Interesting! Wonder how that would've changed early American cultures if they hadn't died off?
Hey, just a little FYI but humans were in North America before the horse went extinct* so they likely did have some interaction with ancient cultures.
_* From what I gather there is heated debate as to whether the domesticated horse that was brought back to North America is truly non-native. I'm not a paleontologist nor phylogeneticist so I can't speak to any of that.
Thanks, I read it as 1941 and thought it was something about ww2
And avocado.
All the good things that end in O
Even Spaghetti-Os. Can't have those without the tomato sauce.
Those are banned in Europe. Thankfully.
There's some contraband here and there, but the food police is on the case.
Dildo
It's amazing that we can recreate this map with such accuracy!
Wait until you see the map of the Americas before 1492 with the shredded wheat/oatmeal divide.
Please explain meme for us who aren't this well versed in history
It's a meta meme. There are a few popular memes out there showing the divide between "Potato Europe" and "Tomato Europe"
But this one is showing neither because it predates their arrival in Europe, I guess.
finally, Ireland is made whole
Neither existed in Europe back then. I'm not sure if there is another reference to that exact date I'm missing
América was discovered by Colon in 1492 and bring the first potato and tomato seeds to Europe
I'm pretty sure he didn't discover it, what with people having lived there for tens of thousands of years.
I discovered a new restaurant last week. It's been around for decades but it was new to me. I can't remember the first time I tasted a tomato or potato, but to the Europeans it must have been amazing! And don't forget chocolate!
You are correct about the thriving and ancient civilizations in the "New World" of course. Getting olives and oranges and figs, even horses, doesn't feel like enough compensation for what happened to them...
I never got this semitic discussion. I can discover a cabin in a forest or a store in a city but Columbus can't discover a continent because he wasn't the first one who discovered it?
As far as I care, "discovered" is in relation to cartography, at which point most societies know of it and its location.
Anything else is just pathetic semantics that could go back through evolution and the chronology of Earth's continents and geography. No one wants that except a couple of Actually Guys.
As far as I care, “discovered” is in relation to cartography, at which point most societies know of it and its location.
Well then you can't go with Columbus. Basically no one in Asia or Africa knew what he did, let alone both of the Americas and Australia. So unless you define Europe as the only place with societies, Columbus doesn't even come close.
most societies
I would change this to "a society" so Columbus discovered America for the European society while other societies already knew it or still didn't
Sorry. Did I say I was "going with Columbus"?
This would have more merit if he ever set foot in North America. He landed in the Bahamas. It’s technically part of the North American tectonic plate, but so is part of Iceland.
Because America is only North America?
Yes moron, that is colloquially what it means
And there is no causal relation between the discovery of these
Edit: Also: the meme is about potatoes and tomatoes which come from around central America. They aren't USA exports. The meme is about the discovery of America as in the Americas
He didn't introduce potatoes or tomatoes to Europe either, that happened decades later.
But as a consequence
By this reasoning it was actually the Queen of Spain that 'discovered' the Americas, potatoes, and tomatoes.
And it doesn't matter, because what is up for dispute is what people mean when they say America. Which is North America, regardless of the actual facts. That's what colloquial means
Pay attention to what is actually being discussed before running your mouth to make yourself sound smart.
Context matters. When it's about the discovery of America, it's the double continent since north and south America were not discovered separately. They are one landmass
Edit: Also you were the one saying "actually America is Nort America so Columbus didn't discover the real America". Think about the context before trying to sound smart
Not in the real world where U.S.-centric dumbasses live in their own reality and force everyone else to go along with it with guns and nukes.
You and I both know the term America applies to both continents, but to the NPCs, it doesn't. That's literally what colloquialism is -- what NPCs say, and that is what was up for dispute. Not the actual facts of the matter.
Edit: Also you were the one saying “actually America is Nort America so Columbus didn’t discover the real America”. Think about the context before trying to sound smart
No, no, you're clearly confusing me with the other guy because you are angry I called you out on trying and failing to sound smart. Breathe in through your nose, hold 4 seconds, breathe out with your mouth, and read the screen names again.
The gravity was there from the beginning of time, but Newton discovered it.
English is not my first language but as long as you specify for who, you can use discover, like "I discovered this movie last year, it's my new favorite movie since then' and the movie was published 40 years ago.
Do potato grow from seeds?
I thought they just grew from other potato.
They can be, they're nightshades so they make little tomato-like berries which contain seeds. Usually people just replant potatoes instead because it's easier and they grow faster.
Potatos make tomatos? Now you are just trying to confuse me.
Yes, you are right , he brings potatoes and tomatoes seeds, not potatoes seeds and tomatoes seeds
While being totally wrong because it wasn't called Alfredo at the time and wouldn't be until like 1930s, they did often put oil, herbs, and cheese on pasta before the popularity of the tomato so you are still correct.
Belarus and everything else?
Surprised irland isn't yellow arint they known for liking potatoes
Potatoes aren't native to Europe. Europeans first discovered the potato after traveling to the Americas.
even with all borders removed ireland still isn't reunified
They dug out the border to fill it with water. The northern moat they call it
Time traveling Ira songs intensify
This map was brought to you by Britain, the great!
