Why does anyone still use reddit? Why does anyone still use Twitter? Why does anyone still use Instagram?
Reddit has an absolutely massive wealth of community knowledge. If you want to find a community for $thing or gain obscure knowledge on $thing, that's where you go (assuming there isn't an old forum post from before Reddit killed forums).
Twitter is where a lot of people still are. If you're the kind of person to care what a particular person says, that's where you probably want to be.
Instagram is used by young people who have friends on Instagram.
It isn't a great system, but it is the system that we have today. This is why legislation compelling Meta/Twitter/whothefuckever to act in an ethical manner is important. Social media is to some extent a natural oligopoly, and unless we get extremely, extremely lucky, the fediverse will always be a niche community.
Find me easier to access niche communities and I'll be gone from reddit. I hoped Lemmy would blow up. Instead, reddit just shrank.
Find me easier to access niche communities
Have fun trying to discuss anything that isn't about linux, american politics or reddit/amazon/elon bad!!. Lemmy is just a decentralized circle jerk.
Well i guess we should have seen it coming right. The people pissed enough with Reddit to leave were most likely to be technology proficient users and bourgeois hating leftists
Some of us prefer not drowning in bots and pathologically hostile individuals.
And some subreddits have fascist mods who arbitrarily ban anyone who's not a alt-right or worse.
And that too
Forgot people whose only opinion is hating the website they're on.
I do not hate the concept of lemmy and the fediverse, But I'm also not going to pretend that lemmy at its current state isn't a circle jerk. Lemmy needs more diverse groups of people. Like GrammerPolice said above, most people who migrated from reddit were people with very strong stance on their opinions. And there's intense hostility to anything that is even slightly against what they believe in.
Lemmy has in many ways been a successful copy of reddit; lemmy has many of the same faults as reddit.
I do feel like part of questioning process is what can possibly be adjusted to reduce some of the problems? Otherwise it just feels like generic poopooing like one might see on reddit.
This is true, but at the same time, your posts on let me don't get buried as easily. And the karma hear truly doesn't matter.
It's mildly frustrating that you can't post anything that's even remotely close to positive about any use of AI, or any positive information whatsoever about Tesla over SpaceX without being said that you're sucking musks cock. But in those respects the only thing different between Lemmy and Reddit is the number of people that will come to your defense, and of course in Reddit if no one comes to your defense your post is basically buried.
You're all so far less likely to have a reasonable post here removed. Yes it still happens, yes a few of the communities are still moderated by biased enough individuals to delete your content but it's much less prevalent than it was at reddit.
That said, yeah if you are mostly conservative you are going to have a very bad time trying to soapbox here
'karma' has the same use here just as in reddit imo. it buries your post/comment but it is not as amplified as on reddit only because of the rate of new content made in lemmy. And when the mods get tired of modding in the future they would just bot it based on ... votes.
iirc someone already made a moderation bot for that.
Yeah, if we start introducing algorithms here it will lose any advantage.
...how exactly do you think posts and comments are sorted right now?
There's a difference between sorted versus hiding a reply because it has too low of a score, I don't think it's equivalent.
Yeah I really wish people in niche communities would just migrate over. I honestly don't understand why they haven't yet.
Because Reddit unites everyone with the same interest in a single or at worst few subreddits. Lemmy has over 9000 instances with a bunch of communities each, half of which are defederating the other half without their users even knowing. If we thought reddit search was bad, lemmy search is non-existent. I really wanted lemmy to work, but even for someone with decent knowledge about tech it was a nightmare to figure this out.
The main advantage of fediverse which is the decentralization turned out to be its main disadvantage with so much fragmentation and censorship in the form of defederation...
This stealth defederating is the worst.
I hoped Lemmy would blow up.
Blow up one server and three new will sprout.
This is basically asking why anyone would live in or near a city like Los Angeles or New York City when Minot exists and has everything you could possibly need.
If you had to look up where Minot even is, you've proven my point.
Say what you will about whether living near the proverbial big city is worth it or not. But it cannot be denied, there is a world of experiences on offer at larger platforms that a smaller platform simply cannot provide. Network effect can be a cruel mistress.
Why not Minot?
Season's the reason!
A lot of stuff ONLY has viable Q&A discussion there....
As much as I love the idea of Lemmy, try finding active communities here for: MAME or any other videogame emulation... Plex... The breed of your family dog/cat... Most any sort of non-Fedi-focused brand/podcast/personality...
Yes, I can create a new community. Then I just sit in it by myself, and occasionally deal with spam.
Discoverability is poor on Lemmy and isn't helped by the low user count.
Would be nice to revisit an old idea from Newsgroups, where you could sub to gaming and see everything, or gaming.playstation.ps5 or gaming.emulation.mame or whatever for sub-communities.
But then the decentralised nature works against it there as well.
