Trump ordered to pay New York Times nearly $400k in legal fees for 'frivolous' lawsuit

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Trump ordered to pay New York Times nearly $400k in legal fees for 'frivolous' lawsuit
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He should be ordered to pay something back to the American public for his frivolous term in office.

There's a motion being proposed to make Trump give up the $8+ *7.8 million in foreign donations he illegally accepted while in office.

I'd fully support this proposition. And if the companies can't cough up, then nationalize them, fill those hotels with the homeless. Would do more good for the country than anything that man has done in his entire life.

He stopped leasing the hotel when he left DC. I think a trailer park would look good on his useless golf courses though.

With penalties?

I wish but there should be a correction. It's 7.8 million.

I would not insist on financial penalties, I'd be fine with Trump behind bars for as long as normal people would end there for crimes on similar level.

Financial penalties = only a crime for the poor

Financial penalties apportioned as a direct percentage of net wealth on the other hand would be pretty cool.

You are aware that faking down ones worth and income is the main reason that millionaires pay less taxes than normal working people?

Is there a breakdown on who donated to him? Maybe I can find some Hungarian GONGO there, to use it as an argument against the sovereignty law.

I think we are all due some money from all the pain and suffering he's inflicted on this nation.

The New York, Attorney General is trying to get $370 million for the people of New York

Ought to, but I don't imagine it would be easy to get politicians on board with that.

Soooooo what happens when he never pays it?

This will be part of where the seized assets go as they are all liquidated. Basically the NYT will make a claim in court after the sentence on the civil fraud case is decided. At this point, every person Trump ever owed money to will be going after their piece.

Yeah, he's never going to willingly pay that bill. A court will have to order the money taken from him.

I like the idea of him defying the order and the Times getting one of those court orders that let them seize various of his possessions until they reach the amount owed. Could you imagine the fit he would throw if they walked in and had a plumber start removing his gold toilet? I also wonder what things they might find as they seize his stuff - what if there's another box of national secrets next to the gold toilet?

At this point, any documents he still has have been sold to the highest bidder or destroyed. They’re far more likely to find a pile of soiled adult diapers next to his gold-plated throne.

I think it'll be pretty easy for them, actually. Once the sentence in the civil fraud cause is decided, they should be able to make a claim.

Nobody knows more about losing frivolous lawsuits than Donald Trump believe me.

Big strong men come up to him, with tears in their eyes, saying "how do you do it, sir? How do you lose so many lawsuits?!!!"

If he actually has to pay this, he'll be just redistributing his teabagger fanboi money to the NYT...

On the plus side, it will be hilarious for said teabagger fanbois to know that they indirectly funded NYT.

I mean, not the NYT directly, but whichever law firm represents them. Probably a lib one though which would still get their blood boiling.

Is there a website that tracks what he's been mandated to pay by courts and what he's actually paid?

I'd like to see some follow up. Does he ever pay any of these fines?

He wipes his ass with $400k though. So stupid.

He doesn't though. He talks a big game about how rich he is, but it's all talk - he is leveraged up to his eyeballs, his businesses hemorrhage money, and sooner or later someone is going to start calling in those debts and the whole thing will unravel - this is what the NYC fraud case is about; he lied about his finances to get loans that he wouldn't have been able to get if people had known how little money he actually has

Sure, but even now people are still giving him money. He's not exactly struggling.

Idiots in mobile homes giving him money is not the same thing as major bank lending him money.

I didn't realise Trump was so poor that he was living out of a box.

his home isn’t money. you… realize that, right? one can live in a building one owns while having zero actual cash… like… is that a concept too difficult for you to grasp, or what?

You do realise "living out of a box" is a general term for being destitute? I'm not just talking about his homes (plural), his standard of living is still well and above everyone else.

Sure, he's not as wealthy as he made out, we all know this. But he lives better than most Americans.

You do realise “living out of a box” is a general term for being destitute?

I’ll take it by your spelling of the word really that you’re not from the US. I am, and that’s not an expression used much here. perhaps you should avoid using obscure metaphors when posting to website used mostly by Americans.

and he lived better than most because he’s in debt up to his eyeballs and living off credit. don’t you get this?

A negative vote score is no excuse for you being patronising towards me. I haven't been rude here, you have, multiple times.

I made a statement of fact: Trump is not struggling financially. He's not getting the huge loans he conned his way into before, but he's still getting money and living a lavish life that most people could only dream of. A $400k fee isn't going to change that - if he even pays it, I expect he'll try and weasel out until he's taken to court again for non-payment.

Rich people being in debt isn't the same as you or I being in debt. Living off the credit is what they all do.

A negative vote score is no excuse for you being patronising towards me.

no, but thinking this is reddit and “karma” matters here is

I made a statement of fact: ...but he’s still getting money and living a lavish life that most people could only dream of. A $400k fee isn’t going to change that

of course it will. he has very little cash as most of what he does is live of credit and freebees and his ability to keep borrowing is coming to an end. the little he gets in donations goes straight to his legal bills, living him little-to-nothing in the ways of liquid assets. he has to pay, and the best he can do is delay payment with appeals which cost him more money, which he can barely afford in credit from legal firms or from his campaign or PAC, which have to now prioritize the cases the fund.

so, no, just because you don’t know how any of this works doesn’t mean it’s a “fact”, and if you don’t like being told you’re wrong repeatedly, stop saying silly things like your previous comments.

no, but thinking this is reddit and “karma” matters here is

Where did I say that the score matters to me?

You keep attacking me personally. That's pathetic, it's a waste of time speaking to you.

Where did I say that the score matters to me?

you’re the one who brought it up. it clearly matters to you

it’s a waste of time speaking to you.

then why won’t you go away?

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It's another loss, and it hurts him. Take the small win. And this isn't the only thing he needs to worry about.

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