it remains a solid standby for responding to scammers or any old jerkface
Looking forward to the day Putin gets done like these warships he's been losing, and hopefully by the Russian people. Fucking scumbag war criminal.
People are too afraid of Disappearing to stand up to him. Self preservation unfortunately looks at short term over long term.
You know what they say, what's good for your survival isn't good for your health.
It's unfortunate, but understandable. Fear of death is a powerful motivator. That's why tyrants resort to it so frequently.
More and more news makes it sound like Russian conscripts get better treatment in Ukraine's POW camps than they do in the Russian military. Hopefully, more and more of them can find ways to lay down arms and exit the conflict to safety.
Fuck russia.
Did the orcas get it
Navy seal killer team 6
They should've trained orcas instead of dolphins.
Orcas are part of the dolphin family
I'm not sure a corvette has ever counted as "major" warship.
I think in the context of the Black Sea fleet it's considered major. They cannot replace them so every ship counts especially missile carrying ones.
Tell that to the Roci
this sent me down a hole comparing the two. looks like in terms of relative armaments, the Rocinante isn't that different to modern day.
what about all the redefining the entire ship as something new by spoofing a transponder code that should be unspoofable.. eh that sounds normal these days
Russia basically has nothing for a navy anymore, any ship is going to be a major loss
They have a navy, but most of it is outside the Black Sea, and Turkey is not going to let it in.
You're right, it's not, but it's what the Russians have. Keep in mind that the Black Sea is basically an oversized brackish lake, but is really important to the Russians because it has warm water ports. Russians love warm water ports. They also can get things into the Mediterranean from there, but they're bottle necked at either Gibraltar or Suez for getting out into the world's oceans.
Just looking at what they have in the Black Sea, they have no ships over 10k tons displacement since the Moskva sank. There's 5 ships around 5k tons, then 12 missile corvettes of 500 to 800 tons (one of which is the Askold mentioned in OP, and it was at the higher end of that range). The rest of the combat ships are things like submarines, landing craft, anti-submarine patrol, and a few others that aren't really relevant against Ukraine.
Considering what's left there, this is big, if not major. It was the biggest of their missile boats, and limits how many cruise missiles Russia can lob into Ukraine on any given day.
Is Russia lost yet?
Are they lost? Yes
Have they lost? Unfortunately no, they're going to throw death and suffering at this conflict they started until they get what they want or they (somehow) run out of bodies to throw.
They have strengthened their ability to pull from prisons too which opens up hundreds of thousands of more bodies for the front lines.
The west needs to double down and double down again in support of Ukraine.
Sunk cost fallacy.
Not... really. The cost of pulling out of Ukraine isn't just a silly little failed investment or something, it means Russia gains a stronger foothold into Europe
Imagine Vietnam-era US, but it was willing to sacrifice every warm body within its borders to win.
Like the US, I think Russia is on a collision course with failure. But they're going to take it a lot farther before waving a white flag. So much so that it will take the country decades to recover.
And Ukraine won't be looking too hot at that point anymore, either.
Yeah that "every warm body" doesn't work and will be Russian undoing.
You see, in the real world you have a very limited amount of "warm bodies" to throw to begin with. Realistically speaking, only males between, say, 15 and 45, and a few women who are more fit than average. Anything else gets useless very quickly.
Unfortunately this is also the group that forms a large part of your work force. Yes, you'll have women left, but realistically you don't see women picking up garbage at night.
Russia already has a huge gap in employable people because of the bodies they threw, and the bodies that decided to bugger off and flee before the draft got to them. especially those that fled were the more intelligent ones, the (future) scientists and engineers that you need to grow your country.
Russia is FUBAR for the next 5 decades thanks to Putin
Yep. The Romans fucked themselves sideways doing this a few times. You can have all the soldiers or you can have some farmers and skilled laborers. You can't have both.
Russian warship didn't fuck itself so it got helped.
The "Russian Warship, go fuck yourself" meme didn't last long enough imo.
