Republicans complain Joe Biden had too much energy at SOTU

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I am avoiding linking to the Fox article so as to not send them traffic. Can’t make this stuff up.

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It’s because of the report that came out recently that showed trumps doctor was called “the candy man”, who handed out uppers and downers by the handfuls to White House staff.

I’m pretty sure this is fairly common for folks working in the White House, but apparently under Trump the drug usage was especially egregious

I wish my job had a doctor on staff handing out drugs...

Granted

Now everyone is on copious amounts of antidepressants.

From what I can tell, a lot of jobs are already like that. It's almost like society isn't designed to make people happy 😑

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You obviously didn’t read what you are responding to

But the report is from the pentagon

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Trump is pretty well known for being sober

What? He shits himself because his bowel control is destroyed from all the coke he used to do.

There's a Cinco de mayo (2016?) photo of trump in his home office where in the background is a drawer open containing a British allergy medication. A med that is illegal in the USA because it contains amphetamines. Suspicious at best

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And I believe that was circa 2015 or 2016. And drug abusers are kinda known for gradually escalating their usage

In the next breath they'll call him "sleepy Joe."

They will claim: "He is always sleepy and slow, and SUDDENLY he is fast and upbeat? He must on some stimulants! We cannot have a President on stimulants!!"

I did watch the state of the union address, and Biden did a wonderful job overall.

There were a few word stumbles, and his stutter came out at a point; but I know I couldn't give an hour long plus speech, and not stumble several times. There was one spot he stopped mid-sentence to respond to a heckle, which will probably be clipped, but I cant remember the exact words.

Republicans need to learn to just shut up during his speeches and not heckle. He is on the ball, and at his best when responding to their heckling, it makes him look good, and he gets concessions out of them every time.

Gaza was probably the toughest segment he tackled in the SOTU; primarily that he repeated several things I've heard to be false, but may well be stuff that either stuck in his memory hard, or the US intelligence community has more information than the media I've seen, and could be accurate.

Overall, he did look energetic, intelligent, and delivered on a lot of the messaging for what his office had helped accomplish, that people generally don't hear about.

If your issue with Biden is his age, or you think his office hasn't done much of anything, I suggest you watch. If your issue with him is Gaza... likely nothing he does is going to placate you, and this address won't change that. He clearly is for a two state system, and not anti-Palestinian, but also is anti-Hamas, and is well aware of Hamas tactics of blending in with civilians, and using them as a shield (which isn't new, it has been how they operate for a long time prior to the current conflict).

I absolutely loathe Biden, but not because of his age (at least, not for any biological reasons; I do think he is stuck in the politics of the 80s and 90s). It annoys me when I see Democrats who echo the b.s. about him being infirm. Attack him for the right reasons (pro-policing, pro-incarceration, anti-immigrant, anti-Palestine, pro-imperialism, etc)

When he was the senator, he pushed forward a lot of bad policies we are stuck with to this day. Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act and Anti-Drug Abuse Act are only a couple of bad laws he's helped advance while in the Senate.

His age is not of concern for me either. I'll vote for him, because the alternative is Trump. But if the country weren't under the threat of MAGA, Fascism, Nazis, and white/Christian Nationalists, and there were other reasonable options, I probably would vote for someone else.

I listen to a podcast that is generally quite opposite of my political alignment, but I usually find it entertaining. One thing these guys believe or at least discuss quite often is that Biden is being given drugs at certain times to "kick start" him for things like the SOTU. So, I don't believe this is anything new.

Declassified documents show that former presidents like Reagan and JFK were on extreme cocktails of drugs.

Trump famously had that pic showing his oval office desk drawer full of Ephedrine (the good EU kind, not pseudo)

I would be utterly shocked if Biden was drug free.

But does it matter? Biden's energy level and coherence were well above expectations.

Shit, I think most people would need prescription strength stimulants to do that job, especially in their 80s.

I'm still surprised people in the US actually vote only for people so old they can't reasonably do the job properly. I mean what's up with that?

I guess the cynic in me thinks only people that old have a lifetime of being beholden to the powers behind the curtain to have their trust to receive big campaign funding. But that doesn't explain Trump. He was never really 'favoured' by the establishment as far as I gather. Not that I think he was a good president of course, don't get me wrong!

"I'm still surprised people in the US actually vote only for people so old they can't reasonably do the job properly. I mean what's up with that?"

When it always comes down to 2 choices, it ends up being not much of a choice. 😐

if they are saying that in their own channels, it wont be long until those narratives hit the mainstream. and prolly hard.

Fox News host Sean Hannity branded Biden "very angry" and "over-caffeinated,"

Hence, having a cup of Joe

Someone order him one of those Dark Brandon mugs

Republicans complain…..

Seemingly all news regarding them involves this in one way or another.

I recently came across the "the card says moops" video about (some kind of) right-wing thinking. Essentially, beliefs and opinions are tools to be picked up or discarded as they are useful, not because of any internally consistent belief. Explains a lot of this kind of thing.

Yep, the alt-right playbook. That dude has a dozen videos covering all that stuff.

They despised "low-energy" Secretary Clinton, so they are gonna get "high-energy" Biden.

Who am I kidding, these turds are gonna whine about him no matter what. I can't stop hammering the point that Biden and Senators once tried to give them everything they wanted on the border, but they rejected it because Inmate #P01135809 said to.

Yea well fuck those criminals we don’t need nor want them around anymore. Sell outs. Scumbags. Frauds. Curmudgeon’s.

🤖 I'm a bot that provides automatic summaries for articles: ::: spoiler Click here to see the summary Fox News host Sean Hannity branded Biden "very angry" and "over-caffeinated," while a former White House press secretary said he was "weirdly amped up."

Biden used his State of the Union address to lay down a challenge to Donald Trump, who, after a succession of primary victories on Super Tuesday, has all but sown up the 2024 GOP presidential nomination.

In a post on X, formerly Twitter, former Republican White House press secretary Ari Fleischer wrote: "No one is going to remember a single thing Biden says tonight.

During an interview with House Speaker Mike Johnson, Fox News host Sean Hannity described Biden at the address as "very angry, very jacked up, who might say charitably over-caffeinated."

As he entered the House ahead of his speech, Biden looked shocked and appeared to recoil when he was approached by Georgia Republican Marjorie Taylor Greene wearing a red MAGA hat.

Greene then handed Biden a badge bearing the name of Laken Riley, the 22-year-old Georgia nursing student who police believe was murdered by a Venezuelan national on February 22.

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If you give a single shit about the opinions of the #fascist #GOP, get your fucking head examined.

It's important to be aware of their opinions because they quickly become policy and rhetoric while Dems do damage control and fail to fix the underlying issues Reps exploit. In this case, having an instance where they directly contradict their own "sleepy Joe" narrative can help deconstruct the beliefs of family members who have fallen for it.

Republicans also complained that Kamala didn't smile enough and that water is wet.