Netanyahu says deadly Israeli strike in Rafah was the result of a 'tragic mistake'

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Netanyahu says deadly Israeli strike in Rafah was the result of a 'tragic mistake'
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TEL AVIV, Israel (AP) — Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Monday that a “tragic mistake” was made in an Israeli strike in the southern Gaza city of Rafah that set fire to a camp housing displaced Palestinians and, according to local officials, killed at least 45 people.

The strike only added to the surging international criticism Israel has faced over its war with Hamas, with even its closest allies expressing outrage at civilian deaths. Israel insists it adheres to international law even as it faces scrutiny in the world’s top courts, one of which last week demanded that it halt the offensive in Rafah.

“Despite our utmost efforts not to harm innocent civilians, last night there was a tragic mistake,” Netanyahu said Monday in an address to Israel’s parliament. “We are investigating the incident and will obtain a conclusion because this is our policy.”

Mohammed Abuassa, who rushed to the scene in the northwestern neighborhood of Tel al-Sultan, said rescuers “pulled out people who were in an unbearable state.”

“We pulled out children who were in pieces. We pulled out young and elderly people. The fire in the camp was unreal,” he said.

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“Despite our utmost efforts not to harm innocent civilians, last night there was a tragic mistake,” we bombed a densely populated refugee camp which we previously designated as a safe zone and burned women and children alive - Netanyahu said Monday in an address to Israel’s parliament.

...again.

Honestly, shit happens during the war. Yes, the mistakes should be investigated, guilty punished etc., but it is a big picture which is important, not a few incidents that are easy to use for propaganda and internet points.

In my mind there are 3 questions that needs to be answered

  1. is war justified?
  2. what is civilian to military kill ratio (basically to see if civilians are killed without care)
  3. what are the goals of the war, what are post war plans

For the first question, I do not know how anyone with straight face can say that the war is not justified when a neighbor attacks you and purposely and barbarously kills 1300 people and takes about 200 hostages.

For the second quested, it is urban warfare, and if anyone cares to check, the ratio of 10 to 1 (civilian to military) is quite typical. In this war, Israel achieves ratio of better than 2 to 1, which says to me that IDF is really careful not to kill civilians unnecessarily.

It is the question (3) where I have problem with right now. Mostly because it is right wing government in Israel and there is no clear out of war path suggested after Hamas is destroyed. But here we can wait and see. Israel is a democracy and I hope her people will make right decision.

is war justified?
what is civilian to military kill ratio (basically to see if civilians are killed without care)
what are the goals of the war, what are post war plans

For the first question, I do not know how anyone with straight face can say that the war is not justified when a neighbor attacks you and purposely and barbarously kills 1300 people and takes about 200 hostages.

For those of us with calendars that go back past October 7th the question about justification is a lot more complicated. Don't forget that Israel has killed more than 10x as many women and children than were killed on October 7th, and have destroyed medical support and denied food and housing to the CIVILIAN population of Gaza as retribution. Also, Israel continues to colonize Palestine violently both as the government and as settler groups supported by the Israeli government.

If you want to talk retribution, guess what led to October 7th? Both sides are doing horrible shit, but one side has enough power to stop the current ongoing atrocity against the other side's civilian population and that side it Israel. If they stopped attacking civilians in the 'safe zones' and actually let aid and food then I might have some sympathy for them.

For the second quested, it is urban warfare, and if anyone cares to check, the ratio of 10 to 1 (civilian to military) is quite typical. In this war, Israel achieves ratio of better than 2 to 1, which says to me that IDF is really careful not to kill civilians unnecessarily.

Yeah, so careful they murdered a Reuters journalist across the border in Lebanon with a tank.

Believing Israel's enemy combatant assessment is. Well. It pretty much speaks for itself.

For total number of casualties I take Hamas number. For militant casualties, Hamas does not give any number, so, I have to use Israeli number as the most reliable. By the way, Israeli number for civilian casualties is also not so far from Hamas.

You are full of shit.

Stop spreading your zionist propaganda

The "war" is a genocide and not justified

There is 10:1 or more Civillians killed per combatant. 2/3 of the victims are women and childen

This is not typical or good. Even the Nazis had a better ratio at the Eastern Front and they burned down villages and did mass executions of the survivors. But well Israel does too, but before they also bomb everything to crumbs and then burn down the crumbs.

That’s false. Only half are women and children wiki. Your 10:1 ratio is taken out of your behind, but even that ratio is typical urban warfare ratio. Just Google.

Reminder that they tuned Lavender to a ratio of 20 civilian per vaguely suspected hamas member at the beginning of the war, when most deaths occurred. They put the cursor on genocide. You're a joke with your 2:1 allegations

In this war, Israel achieves ratio of better than 2 to 1

Hamas has been almost halved by the war?

Hamas: 40k members - Wiki

Death toll: “As of 21 May 2024, over 37,000 people (35,562 Palestinian and 1,478 Israeli) have been reported as killed in the Israel–Hamas war” - Wiki

Yes, and with 14,000 militant killed, the civilian number is 35K - 14K = 21K. Civilian to militant casualties is 21:14, or smaller than 2:1. That’s all.

Israel is a democracy - a democracy that keeps millions of its constituents in an open air prison and occasionally genocides them, but a democracy, and therefore righteous and good.