Burns twice as bright for half as long.
it remains a solid standby for responding to scammers or any old jerkface
Looking forward to the day Putin gets done like these warships he's been losing, and hopefully by the Russian people. Fucking scumbag war criminal.
People are too afraid of Disappearing to stand up to him. Self preservation unfortunately looks at short term over long term.
You know what they say, what's good for your survival isn't good for your health.
It's unfortunate, but understandable. Fear of death is a powerful motivator. That's why tyrants resort to it so frequently.
More and more news makes it sound like Russian conscripts get better treatment in Ukraine's POW camps than they do in the Russian military. Hopefully, more and more of them can find ways to lay down arms and exit the conflict to safety.
Fuck russia.
Did the orcas get it
Navy seal killer team 6
They should've trained orcas instead of dolphins.
Orcas are part of the dolphin family
I'm not sure a corvette has ever counted as "major" warship.
I think in the context of the Black Sea fleet it's considered major. They cannot replace them so every ship counts especially missile carrying ones.
Tell that to the Roci
this sent me down a hole comparing the two. looks like in terms of relative armaments, the Rocinante isn't that different to modern day.
what about all the redefining the entire ship as something new by spoofing a transponder code that should be unspoofable.. eh that sounds normal these days
Russia basically has nothing for a navy anymore, any ship is going to be a major loss
They have a navy, but most of it is outside the Black Sea, and Turkey is not going to let it in.
You're right, it's not, but it's what the Russians have. Keep in mind that the Black Sea is basically an oversized brackish lake, but is really important to the Russians because it has warm water ports. Russians love warm water ports. They also can get things into the Mediterranean from there, but they're bottle necked at either Gibraltar or Suez for getting out into the world's oceans.
Just looking at what they have in the Black Sea, they have no ships over 10k tons displacement since the Moskva sank. There's 5 ships around 5k tons, then 12 missile corvettes of 500 to 800 tons (one of which is the Askold mentioned in OP, and it was at the higher end of that range). The rest of the combat ships are things like submarines, landing craft, anti-submarine patrol, and a few others that aren't really relevant against Ukraine.
Considering what's left there, this is big, if not major. It was the biggest of their missile boats, and limits how many cruise missiles Russia can lob into Ukraine on any given day.
Is Russia lost yet?
Are they lost? Yes
Have they lost? Unfortunately no, they're going to throw death and suffering at this conflict they started until they get what they want or they (somehow) run out of bodies to throw.
They have strengthened their ability to pull from prisons too which opens up hundreds of thousands of more bodies for the front lines.
The west needs to double down and double down again in support of Ukraine.
Sunk cost fallacy.
Not... really. The cost of pulling out of Ukraine isn't just a silly little failed investment or something, it means Russia gains a stronger foothold into Europe
You must not know what the sunk cost fallacy is.
Davey Jones? That's just crazy enough to work...
Imagine Vietnam-era US, but it was willing to sacrifice every warm body within its borders to win.
Like the US, I think Russia is on a collision course with failure. But they're going to take it a lot farther before waving a white flag. So much so that it will take the country decades to recover.
And Ukraine won't be looking too hot at that point anymore, either.
Yeah that "every warm body" doesn't work and will be Russian undoing.
You see, in the real world you have a very limited amount of "warm bodies" to throw to begin with. Realistically speaking, only males between, say, 15 and 45, and a few women who are more fit than average. Anything else gets useless very quickly.
Unfortunately this is also the group that forms a large part of your work force. Yes, you'll have women left, but realistically you don't see women picking up garbage at night.
Russia already has a huge gap in employable people because of the bodies they threw, and the bodies that decided to bugger off and flee before the draft got to them. especially those that fled were the more intelligent ones, the (future) scientists and engineers that you need to grow your country.
Russia is FUBAR for the next 5 decades thanks to Putin
Yep. The Romans fucked themselves sideways doing this a few times. You can have all the soldiers or you can have some farmers and skilled laborers. You can't have both.
Heroiyam slava
That's not gonna buff out
Awww how sad.
(Sad trombone sound)
Well anyway...
Broken link?
Jeremy Clarkson saying oh no
That's unfortunate