Trump a ‘danger to US security’, say generals ahead of Harris debate

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Trump a ‘danger to US security’, say generals ahead of Harris debate
telegraph.co.uk

Retired military generals have described Donald Trump as a “danger” to America’s security as they endorsed Kamala Harris.

On the eve of a critical debate between Ms Harris and her Republican rival, 10 former top US military chiefs released a letter calling the vice-president the only candidate “who is fit to serve” in the country’s highest office.

While Ms Harris had “demonstrated her ability to take on the most difficult national security challenges in the Situation Room and on the international stage”, they wrote, Trump posed “a danger to our national security and democracy”.

The letter, signed by retired General Larry Ellis and retired Rear Admiral Michael Smith, among others, accused Trump of disparaging service members and putting them in “harm’s way”, including with his deal to free 5,000 Taliban fighters.

It coincided with a new Harris campaign advert placed in Palm Beach featuring Trump’s most senior former officials warning of the risks of his White House return.

The attack advert shows a montage of scathing comments about the Republican ex-president by some of his most senior former cabinet officials in what appears to be an effort to goad him ahead of their televised live showdown on Tuesday night.

“In 2016, Donald Trump said he would choose only the best people to work in his White House,” the attack advert’s narrator said. “Now those people have a warning for America: Trump is not fit to be president again.”

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I want to be the one to point out that retired generals making political statements is heavily frowned upon, so for them to take a step beyond that and ENDORSE A CANDIDATE is practically unheard of except in fringe cases like Michael Flynn.

Upper brass is a pretty exclusive club, and retirees don't generally make political statements to avoid stepping on the toes of the currently serving generals/admirals. If multiple generals/admirals felt the need to take this step, they would've done it with the knowledge and consent of current leadership.

Do you Michael Flynn the convicted felon?

You mean when the FBI heavily edited Flynn's 302 form to the point they were “trying not to completely re-write” it?

I'm not surprised the Cato institute has the back of a general who was caught taking money from foreign governments

An ad hominem argument, and the charge that was pled guilty to then withdrawn was "lying to the FBI", evidenced only by the suspicious fd-302. Not an Emoluments Clause violation.

Top Ranking US Military Generals are WOKE and HATE AMERICA! The OBVIOUS Patriot is the One who Stole Documents and calls US Troops Losers and Suckers!

Why should we listen to a Rear Admiral, anyway? Shouldnt our military be out front, not in the rear?

Wait, but the folks on lemmy.ml told me that a vote for Kamala was the same as voting for Trump, especially the single issue voters on Palestine. How is it possible that Trump is more dangerous‽

/s

I can confidently say that Kamala Harris will never be President of lemmy.ml

bit of an overgeneralization there mate

.ml user detected, opinion ignored.

Do you think that we give a fucking shit what US military generals have to say?

It seems to have upset you. Are the other MAGA campaigners equally mad?

All of the US's generals should be in prison, not giving interviews. They're some of the worst people on Earth and their endorsement of Harris should make you extremely concerned.

Also, America was never great.

I actually think MAGAs such as yourself are also amongst the worst people on Earth. You love genocide so much you want Donald back in to "finish the job" in Gaza, bomb the fuck out of Yemen, aid Russia in demolishing Ukraine. Along with ensuring human rights erode even further in America. It is disgusting that you are on here every day campaigning for Donald.

"If you're not with us you're with the enemy!"

Harris is going to help Israel finish the job in Palestine. They're already expanding the extermination campaign into the West Bank right now, and she will just continue Biden's unlimited support for Israel.

And that's why she's being endorsed by generals. They love genocide.

EDIT also we're bombing Yemen

If you're not against the worst option you are for the worst option. You are a MAGA.

You want it to happen faster and more thoroughly, and you want genocides elsewhere. You want LGBT people scared and closeted for their safety. You want mass deportations in America. You are a disgusting individual, especially pretending to care about this issue to campaign on behalf of such an awful piece of shit.

I'm trans. They're going to fucking kill me.

I still won't vote for genocide. I'd rather die.

Nah, you just think you won't be subjected to it, like all the other people campaigning for Donald every day. Like all MAGAs, you love the genocide and human rights abuses happening to everyone you hate even if it harms groups that include you.

I'm in a red state! I half expect them try to take away my hormones no matter who wins the election, but it's definitely more likely if Trump wins (or, more likely, gets his fascist Court to steal the election)

Like all Blue MAGAs, you are happy to inflict genocide on Palestinians to save your own skin.

Classic lemmy.ml MAGA cosplaying as a leftist. Pretend all you want that "Blue MAGA" is a real thing, nobody takes that seriously. It's disgusting that you recognize your genocidal MAGA cult is despicable enough that you attempt to stick the label on everything else, yet you still campaign for Donald every day.

Blue MAGA is every cultist that is enabling genocide by voting for it.

If Harris knew she was going to lose for her unconditional support for Israel then she would change her positions.

It's your fault that she won't.

You'd rather kill everyone in Gaza than stand up against your cult leader.

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I truly don't understand your reasoning here. I'm not trying to be antagonistic, I just simply don't get it. Even if the parties were functionally equivalent, wouldn't a better treatment of folks domestically be a better option than changing nothing? It seems like functionally abstaining from voting is saying that some kind of protest vote is more important than the treatment of folks who are being demonized by the far right...or more important than people's access to abortion and proper medical care...or even shitty attempts at combating climate change.

