Fortunately, this is easily avoided by not using Chrome.
Common Firefox W
It would be best to make the switch today. That has the dual benefit of a) Showing Google that they will lose users, and maybe they will change their mind (again), and b) Show every website that they do need to put actual effort into supporting and testing against Firefox.
Best? Better than not using chrome in the first place?
It's been easily avoided for years now despite alarmists saying ad block would stop working as far back as 2020. I don't even have an ad blocker installed on Vivaldi and the built in blocking has worked just fine, even the other day when people started having issues with YouTube V just kept doing its job.
I'll believe it when I see it, and the day it happens I'll switch to FF. Until then I'm not going to reduce the user experience with this armchair virtue signalling that you all pretend is making a difference.
So... You're already not using Chrome...
Vivaldi is based off of Chromium though
Chromium isn't Chrome... And they work to keep the worst of what googie tries to force into the core chromium project from Chrome out of their implementation. One of the benefits of chromium itself being open source.
That depends heavily on who you ask, around here.
Good. Firefox is the answer.
For me, the future is Firefox and Linux.
Yeah but putting all our hopes into Firefox is quite dangerous. All Google needs to do to fuck us over is to stop funding Firefox.
Recently made the switch from Edge to Firefox to fully ditch Chromium. The more I read, the more I realize it was a great decision.
why were you using microsoft edge?
I liked it. Found it better than Chrome for my needs to finally get away from Google. I hadn’t realized I went from Chrome to Chromium. Within a year, I am now switched to Firefox. After theming it and stuff, I’m now liking it way more than everything else. It does everything I need and looks beautiful.
I also enjoy Firefox Focus on iOS which is basically incognito on steroids. Any time I click a link, it defaults to FFF.
It's better than chrome. Smaller memory footprint and a bit faster. Source: I'm web dev.
Stop. Using. Chrome. FFS.
No do it for your own sake. Or simply your sanity.
I'm a web dev and can instantly tell the difference. It's very noticeable when rendering maps on browser (what I do).
Average Pete browsing news sites won't tell the difference though, I agree with that.
In other words, these older extentions work just fine, no one wants the new limited features, and google is force disabling older extentions despite any outcries from its users because it can.
🎶No they won't because I don't use chrome 🎶
The popular uBlock Origin extension, for example, would be limited under Manifest V3. The developer created uBlock Origin Lite, a reduced version that is compatible with Manifest V3.
uBO Lite have a lot of limitations:
Filter lists update only when the extension updates (no fetching up to date lists from servers)
Sounds like manifest 3 would also break extensions like Stylish, Greasemonkey and Dark Reader, basically anything that injects or interacts with the html, css or JavaScript of a page in any way.
Basically, most actually useful extensions
Hilarious. Please people, just stop using Chrome seriously. There's no reason to do it.
Well, googie has certainly given me ample reason to never use Chrome again... Not that I ever planned to anyway, but still...
Running winget install firefox should fix that problem for windows users
EDIT: Fuck off autocorrect
"winget"
My what extensions? Isn't that the keylogger and network compute software with perfunctory ad delivery features?
I made the switch to waterfox (Firefox fork) that strips out much of the problematic mozilla stuff.
I started to switch because of the tab containers, as I work across a dozen or so accounts in our MSP business.
Now I realised how good Firefox can be if you get rid of the bloat.
Firefox is great regardless of "the bloat"
I would say it's good, but could be great with small adjustments in the way it is packaged.
I've never once used Firefox and thought "man, is there bloat here". Whatwas bugging you?
I was mainly referring to how sluggish it was. For my web apps, it was always slower and the UI would bog down. Maybe not the correct definition of you refer to unnecessary features.
I am more referring to how lean or streamline the software is. Both in front end design and backend.
A lot of browser performance has to do with how you use it, so my experience is not universal.
Still, even full fat Firefox is skinny compared to the morbidly obese Chrome and edge browsers.
So weird to me how when Chrome first came out, it was the opposite: Firefox was getting sluggish and poorly optimized with too much going on, and Chrome was sleek and fast and seemed to just have what was needed to work.