Because people do not care. It is that simple.
As someone who only recently joined Lemmy (as a result of getting booted from Reddit) it ultimately comes down to it being bigger.
You can talk regularly about series have been over for a decade. Just about any niche interest has a vibrant community. The reality is the average person doesn't care about it selling our data, putting a fingerprint on our gear one step above spyware, it being overrun with bots, every level of administration being dominated by megalomaniacs. If you just want to look through some stuff you're interested in while you're bored, it serves a purpose that lemmy unfortunately can't at it's size.
These comments are so braindead, Jesus Christ.
You don't know why someone would use a social link aggregator.. and you're lamenting about this on a social link aggregator.
Why are you here?
Almost like they asked about a specific site and not the concept of link aggregators or something
Almost
It was still a brain-dead question, even for a rhetorical one.
Exactly. Really incomprehensible why are some people amazed at some things. We're all different, with different motives, different needs, different levels of coziness and different views on privacy etc.
Yeah, Reddit is not the ghost town I thought it would be after the mass exodus.
I don't get why more people didn't move to Lemmy or mbin
Inertia is a bitch. That's why.
Because most people did not use 3rd party apps and do not care about siteβ²s management. Why move to someplace else if everything works great where you already are.
In my case it didn't work great. Without 3rd party apps reddit died. I see your point tho. Some people are fine with a buggy ass client full of ads
Like we had a secret (or not so secret) desire for it to crumble so we can crack a beer and say good riddance. π
But in the end, business mostly as usual.
It's still active -- save the communities that got kneecapped by mods during the revolt (and sadly, most of those are now Discord-based rather than having any appreciable activity here).
The activity there now is a lot... dumber. Like much of the internet, the ratio of real people to braindead bots on Reddit is a lot different than a few years ago.
Most people donβt care. Iβm sick of hearing about Reddit, I left because I do care but I donβt want to keep hearing about my ex, you know!
We are not important, we are the minority that maybe cares about these things and thatβs ok, we should live our lives the way we want to and allow others to do the same.
Agreed. Yes, it's important to know what's going on in the "big" world - but I wish all of us more interested in Lemmy, the small web, and so on spent more time and energy on creating, maintaining, and enjoying what we can build/use and less lamenting, bashing, or wishing for what we want to leave behind.
Exactly! It reeks of superiority; I prefer to just live my life and if people are curious about the decisions I make then Iβll try and enlighten people, but if they donβt care still then thatβs ok. We canβt force people to be like us and wouldnβt want too either, because I wouldnβt want people to try and force me to go back to Reddit for instance.
For Twitter it really doesn't make sense because it has become undebatably a "Nazi bar", metaphorically since they aren't an actual bar, but they still support and tolerate Nazis (and other manners of horrible people).
Some people insist that it isn't and there are "normal level headed people there" but that doesn't matter, it's still a Nazi bar, because it accepts and tolerates Nazis.
How can someone expect to not be judged for going to and hanging out in a place like that?
because their friends are there
or in reddit's case, because they think their friends are there
Because people dream of making it big, being viral, being an influencer with a ton of followers and money. That one second of fame is still tantalising to a lot of people.
Also a lot of these apps (not reddit, but the others like Facebook) are installed on phones by default. To many, they are just what the internet is.
Nana and grandad used to do email. Now it's just racist rainbowflag-phobic reposting on Facebook and wondering why their grandkids that haven't looked at FB in a decade don't contact them.
Why does anyone still use chrome!
I get twitter and reddit because of the uniqueness of the platforms but chrome is just a web browser! Any other program can be used in its stead to view the same exact websites yet people continue to use it even being stubborn about it!
I use it for porn still
first Tumblr banned porn, then Reddit requires sign-in for 18+ content (I know old UI bypasses that), and now Twitter has become a walled garden as well. Bad times for gooners
Overall, because Lemmy is slow and boring mostly. I see headlines here and go to Reddit for the comments through the geddit crawler.
I gotta disagree with you here. At least on the sub(s) that I still - on the occasion of big events - take a glance at. To me, Reddit comments are the epitome of staleness and predictability. Also, their user base seems like a bunch of 40-year-old dads that mentally peaked at 16, but keep getting more racist by the year.
Tbh I cant ban subs so when I crawl R/all I get mostly bots, reposts and thirst traps which sucks but there is no long term discussion threads here. Nothing like a review thread on the movies sub or music subs, where there are hundreds or thousands of views to skim.
Why does anyone still use Reddit?
Some niche communities and content to repost on Lemmy
Why does anyone still use Instagram?
Friends and memes to repost on Lemmy
Complacency
Because social networks are only as good as the people who are on them.
reddit has half functioning search.
i seen a few people still use it my friend,some random people in a server,etc
Maybe because they just want to???
What's wrong with Instagram now?
