Know what I don't miss from reddit? Every other post with "1 comment" but it's just fricking automoderator

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Thats not 1 comment, that's 0 comments.

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Hey! Look at that, all the words that where used in this comment where words!

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where used in this comment where words!

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Imagine a Beowulf cluster of haikus!

beowulf cluster has only five syllables a haiku has five

Sweet jeebers, I hope this is comedy. I laughed, but 99+% of the bots roaming Reddit are nothing but a drag, and I hope there's a way to block all bots here.

I believe bot accounts actually have a 'bot' tag applied to them, so in theory, yes! Just has to be added.

Added by me, or by the site's software?

Sorry, I'm a doddering old man.

Haha, no worries. Either would work, really, lemmy/kbin could add it as an option, or somebody could make an extension/app to do it.

Lemmy does allow you to set a user as a bot, and there's a separate checkmark to only see posts from non bots as I recall

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I would say that some bots were useful. Like the one that would convert the units from "freedom" oned to ones that actually make sense (or the other way around).

Also, I like the bot that summarized the article.

Lemmy needs a remindmebot, but built in

we've had calendar apps for years. I hated how that would litter comment threads.

Nope. Remindmebot was easier, quicker and reminded you in the thread you were reading.

If we can just use calendars, why do we have todo apps then?

"Remindme" type bots are a band aid fix. Can you imagine if instead, the app/website/service provided that ? I shouldn't have to see what you save now should I.

For the second point, mostly because nobody made an app that combined the two well and/or was popular. The "simple calendar" app let's you create events AND tasks. I honestly don't even get what you're trying to get at with your second point.

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What really pisses me off are entire comment threads filled with "happy cake day!". Like that adds anything to the conversation. There's 1/365 chance that any comment is made on their anniversary. It's not that rare when there's hundreds of millions of people posting (or whatever smaller percentage actually post)

It was even worse when they added commenting it as a feature to the official app.

You're kidding me. They did?

Yeah, you'd press a button next to a commenters name. That's why you'd see so many with the exact same phrasing.

Awful.

I would always report everyone saying that as spam

Does Lemmy show them? If I look on your profile it literally says "Cake Day: (date)"

But I'm not sure if it would flag your account on that day.

Yes Lemmy also shows cake day on the comments. There will be a lot of those a year from now.

I am not going to miss when I make a post that I really need help with and for the only reply to be "happy cakeday"

That bothered me less than whenever some thread got successful and a mod decided that their input deserved to be viewed as the top comment, so they pinned it to the thread. 95% of the time those comments had nothing to do with reddit moderation, just a normal comment that wouldn't have even been upvoted if it hadn't been made in sudo mode.

Allowing mods to pin comments was a mistake. Was always going to be abused.

Basically the only times I've ever been banned from a sub is by asking "why is this comment pinned" lol

There will be automods here as well...

They don't have to behave the same way fortunately, like auto replying to every thread posted.

They likely will do some day because most people don't read what the sidebar says...

It can be implemented directly, though. Like as a site feature showing a message above the comment form, not as a bot making posts.

Ask yourself, did automod actually help that?

The thing about automod comments is that they were, indeed, comments. As such, they showed up in your replies.

So if you made a post, you'd get that message in a place you would expect to see content that you would actually want to engage with, that is, people discussing your post.

So, in short, yes.

Honestly I think that's just a failing of community ethos. It'd be nice to bring back the expectation that people make the bare minimum attempt to check the rules of a community they're trying to participate in, and let moderators just assume that everyone has read the sidebar rules. If you haven't, and you break a rule by accident... well, tough luck, you'll get the same treatment as everyone else. Next time, read before posting.

Maybe we can have automod comments not count, or something like that.

I am also glad to no longer see those stupid reply memes that everyone felt compelled to use. "This" or "This is the way". It gave me second-hand embarrassment. It seemed like no one could think to reply for themselves anymore.

To be fair, if fediverse ever takes off, they'll probably need those automods to prevent things from getting out of control.

The potential loss of automods was also one of the things people were worried about with the API changes.

I'm potentially in the minority here, but what drove me up the wall were threads on a very interesting original post, whose comments were just endless chains of puns and lazy jokes, rather than any actual discussion.

I wonder how many of those comments were actually bots or nowadays generated by AI!

A few are, but I think most aren't. It would be easy bot bait, but at the same time, it's also fairly context-sensitive in a way that would let a fair few users pick up on someone being a bot or not.

Although that doesn't mean that you can't have bots that are in on the joke.

People with x in name, how would you do y.

It's always bots with prepared names

We need an instance where every community is full of self-perpetuated botspam. Then every other instance can defederate from it.

This is the one time i support defederation

Semi-related, Wikipedia discussion pages used to be left blank, with a red link, unless there was actually discussion there. Now every article has a boilerplate article quality scale rating template, a notice about when to use or not use the discussion page, etc. pasted onto the talk page as soon as it's created. I miss seeing a rare blue talk page link and going "I wonder what weird stuff people are saying in the talk page for Alex Kidd in Shinobi World."

We'll almost certainly have the same once someone develops an Automoderator-bot.

Although it might be unavoidable. Some of them were handy for letting the users help keep a sub on-topic, by letting them vote spam posts to be removed before the moderators had time to get around to deal with reports, or saw those posts for themselves.

Others, like Locationbot on /r/legaladvice might be to keep an archive of the post, so that users can read and comment on it, even after the original has been removed, but without them having to go and leave a link elsewhere.

Both of those would be pretty handy for Lemmy as well as Reddit, and I would not be surprised if someone ended up making more of the same, sooner or later.

Something that might be nice, is if Lemmy had a way for users to silently summon bots to a thread, so you didn't have a bunch of threads that were just users summoning DownloaderBot, or setting a reminder for themselves.

We’ll almost certainly have the same once someone develops an Automoderator-bot.

But unlike reddit, lemmy is FOSS and as such people could implement a feature to not count comments made by accounts marked as bots. So only comments (supposedly) made by humans count towards the comment count.

Maybe someone will find a way to mod or extend an instance in some way which removes the necessity to add a comment. Like a "pre comment alert" plugin. If Lemmy had some form of extensions api it would certainly be possible

I didn't necessarily mind the automod comments, but I did hate the fact that there was no way to disable them for subscribers of a sub. It got very obnoxious very quickly.

I ended up unsubscribing from one of the Mod Support subs because every single thread was like this. There were at least four or five automod comments on every post. It was so fucking obnoxious.

I hope that there's lack of a need for auto-mod at Lemmy in the future, as I expect each individual community to be smaller.

There's pretty much nothing stopping anyone from doing that here, though.

While true, we already have tools to work around it here. Accounts can be flagged as bots, and you can auto-hide posts from bot accounts.

I'm assuming an auto-mod would bypass that by design, but it'll work against the flood of student projects that Reddit threads were full of.

I'm using Lemmy on desktop. The option of Apollo on desktop would have been game changing for me. The advertisements were messing with my mind!

You can use Apollo on desktop if you have an Apple Silicon Mac.

For desktop Reddit, RES plugin is pretty much required. The native site is too noisy.

r/NeutralNews and r/NeutralPolitics were both bad for that. They had two auto-posts and, since I am slow, I clicked on them every time to the comments just to see the boilerplate auto-posts.

Theae comments are triggering me so hard. Lol

Bots are spam. Yes, even the "useful" ones.

I found a few ones useful but I can see your point. The cool part about Lemmy is that you can filter out bots