Takeaways from the third 2024 Republican presidential debate

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Takeaways from the third 2024 Republican presidential debate
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“I’m sick of Republicans losing,” Florida Governor Ron DeSantis said.

Limber up there, Rhonda!

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Thing is, Republicans lose wherever they don't get to cheat. This is for two reasons:

  1. Their policy positions are extremely unpopular with Americans
  2. Their character qualities range from "bad boss" to "fratboy rapist" to "daddy issues".

And then the news media continue to present Republican policy positions and candidates as if they were normal American behavior by normal Americans.

They're really not. They only win when they cheat.

What policy positions? Donald J. Trump was president of this country. What part of that tells you that policy positions can break a candidate? Democrat apathy is what decides elections.

"Anti-woke" is a policy position. It means "Anything we can caricature using black English, it is our intention to harm."

Yep ~ in a sane world they'd be extinct like the Dodo ~ but they keep getting a pass

People ideologically to the left of "republican" generally believe in human rights, so they haven't exterminated them.

The paradox of tolerance is only a paradox when all context is removed from actions.

IMO, only pacifists and fools should believe in perpetual nonviolence.

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Liked it when Nikki Haley called Vivek Ramaswamy scum. It's an apt description.

BUT a year ago, this week, she called for the deportation of U.S.-born Sen. Warnock at a rally to elect MAGA domestic abuser Herschel Walker.

She’s a bigoted extremist like the rest of them.

Haley looked and sounded good though. She’s the one I’m worried about. I think Biden could easily handle the others. Haley is a legitimate threat.

Good thing Republicans are too stupid and sexist to legitimately entertain her.

They didn’t seem to mind Sarah Palin, she’s still entertaining them.

Palin wasn't the main party on the ticket. Obviously a different timeline, but I can't imagine she would have had as much support as the POTUS candidate.

Nah, they're happy to put women in positions of power, as long as those women hate gay people and cheer police when they bludgeon another black person on the way to buy some chips and dip.

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No, she's not like the rest of them. She's worse. Nimrata won't even use her real first name. Because she knows the bigots she's pandering to would attack her. She thinks she can control them to her benefit. And not be a victim to them. She holds a hypocrisy above and beyond your average Republican. Her Piyush Jindal and Vivek Ramaswami all.

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The takeaways should be that nobody gives a shit because these are the also-rans. The Republican nominee will be Trump, and then they're gonna be fucked because he'll be campaigning from jail.

I don't think he'll do a day in prision. From what I see from American posts, your justice system is all kinds of fucked and plagued with corruption.

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Any of these fuckers realize the party is toast yet?

endless loop of attack ads of 10 year old girls forced to carry to term their rapists baby with Donald Trump saying "I'm the guy who killed Roe vs. Wade" with the entire GOP laughing and clapping him on the back as it fades to black with the words THIS IS WHO THEY ARE across the screen

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“We’ve become a party of losers,” he [Ramaswamy] lamented

"lol" said anyone with an ounce of sanity left in this country, "lmao"

The last time they won as an aggregate was 2016. They've been severely underperforming ever since, and the SCOTUS takeover was a direct result of the 2016 win.

The problem is, they don't have to win to exert their influence due to the extremely broken US electoral system.

If you don’t like losing?

Maybe don’t pick fights with a megacorp with a large proportion of the best litigators in the world in the world on retainer… over deeply unpopular culture war bullshit…. When thst megacorp is one of your state’s top employers and revenue-generators…,

"Megacorps" shouldn't be a thing, and corporations should be subordinate to governments. Just not DeSantis.

It's the rare example where amoral capitalistic greed can actually lead to a more morally defensible position than the actively horrible ideology against which it is compared. Disney doesn't give a fuck about any human being's particular right to be any version of themselves one way or the other, but they do care about how much money they can make off of the largest swathe of people, and they've done the math and figured they make more money being more accepting than the Republican party.

It is, in fact, a case in which "We believe nothing Lebowski!" is actually preferable to "At least it's an ethos!"

That's a great analogy via movie quotes if I've ever seen one! Need to rewatch that movie... :)

You're about to be mugged, when suddenly, the mugger is swept up by a tornado! "What a relief!", you think, as you float 100 feet up into the air.

Gotta admit. I didn’t have build a wall on the northern border on my bingo card. Canadian drug traffickers everywhere all the sudden. Vivek is something else.

Edit: It’s borderline criminal that no one on his communication staff thought to add “… and make Trudeau pay for it.” He needs to hire more trump staffers.

You know you’ve run out of shit to bitch about when you start to go after Canada.

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Lawrence O'Donnell said nobody is really trying to hit trump because "This is the debate in case trump chokes on a cheeseburger" and I'm still laughing

My takeaway is I had a better night not hearing that little ratfucker Ramaswamy talk as quickly as possible.

I don't even need to watch it to know it was a shit show.

Maybe it is because I moved from Reddit to /kbin, but I didn't even know they had a third debate. Or maybe it is because this whole Republican primary is such a waste of time. When is the Democratic debate, come to think of it... lol.

This is the best summary I could come up with:


A night after a stinging series of election losses at the hands of Democrats, the candidates vented their frustrations on the debate stage.

DeSantis has long contrasted his successful re-election last year in Florida with Republican setbacks in the last few elections, including Trump’s loss in 2020.

Earlier in the day, his campaign argued that backing Trump cost candidates seats in races such as the one for governor of Kentucky, where Republican Daniel Cameron lost to Democrat Andy Beshear.

Entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy blamed Ronna McDaniel, the chair of the Republican National Committee, instead of Trump, for the party’s recent performance.

Ambassador Nikki Haley, DeSantis and even debate moderator Kristen Welker early on in the night, in an apparent bid to grab attention away from his higher-polling foes.

All eyes were on Haley and DeSantis, who were widely expected to go after each other in a bid to establish themselves as the top challenger to Trump in the Republican nominating contest.


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Nikki Haley is legit. Vivek called her Cheney in heels lol. Desantis made one good point about not raising retirement age while life expectancy is declining.

Life expectancy is declining because republicans keep preventing Americans from getting health insurance. In all other advanced countries it's rising.

Not to mention you are saving millions without taxing the people more.

Then just to add the cherry on top no it's not. It's most likely from COVID.

But they still want to believe COVID was a half so they can't admit that's the cause.

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