Centralized and owned by meta. Harvesting your data constantly. Ads upon ads that track you. Proprietary.
Why does anyone still use reddit? Why does anyone still use Twitter? Why does anyone still use Instagram?
Reddit has an absolutely massive wealth of community knowledge. If you want to find a community for $thing or gain obscure knowledge on $thing, that's where you go (assuming there isn't an old forum post from before Reddit killed forums).
Twitter is where a lot of people still are. If you're the kind of person to care what a particular person says, that's where you probably want to be.
Instagram is used by young people who have friends on Instagram.
It isn't a great system, but it is the system that we have today. This is why legislation compelling Meta/Twitter/whothefuckever to act in an ethical manner is important. Social media is to some extent a natural oligopoly, and unless we get extremely, extremely lucky, the fediverse will always be a niche community.
Find me easier to access niche communities and I'll be gone from reddit. I hoped Lemmy would blow up. Instead, reddit just shrank.
Have fun trying to discuss anything that isn't about linux, american politics or reddit/amazon/elon bad!!. Lemmy is just a decentralized circle jerk.
Well i guess we should have seen it coming right. The people pissed enough with Reddit to leave were most likely to be technology proficient users and bourgeois hating leftists
Some of us prefer not drowning in bots and pathologically hostile individuals.
And some subreddits have fascist mods who arbitrarily ban anyone who's not a alt-right or worse.
And that too
Forgot people whose only opinion is hating the website they're on.
I do not hate the concept of lemmy and the fediverse, But I'm also not going to pretend that lemmy at its current state isn't a circle jerk. Lemmy needs more diverse groups of people. Like GrammerPolice said above, most people who migrated from reddit were people with very strong stance on their opinions. And there's intense hostility to anything that is even slightly against what they believe in.
Lemmy has in many ways been a successful copy of reddit; lemmy has many of the same faults as reddit.
I do feel like part of questioning process is what can possibly be adjusted to reduce some of the problems? Otherwise it just feels like generic poopooing like one might see on reddit.
This is true, but at the same time, your posts on let me don't get buried as easily. And the karma hear truly doesn't matter.
It's mildly frustrating that you can't post anything that's even remotely close to positive about any use of AI, or any positive information whatsoever about Tesla over SpaceX without being said that you're sucking musks cock. But in those respects the only thing different between Lemmy and Reddit is the number of people that will come to your defense, and of course in Reddit if no one comes to your defense your post is basically buried.
You're all so far less likely to have a reasonable post here removed. Yes it still happens, yes a few of the communities are still moderated by biased enough individuals to delete your content but it's much less prevalent than it was at reddit.
That said, yeah if you are mostly conservative you are going to have a very bad time trying to soapbox here
'karma' has the same use here just as in reddit imo. it buries your post/comment but it is not as amplified as on reddit only because of the rate of new content made in lemmy. And when the mods get tired of modding in the future they would just bot it based on ... votes.
iirc someone already made a moderation bot for that.
Yeah, if we start introducing algorithms here it will lose any advantage.
...how exactly do you think posts and comments are sorted right now?
There's a difference between sorted versus hiding a reply because it has too low of a score, I don't think it's equivalent.
Yeah I really wish people in niche communities would just migrate over. I honestly don't understand why they haven't yet.
Because Reddit unites everyone with the same interest in a single or at worst few subreddits. Lemmy has over 9000 instances with a bunch of communities each, half of which are defederating the other half without their users even knowing. If we thought reddit search was bad, lemmy search is non-existent. I really wanted lemmy to work, but even for someone with decent knowledge about tech it was a nightmare to figure this out. The main advantage of fediverse which is the decentralization turned out to be its main disadvantage with so much fragmentation and censorship in the form of defederation...
This stealth defederating is the worst.
Blow up one server and three new will sprout.
This is basically asking why anyone would live in or near a city like Los Angeles or New York City when Minot exists and has everything you could possibly need.
If you had to look up where Minot even is, you've proven my point.
Say what you will about whether living near the proverbial big city is worth it or not. But it cannot be denied, there is a world of experiences on offer at larger platforms that a smaller platform simply cannot provide. Network effect can be a cruel mistress.
Why not Minot?
Season's the reason!
A lot of stuff ONLY has viable Q&A discussion there....
As much as I love the idea of Lemmy, try finding active communities here for: MAME or any other videogame emulation... Plex... The breed of your family dog/cat... Most any sort of non-Fedi-focused brand/podcast/personality...
Yes, I can create a new community. Then I just sit in it by myself, and occasionally deal with spam.
Discoverability is poor on Lemmy and isn't helped by the low user count.
Would be nice to revisit an old idea from Newsgroups, where you could sub to gaming and see everything, or gaming.playstation.ps5 or gaming.emulation.mame or whatever for sub-communities.
But then the decentralised nature works against it there as well.