These things go in cycles. But I think the writing is on the wall. Google will never make the investment to unbloat Chrome.
They have no incentive to, at least not as long as they're the dominant web browser
There isn't much, Waterfox removes Pocket and disables most of the telemetry, tweaks some of the settings to be more privacy and performance minded, swaps google from default search engine and iirc it has more aggressive compiler optimization settings in exchange for having slightly more modern hardware requirements.
And the default theme is more compact and less chrome-esque.
It originally was just about providing 64-bit builds of Firefox back when Mozilla didn't yet, today it's mostly "Firefox, but slightly better."
Around the time Chrome first hit the scene, Firefox was getting pretty bloated and inefficient... They've come a long way since then but they still do a bunch of unnecessary stuff that should probably be off by default but isn't
Like what should be off by default
How will vivaldi and ungoogled-chromium be affected by these changes
I think they were joking about the fact that they don't have chrome, thus no extensions
You're missing a word and a question mark in your sentence.
Yes, "your". Your is the possessive form of the pronoun you and indicates ownership.
"stop"?
firefox did the same thing a while back.
all plugins stopped working, some where updated and some lost forever. dont trust moz.
What, you own some Alphabet stock or something? This is absolutely false and borders on intentional disinformation.
Firefox has had minor bloat/compatibility issues over the years, like old versions of all browsers... But nothing on this scale!
I mean, they absolutely did change their extension system, removing a lot of what the extensions had access to. Not to this level, no, but they did do that and a lot of what could be done with Firefox is no longer possible, so I'm not sure how that's disinformation.
An unfounded leap from that point to "don't trust moz", yes, but the extension change did happen.
too late...you had a different opinion in the echo chamber.
anyways, ofcourse moz fucked this up. just like they did when killing weave and lying to the users that users could still host everything on their own servers. never worked. utter bs. so let's keep Google search as the default search engine to get some money.
I have no idea what you're insinuating about me, and frankly I don't care.
Fortunately, this is easily avoided by not using Chrome.
Common Firefox W
It would be best to make the switch today. That has the dual benefit of a) Showing Google that they will lose users, and maybe they will change their mind (again), and b) Show every website that they do need to put actual effort into supporting and testing against Firefox.
Best? Better than not using chrome in the first place?
It's been easily avoided for years now despite alarmists saying ad block would stop working as far back as 2020. I don't even have an ad blocker installed on Vivaldi and the built in blocking has worked just fine, even the other day when people started having issues with YouTube V just kept doing its job.
I'll believe it when I see it, and the day it happens I'll switch to FF. Until then I'm not going to reduce the user experience with this armchair virtue signalling that you all pretend is making a difference.
So... You're already not using Chrome...
Vivaldi is based off of Chromium though
Chromium isn't Chrome... And they work to keep the worst of what googie tries to force into the core chromium project from Chrome out of their implementation. One of the benefits of chromium itself being open source.
That depends heavily on who you ask, around here.
Good. Firefox is the answer.
For me, the future is Firefox and Linux.
Yeah but putting all our hopes into Firefox is quite dangerous. All Google needs to do to fuck us over is to stop funding Firefox.
Recently made the switch from Edge to Firefox to fully ditch Chromium. The more I read, the more I realize it was a great decision.
why were you using microsoft edge?
I liked it. Found it better than Chrome for my needs to finally get away from Google. I hadn’t realized I went from Chrome to Chromium. Within a year, I am now switched to Firefox. After theming it and stuff, I’m now liking it way more than everything else. It does everything I need and looks beautiful.
I also enjoy Firefox Focus on iOS which is basically incognito on steroids. Any time I click a link, it defaults to FFF.
It's better than chrome. Smaller memory footprint and a bit faster. Source: I'm web dev.
Stop. Using. Chrome. FFS.
No do it for your own sake. Or simply your sanity.
But Firefox is way slower than chrome...
You dropped this: /s
Sure buddy.
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Firefox-Chrome-109-Benchmarks
I'm a web dev and can instantly tell the difference. It's very noticeable when rendering maps on browser (what I do).