You claim that voting for the Democrats is inflicting genocide on Palestinians to save one's own skin.

I'm going to say that not voting, or voting for a candidate that has absolutely no chance of winning, is inflicting genocide on Palestinians and folks domestically.

It absolutely pains my bleeding heart that the DNC is so deeply corrupt and shitty, and way too happy to bomb civilians abroad. Absolutely despicable.

The GOP is worse. The GOP is also worse on the domestic front.

Trump has literally said that Israel should "finish the job". https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-criticized-palestinian-insult-debate-with-biden-2024-06-28/

So yeah...it's morally compromising to vote for the DNC candidates for any number of reasons, but until the way we vote changes in the USA, it's the least worst option when it comes to voting. It also does not preclude us from trying to change the system outside of voting. It doesn't stop protesting, or mutual aid or other actions.

TLDR: It's just the trolley problem, and call me a maniac, but if I can press a button that saves even one life, even if it makes me feel slightly morally complicit in the deaths of others, then shit...I consider it the price of being human in the world we're shackled to.

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“If you’re not with us you’re with the enemy!”

Holy shit the lack of self reflection here is at epic levels of ridiculous.

I'm literally being told that, if I don't vote for Harris, I am voting for Trump. Even though I'm literally not voting for Trump.

What I'm saying is, if you vote for genocide, you are voting for genocide. Because the candidate you're voting for is part of the administration doing genocide, and they're promising to not stop the genocide.

Kinda different 🙄

I can read what you're being told. I can also read what you're saying. And I can also see how funny it is that someone who is creating the false dichotomy of the election being "voting for/against genocide" is hilariously and hypocritically chastising people for saying "you're either for us or against us."

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Bad Commie! Bad!

Now go sit in the corner and think about what you can do to help create unity between the proletariat, not sow discord.

What about the proletariat being butchered and starved and tortured by the IDF?

I feel bad for them, and wish Netenyahu a speedy trip to the ICC. I would wish the same on former Presidents, but I don't want The US to bomb The Hague.

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Wacky generals, who only got 3 stars at most in the military, they got fired like dogs. They never made it, never will. They begged me for a job, tears in their eyes, I said Ok. People in the military hated them. They were vicious, but not smart. I would rarely see them but heard ...really bad things. Nasty to people &, would constantly miss meetings &, salutes. When Gen. Kelly came on board he was a loser &, nothing but problems.

-@RealDonaldTrump

It’s so sad that this could easily be a real tweet. Only the consistency of the punctuation errors tips me off that it isn’t.

Our international partners began moderating the intelligence they would share while Trump was in office. They couldn't trust him to not blab about state secrets during dinner parties just to try to impress people with how smart and important he was.

he wasn't fit the first time. he was NEVER fucking fit

i wouldn't trust him to walk my dog. and she passed on years ago

He'd use your dog's remains for some sort of tax scam and throw you under the bus saying it was your idea.

Or a voting scam

"Hmm, it says here that Sir Barkinwoof IV is a registered Republican. If there is some discrepancy out must be the fault of the former owner"

If appeals to conscious thought worked on Repubs, Donald wouldn't have gotten in there in 2016 to prove he is unfit. Unfortunately, all Repubs are dimwitted cultists or sociopaths.

People aren't really targeting the cultists. We are targeting the undecideds with these statements, or the people who think democrat policies are bad, but at the same times are not sure about supporting trump.

'danger to US security'

Oh yes that's one of his finest qualities.

Trump is a danger to lgbtq people

Trump is a danger to illegal aliens

Trump is a danger to progressives and liberals

That’s all some people want to hear.

I heard she’s a nasty woman. Very mean.

I hope she hides a machete in the lectern and then starts insulting him til it builds into a mighty crescendo, when she whips out the machete and runs over to him screaming “AAAaaaarghhh!!!!” As his diaper overloads, she drops the machete and starts laughing and pointing at him.

sigh

But, it’ll be a sad spectacle with one intelligent, informed, competent woman and one sniffling, demented, sociopathic, rapist man. I’ve already seen enough of those.

I hope she hides Biden under the podium and he literally executes Donald. But it's an Official Act™, so it is totally legal and totally cool.

Not fit to be president again? As if he was fit the first time?

RETIRED..

I just want to point out, that it was RETIRED military Generals, with a letter just like this one, who got DADT repealed back in 2010, and allowed our LGBTQ brothers and sister to serve openly.

Oh I know. It's just unfortunate that only the retired ones can speak freely

Bruh, I've been Enlisted for ~15 years now. I 100% agree.

I want the DoD leadership to address Project 2025 so badly.

I want them to publicly condemn/shame Christopher Miller and Paul Dans for their extremely dangerous rhetoric, and their assistance in drafting that egregiously violent document.

Ugh, fucking if only.

Problem is if Trump gets back in he'll clean house as much as possible so it's better to have people remain quiet and keep their heads down so they're in place to stop anything he tries as opposed to making it obvious they need to be removed by a tyrant.

What are you implying about this? That it's a useless comment because they aren't active? Or because they aren't active they are free to speak their mind on the matter?