Seems like world deleted the Threads discussion post

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And that they will federate with them ? (Can't seem to find it anymore at least)

I wonder how many people we're gonna lose over this, because I for one, spent time blocking what I wanted to, to curate my feed, and it took time. I already migrated once, I'm not gonna do it again because some people can't realize how toxic it's going to be when they federate with us.

I see a lot of people saying they'll just switch instances but haven't seen anyone say they'll just jump ship, am I alone ? Or maybe I'm missing an option that would allow me to transfer all my settings from one instance to another ?

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I don't think the world admins really care if users transfer away. That's just federation in action. Good stuff.

World admin playing 4d chess by showing the benefit of account migration in activitypub.

I see a lot of people saying they'll just switch instances but haven't seen anyone say they'll just jump ship, am I alone ?

I have switched instances a lot. I don't like the idea of other people curating my feed.

I made my own instance for this reason.

Is it expensive? Considering doing it myself

I had a spare computer that I installed Linux on a while back, but wasn't using it for much at the time. If set up like that, all you would pay for is the electricity, which is very low if you're only running Lemmy, probably only a couple of US dollars a month. You could probably run it on a raspberry pi, tbh.

Personally, I have solar panels that power my whole house. So it's free for me.

Personally, I have solar panels that power my whole house. So it's free for me.

The dream. I want to do this too when I buy my house, but living in northern Scandinavia makes it hard to run off solar during the winter.

I live relatively close to the equator (Texas), so it's actually better for me in the winter because I don't need to run the AC.

Texas?! Only steers and queers come from Texas, Private Cowboy, and you don't look much like a steer to me, so that kinda narrows it down!

Because the panels absorb/reflect the light? Or how does that work?

Not sure what you mean, but I just meant that because I use about a quarter of the electricity in the winter while still generating about 90% as much electricity, I end up selling a ton of electricity back to the grid, building up credits that I can use for cloudy days in the spring.

Ah okay, I get you. That's an excellent system.

Thanks, I appreciate the insight 😊 you’re setup sounds very well thought out and I respect it 🍻

This is actually detrimental to the network unless you're hosting a lot of other users. If it's just you then you're adding the federation load of an entire server just for your own personal use. Now all your subscriptions are a separate server pull on all the instances you subscribe to. Instead of using an existing instance that is already pulling

I did for awhile. For me, it wasnt worth the effort. Hot tip: go ahead and switch to blob storage for pictrs or your hosting fees are gonna get expensive quick.

What instance are you on? Voyager doesn’t even show me!

There are probably better instances out there, but I'm on lemmy.dbzer0.com at the moment.

Same! Maybe that’s why it doesn’t show me. It’s awesome.

In Voyager, you can toggle showing users’ instances in Settings > Appearance.

Thank you muchly, but I actually have that on! It still doesn’t show their instance, maybe because they’re on the same one as me.

I don't like the idea of other people curating my feed.

I'll leave fediverse, so many instances in the fediverse are still federated with Threads

https://fedipact.veganism.social/?v2

so many instances in the fediverse are still federated with Threads

Threads doesn't support federation currently, so nobody is federated with Threads at all.

The new 0.19.x version allows you to export and import your basic settings like subscriptions and blocks. I personally haven't tested it though.

Otherwise, here on lemmy, activity from threads is unlikely to reach us or have too much of an impact as following lemmy communities won't work well on their end. This presumes that they'll be focused on implementing microblogging and mastodon compatibility, which are very fair presumptions IMO. Not saying that you shouldn't care ... just that there's probably much more time than you think. On top of that, Threads's implementation of federation seems to be going slowly.

Threads federation really is a tempest in a teacup. People getting worked up over nothing.

Meta's failed twitter clone probably won't even federate with the threadiverse. Just look at this post. I see lemmy, I see kbin, I see lotide, I don't see mastodon, pleroma, friendica, and so on and so forth at all. I don't see minds (did you know that minds federates?), just a few programs of the same type.

Im just gonna wait and see what happens. Whatever ends up happening, Ill respect and stamd behind the desision of my home instance unless they start to sour like world did.

Threads won't affect Lemmy that much. Threads users will basically have to deliberately interact with Lemmy posts or communities to show up.

It’s possible in the latest version of Lemmy. World hasn’t upgraded yet. They are also already federated with threads.

They are also already federated with threads.

That's impossible because right now Threads doesn't even support federation.

It does, just only with a few users. Been under rock?

It does, just only with a few users. Been under rock?

Private pre-alpha tests with a non-public self-hosted (presumably Mastodon) instance doesn't count. Threads doesn't federate with the fediverse right now.

So when does it count? It’s federated when you look at Lemmy.world’s federated instances.

So when does it count?

When it actually works, duh.

https://lemmy.world/u/zuck@threads.net doesn't display Zuckerberg's Threads profile.

Woopty doo you can’t see a profile yet they’re raking in every thread. Yeah it’s not working properly or correctly. It’s working how they intend it to right now which is one sided.

Woopty doo you can’t see a profile yet they’re raking in every thread.

Just like Google, Microsoft Bing, and many others do with all web content as well. Good luck deferating from web crawlers.

I for one, spent time blocking what I wanted to, to curate my feed, and it took time.

If that is your general approach, why are you suddenly so eager to hand over that responsibility to the instance owner? Why are you pushing for that instances should curate the feeds of all their users, rather than the users themselves?

I'm having trust issues with them. I had an issue with them in their support community where they most likely deleted comments and then wouldn't own up, and now I'm at another instance. I would have left when they said they wouldn't defederate threads anyway. Leaving isn't that hard. If .19 gets figured out, you're supposed to be able to leave easily as well.

Ive had comment buggieness on lemmy.world. comments would only go public hours later. Mabe a client bug, mabe .world oddness

Glad I left World, I want absolutely nothing to do with Threads.

In my unbiased opinion you chose a great instance

Lemmee has been great!

I also love that our admin sees defederation as the nuclear option which is what it is

I also love that our admin sees defederation as the nuclear option which is what it is

Incidentally, there's an 8 day old post on the topic that is showing in my instance and I checked the source it wasn't deleted when I went.

I may be looking in the wrong place, but I found this post looking for that post. I know it exists as of an hour from postimg this.

I beleave there are tools to transfer account settings, personally, keep at least 2 lemmy accounts around (we had a DDOS scandle a while back), dont delete your world account just yet. lemm.ee is like what world is/was before filling up with users, else look at the lemmy server browser. Hope you end up somewhere happy, wherever you end up going.

Join us on lemmy.ml! Small and chill instance. Most people are nice left leaning FOSS geeks, interactions are mostly super nice. The only thing I dislike is the Chappo Trap House community, they will basically bully anyone who's not a chappo-bro. I blocked them and voilà ! EDIT: Lol, why am I getting downvoted ?

There’s a lot of negatives surrounding moderating on that instance and I’m sure the community you mentioned doesn’t help.

Mmm I didn't know that. Seems pretty relax to me, never had an interaction with any of the mods. To me it's a very small reddit without all the toxicity. Good enough for me. Oh, and no porn, I guess that prevents many users from joining, probably a good thing in the end.

The creators of lemmy own/run it. I’m actually banned in one of the communities on there so just speak from experience there. From what I’ve seen they delete a lot of stuff they don’t agree with in a lot of communities instead of letting the conversation go. Also you say it’s small, but there’s 50,000 users.