problems loading content and are working to resolve the issues as quickly as possible.
I'm 99% sure those are automated, so it really doesn't say anything.
Doubt it
https://www.redditstatus.com/history
The other messages are not the same and an automated response would be posted faster.
Interesting, hopefully that's the case instead of something more... stupid from Reddit. I sincerely hope this is just the community protesting in some way.
My money is on a DDoS attack. DDoS attacks are 100% going to happen after what Spez pulled.
That's what I thought first because their infrastructure seems to be shit.
My wife and I were talking about this 2 days ago. She was betting money that we’d see DDoS attacks early Monday.
u/Spez will just put the blame on Christian again (Apollo's dev).
But on a little more serious note, I doubt this is on purpose. This would look really bad for the credibility of the platform, there is a LOT of users that just want to keep doomscrolling Reddit and in all honesty don't give a spez(fuck) about what's going on with the protests.
But... if this is on purpose...
Strange decision to say the least.
From what I've been following, they haven't been too concerned about this since at least a few weeks ago
I know and agree with you on that.
But for the majority of the userbase, one thing is to have some of their favorite subreddits joining a protest, the other is having their whole experience affected.
Reddit has long survived with the help of pornography makers. Reddit does not face a quick death.
Makers and consumers. At one point an Admin, I think it was Alexis or Yashan, said straight up like 50% of reddit is porn. That was years ago though, and I'm sure they've done what they could to mitigate that.
But do we know why it was down? If it was something like a ddos (or claimed to be) this could be used to vilify the protestors.
Our usage stats show that we have record low numbers of people using the site and at the same time we have too many people using the site.
If they are being completely honest, my guess is that the page that loads when a sub is private comes from a server that doesn’t typically get much load.
Then everything went private and suddenly that server was hugged to death.
This makes sense to me. I only came over to Lemmy because of the reddit API drama, and I'm pretty impressed with it so far! I'd love for it to grow, so I hope this is a death knell or sign of things to come for Reddit.
don't worry they will complain ApolloApp for this anyway
"It was u/christianselig's fault for not paying us $20 million uwu"
I hope the major subs stay dark. The only thing keeping reddit afloat is moderators. Without tools the mods would need full time paid positions which is never going to happen. I'd like to see them all burn. Its become a shit show of adds and bots now anyway. Good riddance. I wish someone would incorporate freenets web of trust system to some type of decentralized app like this.
Could they not replace the mods? In the end, don’t they own the subreddits? Who owns the intellectual property?
They'd have to find people as enthusiastic. Quality would likely drop.
I'm guessing hundreds of thousands of uninformed users are getting blocked from subreddits and are constantly retrying.
They could also be having to check lots of people against the lists of who is allowed in what private subs. Which could in turn cause problems if the code there assumes that usually people are allowed in the private subs they visit and relies on that to be fast.
Not sure that there were any private subs with tens of millions of disallowed subscribers before this morning.
I've used rif and old.reddit respectively for so long that I really had no idea how much of a shitshow the ui had turned in too until I checked it out through the official app and new layout style in browser.
No fucking thank you, take your glitter shit and constant ad pushing and jump off a cliff.
The first ad that popped was a promoted post for machine gun kelly. I listen to grindcore, crossover, metal, etc.. That sealed its fate in my eyes.
I actually prefer when the ads are targeted but wrong. It shows me they don't know me as well as they could. Also if I'm not interested they aren't distracting
Same here. I've been using old.reddit with RES and apollo for so long that I forgot reddit even had ads until I tried the official app.
Same, RiF + old. FTW TBH, really liking Lemmy ❤️
Maybe they just ran out of money and their hosting provider shut them down? Reddit was so desperate with these API fees
And "unprofitable" too.
Nothing more hilarious than /u/spez saying the company is unprofitable right before IPOing
Truly, couldn't have been better if it had been written into something like Silicone Valley. Just too perfect.