Ex-Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio will be sentenced for seditious conspiracy in the Jan. 6 attack
Former Proud Boys national leader Enrique Tarrio is set to be sentenced on Wednesday for a failed plot to keep Donald Trump in power after the Republican lost the 2020 presidential election, capping one of the most significant prosecutions in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.
Prosecutors are seeking 33 years behind bars for Tarrio, who had already been arrested and ordered to leave Washington, D.C., by the time Proud Boys members joined thousands of Trump supporters in storming the Capitol as lawmakers met to certify Democrat Joe Biden’s 2020 electoral victory. But prosecutors say Tarrio organized and led the group’s assault from afar, inspiring followers with his charisma and penchant for propaganda.
Tarrio was a top target in one of the most important Capitol riot cases prosecuted by the Justice Department. He and three lieutenants were convicted in May of charges including seditious conspiracy — a rarely brought Civil War-era offense that the Justice Department levied against members of far-right groups who played a key role in the Jan. 6 attack.
As much as I know the prison system is broken and terrible, this guy deserves what he is getting.
He led an attempt to overthrow the fucking government. Anybody who tries to obfuscate that fact or justify what happened is playing a dangerous game. It was lucky that the violence didn't escalate to an even more serious degree, and turn this nation on its head more than it already has. What they attempted to do has irrevocably damaged American society, and the strength of our democracy.
Therefore, I hope he serves all 33 years.
I'm all for reforming the prison system. However I think it's funny these people are crying about it now that they are subject to it after not caring about others in the prison system.
Commit domestic terrorist acts get domestic terrorist sentences.
.>Commit domestic terrorist acts get domestic terrorist sentences.
I mean, they said it....
Finally some punishments that fit the crime. None of this 6 weeks in prison bullshit like some of these J6 people have been getting. Heck, this traitor deserves a one-way trip in front of a firing squad, but 33 years is fine too.
Now let's see what he actually gets sentences with.
I'm going to get shit for this.
While I believe that Trump knew exactly what he was saying, and I'm sure there were people who knew what they were doing.... The vast majority of those people are just deeply deeply stupid individuals who had no planning whatsoever and got wrapped up with a dumb dumb crowd being riled up by key individuals.
6 weeks in federal prison in addition to having to keep a job as a federal felon isn't exactly a slap on the wrist. Most of what I would call organizers are being tried pretty heavily and those cases take longer against better equipped defendants. I don't think being punitive for the idiots is the best strategy politically either.
I agree. The person yelling "FIRE" in the theater is far more guilty than the idiots stampeding to get out.
Not only were a lot of these people stupid but a lot were likely YUGE losers who finally felt important for the first time in their lives, after Trump blew all that smoke up their asses about being great Patriots.
Won't these people lose gun rights if they are felons? (Not American so not sure)
Except that they were all yelling fire. Oh wait! They were all yelling “kill all the congress critters” and “all hail Emperor Trump”. I’d say that makes the lot of them anything but innocent or stupid people caught up in something they didn’t understand.
For contrast, if a few hundred African Americans with guns stormed the US capital for any reason at all, most would have been shot and the remainder would be facing life imprisonment. It’s only the fact the most were white or white oriented that has protected any of the coup members from facing the legitimate consequences of their actions. And the same forces will eventually allow them to prevail and ensure the US becomes a theocratic ethnostate. Or at least more of one than it already is.
Good points. I depressingly agree with you but still think the ringleaders are more guilty.
I don't disagree that black protesters would have been handled far more violently. It still doesn't change my opinion that it was a premeditated coup.
I am not a lawyer but personally don't think these people satisfy the mens rea aspects at all and as such shit be by law treated with a lesser degree crime then those escalating what I believe was genuine protesting among the majority population.
I know that's not how a black crowd would be treated, that is a separate challenge that must be addressed.
They went to a rally where Trump told them Congress was full of traitors and to storm the building to make sure they didn’t remove him from office. That crowd knew exactly what they were doing. The only reason they get the benefit of ac doubt from you or anyone is because our society has taught us that those who are considered white can largely do whatever they like… especially if it involves violence. That’s all it is. That’s the benefit of white privilege at its peak: that a bunch of white people and their little cronies are even allowed to overturn the results of an election using violence and face minimal consequences.
The only thing they did wrong was they were unsuccessful. Had they succeeded everyone would be praising them like they were liberators. 🙄
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I love that this didn't age even a day before one of these guys gets 15 years 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Topkek.
Tbh this is a situation where I love being proven wrong 🤣
Have you actually read about what the proud boys did? They didn't just show up to protest. They had weapons and bombs cached outside the city and were fully prepared to take violent action against the Senate on Jan. 6th
Letting these people off easy is how you get fascism. Hitler got a slap on the wrist for the beer hall putsch and it just encouraged him even more. These people are actual traitors who don't deserve your mercy.
This aged well. Almost was a day before one of those guys got 15 years.
Again, that was only a portion of the crowd. Those that have provable pre-meditated conspirial plans would be tried with intent and a harsher penalty as defined in most codes. Ianal so the actual fed charging standards may differ from the state ones that work that way where I have awareness.