It never will, it’d be pure folly to believe otherwise.
At the same time, 1491, you can do a map of horses in North America with the same result!
Depends on how far back you want to go.
Interesting! Wonder how that would've changed early American cultures if they hadn't died off?
Hey, just a little FYI but humans were in North America before the horse went extinct* so they likely did have some interaction with ancient cultures.
_* From what I gather there is heated debate as to whether the domesticated horse that was brought back to North America is truly non-native. I'm not a paleontologist nor phylogeneticist so I can't speak to any of that.
Thanks, I read it as 1941 and thought it was something about ww2
And avocado.
All the good things that end in O
Even Spaghetti-Os. Can't have those without the tomato sauce.
Those are banned in Europe. Thankfully.
There's some contraband here and there, but the food police is on the case.
Dildo
It's amazing that we can recreate this map with such accuracy!
Wait until you see the map of the Americas before 1492 with the shredded wheat/oatmeal divide.
Please explain meme for us who aren't this well versed in history
It's a meta meme. There are a few popular memes out there showing the divide between "Potato Europe" and "Tomato Europe"
But this one is showing neither because it predates their arrival in Europe, I guess.
finally, Ireland is made whole
Neither existed in Europe back then. I'm not sure if there is another reference to that exact date I'm missing
América was discovered by Colon in 1492 and bring the first potato and tomato seeds to Europe
I'm pretty sure he didn't discover it, what with people having lived there for tens of thousands of years.
I discovered a new restaurant last week. It's been around for decades but it was new to me. I can't remember the first time I tasted a tomato or potato, but to the Europeans it must have been amazing! And don't forget chocolate!
You are correct about the thriving and ancient civilizations in the "New World" of course. Getting olives and oranges and figs, even horses, doesn't feel like enough compensation for what happened to them...
I never got this semitic discussion. I can discover a cabin in a forest or a store in a city but Columbus can't discover a continent because he wasn't the first one who discovered it?
As far as I care, "discovered" is in relation to cartography, at which point most societies know of it and its location.
Anything else is just pathetic semantics that could go back through evolution and the chronology of Earth's continents and geography. No one wants that except a couple of Actually Guys.
Well then you can't go with Columbus. Basically no one in Asia or Africa knew what he did, let alone both of the Americas and Australia. So unless you define Europe as the only place with societies, Columbus doesn't even come close.
I would change this to "a society" so Columbus discovered America for the European society while other societies already knew it or still didn't
Sorry. Did I say I was "going with Columbus"?
This would have more merit if he ever set foot in North America. He landed in the Bahamas. It’s technically part of the North American tectonic plate, but so is part of Iceland.
Because America is only North America?
Yes moron, that is colloquially what it means
And there is no causal relation between the discovery of these
Edit: Also: the meme is about potatoes and tomatoes which come from around central America. They aren't USA exports. The meme is about the discovery of America as in the Americas
He didn't introduce potatoes or tomatoes to Europe either, that happened decades later.
But as a consequence
By this reasoning it was actually the Queen of Spain that 'discovered' the Americas, potatoes, and tomatoes.
And it doesn't matter, because what is up for dispute is what people mean when they say America. Which is North America, regardless of the actual facts. That's what colloquial means
Pay attention to what is actually being discussed before running your mouth to make yourself sound smart.
Context matters. When it's about the discovery of America, it's the double continent since north and south America were not discovered separately. They are one landmass
Edit: Also you were the one saying "actually America is Nort America so Columbus didn't discover the real America". Think about the context before trying to sound smart
Not in the real world where U.S.-centric dumbasses live in their own reality and force everyone else to go along with it with guns and nukes.
You and I both know the term America applies to both continents, but to the NPCs, it doesn't. That's literally what colloquialism is -- what NPCs say, and that is what was up for dispute. Not the actual facts of the matter.
No, no, you're clearly confusing me with the other guy because you are angry I called you out on trying and failing to sound smart. Breathe in through your nose, hold 4 seconds, breathe out with your mouth, and read the screen names again.
The gravity was there from the beginning of time, but Newton discovered it.
English is not my first language but as long as you specify for who, you can use discover, like "I discovered this movie last year, it's my new favorite movie since then' and the movie was published 40 years ago.
I thought it was discovered by ship
poo if by sea
Do potato grow from seeds? I thought they just grew from other potato.
They can be, they're nightshades so they make little tomato-like berries which contain seeds. Usually people just replant potatoes instead because it's easier and they grow faster.
Potatos make tomatos? Now you are just trying to confuse me.
Yes, you are right , he brings potatoes and tomatoes seeds, not potatoes seeds and tomatoes seeds
Italy didn't have tomatoes in the 1490's? 🤔
What did they put on the pasta back then?
Alfredo sauce, silly.
While being totally wrong because it wasn't called Alfredo at the time and wouldn't be until like 1930s, they did often put oil, herbs, and cheese on pasta before the popularity of the tomato so you are still correct.
Belarus and everything else?
Surprised irland isn't yellow arint they known for liking potatoes
Potatoes aren't native to Europe. Europeans first discovered the potato after traveling to the Americas.