I’m glad we cleared that up.

Israel making an awful lot of "mistakes" lately...

It only becomes a mistake when legacy media fail to cover it up and report on it instead.

The whole war is a civilian meat grinder. How are they possibly saying oops we made this one mistake?

The "tragic mistake" in his head is that he couldn't kill more. Because he is a sociopath. Fuck Bibi.

In the dialect of Arabic spoken in my country, Morocco, the term "bibi" means turkey, the animal.

So yeah, Benjamin Netanyahu is a turkey. And I'm telling the Israeli people to do the same thing the Dutch did: eat their prime minister.

30k+ mistake. Yeah right. The slaughter continues. This was not the first and it won't be the last

He's right. Selling him the weapons to do it was a tragic mistake.

It was a total coincidence that it happened right after Hamas fired rockets at Tel-Aviv for the first time in months. \s

Yeah that’s the problem with stooping to exchange low blows with a terrorist group: you become a terrorist group. With nukes.

USS Liberty was also a mistake they said... That's how we got into this shit in the first place.

It was a mistake. The mistake was the US not cutting all ties with Israel immediately.

He wanted them to starve instead so they won't count as "war victims" according to the established rules.

Now they officially count as civil victims of the war, which will be a key variable for the ICC.

Funny, when it first happened they had officials saying this was because rockets were fired at Tel Aviv from Gaza.

It's pretty clear that the people in Gaza are being collectively punished for Hamas attacks. Shoot rockets at us, we'll shoot our rockets at people living in tents in your territory. That will teach you.

He considers it a tragic mistake that he got caught, not that it happened.

If Silia Kapsis calls you a liar, then you are a liar. (I'm referring to Benny Net n' Yahoo btw)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


TEL AVIV, Israel (AP) — Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Monday that a “tragic mistake” was made in an Israeli strike in the southern Gaza city of Rafah that set fire to a camp housing displaced Palestinians and, according to local officials, killed at least 45 people.

Israel insists it adheres to international law even as it faces scrutiny in the world’s top courts, one of which last week demanded that it halt the offensive in Rafah.

An initial investigation found that the soldier had responded to an exchange of fire between Israeli forces and Palestinian militants, Egypt’s state-owned Qahera TV reported.

The militant group launched a barrage of rockets Sunday from the city toward heavily populated central Israel, setting off air raid sirens but causing no injuries.

Separately, the chief prosecutor at the International Criminal Court is seeking arrest warrants against Netanyahu and Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, as well as three Hamas leaders, over alleged crimes linked to the war.

Associated Press writers Zeke Miller in Washington, Kirsten Grieshaber in Berlin, Jon Gambrell in Dubai, United Arab Emirates, and Colleen Barry in Rome contributed to this report.


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Netanyahu did not elaborate on the error.

Yeah, that tells a lot.

Pretty sure it's time someone glassed Israel.

The answer to the ruthless indiscriminate killing of civilians is not more ruthless indiscriminate killing of civilians

Does glass ng mean attacking civilians? I don't know. But if you say war is bad etc etc, then we would've been living in a whole different nazi world.

The answer to ruthless indiscriminate killing of civilians is more ruthless killing of oppressors.

Glass is referring to nuking Israel. You can't nuke a country without killing a fuck ton of civilians.

Wait really? I thought glassing means beating up people with a broken bottle

No, it's when you bomb the shit out of something so much that only glass remains. It's usually referring to nukes because they get hot enough to turn sand to glass.

I know of the Scottish slang meaning to hit someone usually by headbutting. Never knew the nuke meaning.

Israel's atrocity is mass murdering civilians. Calling for the same as a response is horrible.

They didn't say anything about civilians

You know that glassing the country means nuking it, right?

You do know civilians live in the country that they said to glass, right?

You know that means ALL the civilians would die, right?

Right?

Yes, but in reality nobody is going to nuke anybody, and certainly not because a random internet user vents their frustration at the situation with a clearly metaphorical and exaggerated request. Your reply was an overly literal reading of the comment, like replying to "go fuck yourself" with "...you realize that's not possible, right?"

I simply replied to your literal interpretation with a literal interpretation of my own.

I simply replied to your literal interpretation with a literal interpretation of my own.

That makes literally no sense.

You can't nuke a country without killing civilians.

Sure you can, move the civilians out first.

You're suggesting the complete displacement of every civilian in Israel, which is pretty fucked.

No, they can return after the country has been glassed.

Return to what, exactly? A barren radioactive wasteland?

Of course a nuked country will be a nuked country. That's beside the point, moving the goalposts.

I'm not sure what you think moving the goalposts means, but it doesn't mean what you think it does.

I'm just pointing out the how horribly flawed your position is and responding to you moving the goalposts.

My guy, you should stop feeding the troll. I can keep coming up with bullshit indefinitely. The intent of my original facetious reply was to point out how ridiculous it is to react to a clearly ridiculous and unrealistic suggestion as if it was the most seriously considered expression of an actual policy suggestion ever. But it turns out some people just can't not take every single thing that is said with the utmost seriousness.

Fuck that shit. We are better than that. Despite all the Zionists efforts we will not let them kill our humanity like they want.

Stop the Genocide! End the Occupation! Create a Free Palestine! Give back the stolen Land! Compensate all Victims and put all criminals to justice!