Na na na na
Na na na na
Hey, hey! Goodbye!
I thought it was only seven "na"s.
No, he has the nas right, it's the heys he's short on.
Is the second 'hey' not a long 'hey?' That's how it always sounded to me.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JnEPTG6K4pY
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IoyvvEWHodk
Looks like it has morphed a bit over the years, so both versions do exist. But you’re right about the original number of ‘hey’s. I concede the number of heys as two to you.
Very important these things.
Thank you for confirming this vital information which is definitely an important piece of the Enrique Tarrio story.
Sorry, who?
Finally once the mandala effect does not apply.
May he rot.
Apologies in advance for stupid questions as I'm not American but.. just been reading up on Proud Boys and that guy is not how shall I say.. white?
So
Some people think if you hate the same people hard enough, you're on the same side -- and the Proud Boys were happy to have someone brown as their front guy for a while there. "See? It's about values!"
The reality is that plenty of them hate his guts for not being white, I remember these guys split into two factions a while back based ok whether they would accept brown people who hated other brown people hard enough or not.
Extremists will happily accept the help of people they dislike when they're weak, particularly if it lends them legitimacy.
When they gain power the purges start.
https://www.rawstory.com/amp/civil-war-brewing-inside-proud-boys-as-top-leader-says-hes-done-pretending-isnt-a-nazi-2649553246
There was a bit of a kerfuffle over that. I don't follow it closely enough to know how that turned out.
Racists are generally sheltered, easily lead, uneducated, and guillible.
True racism isnt generally caused by people they know, its by being told that "they" are taking your jobs, stealing your welfare, clogging your hospitals, driving your living costs up, etc, etc.
Its a tool used by the powerful to divert attention. The easily lead take it at face value and hate "them". If they meet a "reformed" person of colour, they see them as "one of the good ones".
While these racists can be outwardly horrible to individuals, they typically dont "hate" the person. They hate "them". The group that doesnt really exist, that they are told are making their own life worse.
A great example is in the Louis Theroux documentary, Louis and the Nazis. He spends time with various white supremacists, and while hanging out with one of the community leaders he meets his TV repair man, a Mexican man that has been servicing his televisions for years who the white supremacist leader considers a friend. One of the leaders side kicks is also fucking a Mexican woman.
The Mexicans that they know are "the good ones". Its the rest of "them" that are the problem in their eyes.
Its an unfortunately common occurence in people that they can be presented with direct evidence contrary to their beliefs, but they are so far gone down their rabbit hole that they consider the evidence as either an outlier or anomoly and not somethign worth analysing in terms of their perception.
He was one of the voices for Latinos For Trump. The Proud Boys are not against black or Latino people.
Just read the hearings are rescheduled for Tuesday, Sept 5th. Judge is out sick.
I'm a bit surprised, but happy to see this.
The sentencing won't be happening today after all. The judge fell ill today, so it'll be delayed until some time next week.
33 years would be satisfactory.
33 years? Doesn't possessing pot net you 25? 33 years for seditious treason doesn't seem like a serious enough sentence.
United States Justice system is a joke.
No, it doesn't. Where are you getting your info?
Possessing Pot by offense count, min-max sentence, min-max fine
(3 is actually 3+ but that does weird things to the list format.)
Separately, Seditious Conspiracy has a max jail time of 20 years (I couldn't find any cap on its fine), so this means Tarrio is being sentenced for both it and at least 1 other charge (which could be a second count of the same for all I know).
Except pot is likely being charged at the state level and not federal. That'll be different for every state and some could have egregious punishments. Not that that says you're wrong or the other guy is right. Just some context.
9 other counts - https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/case-multi-defendant/file/1510966/download
I guess we'll just pretend there aren't hordes of people in the US serving decades for weed, then.
Among several reasons your statement is disingenuous is the incredibly significant point that many weed crimes are not possession. I replied to someone discussing possession with more discussion of possession. Many people are serving time for "weed" without serving time for possession, which you absolutely knew when you posted your comment.
Fuck off with this bullshit. Aside from drugging someone without their consent, there are no "weed crimes" that justify imprisonment, let alone more time than many people get for actually kilking someone.
The only other things you can do with weed are buying it, selling it, posessing it, and using it. Despite being illegal, none of those are actual crimes.
Pretty sure that was sarcasm/hyperbole.
Edit: Apparently people are touchy today... Yeesh
Agreed. Prison in the US is tortuous and that is the point. It ruins your prospects when you get out, too. Ensuring crime is more likely. Prison in the US is absolutely pointless in the vast majority of cases to actually decrease crime.
America also has disproportionately long prison sentences for all types of crimes. 33 years ensures this person will be ~72yo when he gets out. So he will immediately be on medicare and likely retired, if possible. At that point, the only reason to not just execute a person is because you could later overturn the conviction.
We keep people in prison so long we're effectively denying them any more life while also spending huge gobs of money to do so AND also denying them any productivity to benefit society. It really is just about the American bloodthirst for revenge.