team wokeness 2 rule

Casey@lemmy.blahaj.zone to 196@lemmy.blahaj.zone – 506 points –
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Hi, elder millennial here that’s starting to lose it. Is the joke here that they did do all these things back in 2006 or whenever tf2 came out?

Pretty much yes. The only one I'm not 100% on (besides the scout skin, since that was after I stopped playing) is the engineer prosthetic. I feel like that weapon came out a while after TF2 was made (but I can't check that right now so don't take my word for it).

Jarate and heavy x medic were after release too afaik.

Heavy x medic was kinda obvious, but iirc valve didn't start dropping stronger hints until the past few years. Dunno if they've straight-up confirmed it yet or not; it's also been a while since I last played.

Jarate was part of the sniper update, which I thought came after release (because iirc there weren't any alternate items in the original release).

Yes I think jarate was introduced the same time they gave him a bow option

99% sure Jarate was in the first big alt weapon patch, because it's the last patch I enjoyed playing lol. Bow, Sandvich, Bonk, etc. came out at the same time.

Heavy x medic was kinda obvious

Outside of the game, maybe? I've played a ton of TF2 but never got involved in the outside memeing or story. In-game there's nothing obvious about any of them except Soldier sounds thick-as-pig-shit and Demo-man being black.

His penis has always been prosthetic in lore, its just never shown.

One of the Engineer's unlockable weapons is the Gunslinger which is a prosthetic hand. It also is (or was) commonly regarded as OP since it replaced the turret with a fast self-building mini-turret that was a pain to keep destroyed (Engie would toss out another one).

Am old, also out of the loop and would like someone to explain it to me in "grampa" terms.

I only remember TFC, and that was a long time ago

The game was in its own way progressive and ahead of its time

It still is. In TF2 the progressiveness doesn't come forced to appeal to some aduience with "look we put a black character in"

Demoman is a black scottish guy and fits perfectly eith all the misfit mercenaries.

Ok still is. Wasn’t saying it isn’t currently but all these decisions were made like 15+ years ago. Hence “ahead of its time.” The implication is many of these decisions still hold up very well to scrutiny.

I've never played tf2 (only played tf2), but based on the structure of the joke, I think so.

im so glad that all of these WOKE LIBERAL SOCIALIST things are out of the game as it was released back in the GOOD days before EVIL GAY PEOPLE were in my videogames,. thank you gabe newell for making gaming real 🙏

Is there a high-res image for the femboy scout? Asking for a friend.

If it was released today we'd have another rage from the "fucking pronouns" guy

I legitimately don't think they could get away with releasing TF2 today.

Why

Have you ever played TF2? The content is definitely something that modern journalism would use to stir folks up if it was released in these times.

It's purposely rude and often uses stereotypes, but the point is that it's supposed to be cartoonishly ridiculous in its character depictions.

Yes. I have played it since the orange box and still do occasionally. This is “you couldn’t make blazing saddles today” nonsense. The satire is and has been apparent for a long time in large part because Valve generally doesn’t punch down.

I love the arguement that you couldn't make blazing saddles today because if you handed the script to a producer, they'd take one look and go "we can't make this! This is just blazing saddles, and it came out years ago"

I don't think it's the fact that people are too easily offended, if that's what you mean. It's good satire, to be sure. I just personally think that the amount of people who play a lot of video games are marketed towards these days may not be the crowd known for their.. critical thinking.

Plus, it's things like sensational journalism that I feel would be the ones to put out their opinion to outrage the masses. Again: I don't think that people are "too easily offended" or whatever these days. But many are easily swayed by mass media opinions. That's just my thought.

At the very least people would be upset about the demoman's VA being white, and would probably try to claim that the demoman being an alcoholic has everything to do with racism and not the fact that he's supposed to be a Scottish stereotype. Tbh, other than that I'm not really sure what people would get upset about except maybe that there aren't any (known) playable female characters (iirc the pyro's gender is supposed to be androgenous and a mystery) and 8 out of 9 of the characters are white.

I fail to see the issue here

I went back to tf2 after cs2 came out and I am so sad to see it totally infested by botters and aimhacks

It was valves crown jewel for a while and now it's just rotting