Average Pete browsing news sites won't tell the difference though, I agree with that.
In other words, these older extentions work just fine, no one wants the new limited features, and google is force disabling older extentions despite any outcries from its users because it can.
🎶No they won't because I don't use chrome 🎶
uBO Lite have a lot of limitations:
Sounds like manifest 3 would also break extensions like Stylish, Greasemonkey and Dark Reader, basically anything that injects or interacts with the html, css or JavaScript of a page in any way.
Basically, most actually useful extensions
Hilarious. Please people, just stop using Chrome seriously. There's no reason to do it.
Well, googie has certainly given me ample reason to never use Chrome again... Not that I ever planned to anyway, but still...
Running
winget install firefoxshould fix that problem for windows usersEDIT: Fuck off autocorrect
"winget"
My what extensions? Isn't that the keylogger and network compute software with perfunctory ad delivery features?
I made the switch to waterfox (Firefox fork) that strips out much of the problematic mozilla stuff.
I started to switch because of the tab containers, as I work across a dozen or so accounts in our MSP business.
Now I realised how good Firefox can be if you get rid of the bloat.
Firefox is great regardless of "the bloat"
I would say it's good, but could be great with small adjustments in the way it is packaged.
I've never once used Firefox and thought "man, is there bloat here". Whatwas bugging you?
I was mainly referring to how sluggish it was. For my web apps, it was always slower and the UI would bog down. Maybe not the correct definition of you refer to unnecessary features.
I am more referring to how lean or streamline the software is. Both in front end design and backend.
A lot of browser performance has to do with how you use it, so my experience is not universal.
Still, even full fat Firefox is skinny compared to the morbidly obese Chrome and edge browsers.
So weird to me how when Chrome first came out, it was the opposite: Firefox was getting sluggish and poorly optimized with too much going on, and Chrome was sleek and fast and seemed to just have what was needed to work.
These things go in cycles. But I think the writing is on the wall. Google will never make the investment to unbloat Chrome.
They have no incentive to, at least not as long as they're the dominant web browser
There isn't much, Waterfox removes Pocket and disables most of the telemetry, tweaks some of the settings to be more privacy and performance minded, swaps google from default search engine and iirc it has more aggressive compiler optimization settings in exchange for having slightly more modern hardware requirements. And the default theme is more compact and less chrome-esque.
It originally was just about providing 64-bit builds of Firefox back when Mozilla didn't yet, today it's mostly "Firefox, but slightly better."
Around the time Chrome first hit the scene, Firefox was getting pretty bloated and inefficient... They've come a long way since then but they still do a bunch of unnecessary stuff that should probably be off by default but isn't
Like what should be off by default
How will vivaldi and ungoogled-chromium be affected by these changes
The answer is we don't know. https://vivaldi.com/blog/manifest-v3-webrequest-and-ad-blockers/
"Your"?
Is the correct word to use here grammatically.
I think they were joking about the fact that they don't have chrome, thus no extensions
You're missing a word and a question mark in your sentence.
Yes, "your". Your is the possessive form of the pronoun you and indicates ownership.
"stop"?
firefox did the same thing a while back. all plugins stopped working, some where updated and some lost forever. dont trust moz.
What, you own some Alphabet stock or something? This is absolutely false and borders on intentional disinformation.
Firefox has had minor bloat/compatibility issues over the years, like old versions of all browsers... But nothing on this scale!
I mean, they absolutely did change their extension system, removing a lot of what the extensions had access to. Not to this level, no, but they did do that and a lot of what could be done with Firefox is no longer possible, so I'm not sure how that's disinformation.
An unfounded leap from that point to "don't trust moz", yes, but the extension change did happen.
too late...you had a different opinion in the echo chamber. anyways, ofcourse moz fucked this up. just like they did when killing weave and lying to the users that users could still host everything on their own servers. never worked. utter bs. so let's keep Google search as the default search engine to get some money.
I have no idea what you're insinuating about me, and frankly I don't care.
Have a good one.