Because people do not care. It is that simple.
As someone who only recently joined Lemmy (as a result of getting booted from Reddit) it ultimately comes down to it being bigger.
You can talk regularly about series have been over for a decade. Just about any niche interest has a vibrant community. The reality is the average person doesn't care about it selling our data, putting a fingerprint on our gear one step above spyware, it being overrun with bots, every level of administration being dominated by megalomaniacs. If you just want to look through some stuff you're interested in while you're bored, it serves a purpose that lemmy unfortunately can't at it's size.
These comments are so braindead, Jesus Christ.
You don't know why someone would use a social link aggregator.. and you're lamenting about this on a social link aggregator.
Why are you here?
Almost like they asked about a specific site and not the concept of link aggregators or something
Almost
It was still a brain-dead question, even for a rhetorical one.
Exactly. Really incomprehensible why are some people amazed at some things. We're all different, with different motives, different needs, different levels of coziness and different views on privacy etc.
Yeah, Reddit is not the ghost town I thought it would be after the mass exodus.
I don't get why more people didn't move to Lemmy or mbin
Inertia is a bitch. That's why.
Because most people did not use 3rd party apps and do not care about siteβ²s management. Why move to someplace else if everything works great where you already are.
In my case it didn't work great. Without 3rd party apps reddit died. I see your point tho. Some people are fine with a buggy ass client full of ads
Like we had a secret (or not so secret) desire for it to crumble so we can crack a beer and say good riddance. π
But in the end, business mostly as usual.
It's still active -- save the communities that got kneecapped by mods during the revolt (and sadly, most of those are now Discord-based rather than having any appreciable activity here).
The activity there now is a lot... dumber. Like much of the internet, the ratio of real people to braindead bots on Reddit is a lot different than a few years ago.
Most people donβt care. Iβm sick of hearing about Reddit, I left because I do care but I donβt want to keep hearing about my ex, you know!
We are not important, we are the minority that maybe cares about these things and thatβs ok, we should live our lives the way we want to and allow others to do the same.
Agreed. Yes, it's important to know what's going on in the "big" world - but I wish all of us more interested in Lemmy, the small web, and so on spent more time and energy on creating, maintaining, and enjoying what we can build/use and less lamenting, bashing, or wishing for what we want to leave behind.
Exactly! It reeks of superiority; I prefer to just live my life and if people are curious about the decisions I make then Iβll try and enlighten people, but if they donβt care still then thatβs ok. We canβt force people to be like us and wouldnβt want too either, because I wouldnβt want people to try and force me to go back to Reddit for instance.
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For Twitter it really doesn't make sense because it has become undebatably a "Nazi bar", metaphorically since they aren't an actual bar, but they still support and tolerate Nazis (and other manners of horrible people). Some people insist that it isn't and there are "normal level headed people there" but that doesn't matter, it's still a Nazi bar, because it accepts and tolerates Nazis. How can someone expect to not be judged for going to and hanging out in a place like that?
because their friends are there
or in reddit's case, because they think their friends are there
Because people dream of making it big, being viral, being an influencer with a ton of followers and money. That one second of fame is still tantalising to a lot of people.
Also a lot of these apps (not reddit, but the others like Facebook) are installed on phones by default. To many, they are just what the internet is.
Nana and grandad used to do email. Now it's just racist rainbowflag-phobic reposting on Facebook and wondering why their grandkids that haven't looked at FB in a decade don't contact them.
Why does anyone still use chrome!
I get twitter and reddit because of the uniqueness of the platforms but chrome is just a web browser! Any other program can be used in its stead to view the same exact websites yet people continue to use it even being stubborn about it!
I use it for porn still
first Tumblr banned porn, then Reddit requires sign-in for 18+ content (I know old UI bypasses that), and now Twitter has become a walled garden as well. Bad times for gooners
Overall, because Lemmy is slow and boring mostly. I see headlines here and go to Reddit for the comments through the geddit crawler.
I gotta disagree with you here. At least on the sub(s) that I still - on the occasion of big events - take a glance at. To me, Reddit comments are the epitome of staleness and predictability. Also, their user base seems like a bunch of 40-year-old dads that mentally peaked at 16, but keep getting more racist by the year.
Tbh I cant ban subs so when I crawl R/all I get mostly bots, reposts and thirst traps which sucks but there is no long term discussion threads here. Nothing like a review thread on the movies sub or music subs, where there are hundreds or thousands of views to skim.
Some niche communities and content to repost on Lemmy
Friends and memes to repost on Lemmy
Complacency
Because social networks are only as good as the people who are on them.
reddit has half functioning search.
i seen a few people still use it my friend,some random people in a server,etc
Maybe because they just want to???
What's wrong with Instagram now?
Centralized and owned by meta. Harvesting your data constantly. Ads upon ads that track you. Proprietary.