That's to be expected. What remains to be seen is how many of them will stick around after the initial surge.
Im more curious how many are bots made to look like its booming with traffic
idk. After they dropped invite codes, they started requiring phone numbers for sign up.
Because those aren't incredibly easy to spoof or anything?
Exactly, they aren't.
I registered with a VoIP number that a free app gave me. I doubt they're blocking all the freely available "temp sms" numbers out there.
You can spoof caller ID but you can't spoof a number to receive texts to it. Can you imagine?
Oh actually it's worse than that. There are online companies that offer online SMS services that can receive messages from real phone numbers by essentially telling your carrier you want text messages forwarded to them. Obviously they usually make you prove that you own the number before requesting forwarding, but there's ways around that. I've known several people who've had their online accounts broken in to because someone hijacked their phone number's SMS in order to perform password resets or bypass 2FA.
Losers are also scamming Craigslist posters. “Oh good I’ll be available at that time! BTW, I’ve been dealing with a lot of bots on here. Can you send me the code you’re receiving right now?”
(then you get a code from WhatsApp or something)
Bro what??
Telco needs to be replaced
I'm one of those people, definitely not a bot. A friend with several invitations to the beta available offered me one a few days ago and then it was opened so I didn't need it
I hope you dont think I was saying it was ONLY bots. Ofc there are humans on there.
oh nice. If this trend continues, they will be by 4 million tommorrow and 20 million next week and by summer every human on earth will have an account.
You’re now a moderator of c/capitalism & c/investing
Yeah, no thanks. I'm good with Lemmy and Mastodon.
Same - I was mildly curious to be honest, but not nearly enough to give them my phone number.
I had never even heard of bluesky before and also not really interested. Looks like another Twitter replacement, but I never really got into twitter to start with.
I saw the title and I was like "1987 blue sky studios is open to the public? The hell does that mean?"
Bluesky is supposed to be Twitter 2.0 - Jack Dorsey, who co-founded Twitter, is on the board for Bluesky and was supposedly very involved in building the platform. So in theory it could be a lot of things that Twitter wished it could, or it could just be bad like most other socials.
Either way if you have an interest in the tech world it's probably worth keeping an eye on.
Is it weird that I'm enamored by technological improvements but mostly disgusted by the "tech world" ?
Nah I don't think so.
Goodbye Bluesky
whoever made that graph needs to learn how to properly space their horizontal axis labels
How quickly will it become a serious contender against Twitter?
I'll stick with lemmy, but I'd love to bathe in some schadenfreude at musks expense.
Someone is already sitting on the rocketlab name. I'm only on X for space launch tweets, and was hoping some of them were posting on both X and Bsky
Engagement :
"Hello world!"
"Hi"
"Welcome"
"Hi"
That's the beauty of it already being a thriving forum before opening up to the public, there's a lot of ongoing content beyond people logging on and saying hi for the first time.
While some may see this as good for Bluesky, I bet this is the floodgates opening to bots and algorithmically boosted harmful content. Good luck everyone on there!
All the algorithms on bluesky are optional, there's both official feeds and a lot of 3rd party feeds (and they don't run on view counts!), so there's no trivial way to game the algorithms to reach the userbase
Fair, though this is also where the double-edge sword of discoverability steps in too. Many people complain about the lack of it on decentralized systems, but centralized systems have a nice catalog of users for bots to message with little effort.
I'll admit that lack of discoverability isn't a perfect solution since there are other ways for spammers to discover users. E-mail is a great example of a large, long running, decentralized system that has increasingly suffered from spam since its inception due to mass data collection of addresses. However if you're really careful about who you share your address with, it's possible to still avoid most of it. I give out unique e-mail address to companies and spam tends to only come in on a few, often because they were breached or are otherwise "leaky" about their user's data. Dropbox is by far the worst offender.
Threads default settings are like an open fire hose of rage bait and negativity spraying directly into your face. It's pretty wild without some manual feed pruning.
I've been using Mastodon and it's a pleasant change of pace. I've heard of some spam happening there but I think responsive admins and the lack of algorithmic feeds really reduces their reach.
Mastodon’s the best social media I’ve used. I’ve curated such a quality feed.
That's what I was thinking... Here come the bots
You need to register with a phone number, and they send a verification SMS to the number which you must complete to finish registration
I think that's difficult for bulk bots
Nah it just means you need to contract with a temp sms number provider. It'll be difficult for your average kid in a garage to run bulk bots but not for state, corporate, and other well funded actors.
I've seen pictures of rooms with walls full of Android cell phones on shelves all hooked up by USB for power and remote control. They can load apps, register accounts, and interact with content inside the app while appearing as legitimate mobile users. That's why moves like Reddit restricting API access only hurt legitimate users and lazy bot farms, cause the hardcore bot farms have been using the official app on real phones all along.
What is it?
What is bluesky? Basically a twitter clone that was spun off as it's own thing by the twitter team that was working on federation when Musk took over. It's pretty good if you liked the pre-Musk twitter vibe or a slightly smaller scale and leftier version of it.
Ah yes another commercial social media platform taking the first steps in the enshitification process. We've seen this all before in the early days of other platforms before the decay sets in.
They have more posts than lemmy has active users. Nice
I don't understand the categories' purpose here. Can't someone be all three? Or are they presented as a hierarchy, like "likers" have liked but not followed or posted, "followers" have followed someone but not posted, while "posters" have posted?
I do not know the answer, source of the info is here if you or anyone want to look more into it: https://bsky.jazco.dev/stats
It could still grow even more as they haven't opened registration to all countries yet.
Is that so? I haven't heard anything about registrations only be open in certain countries.
The signup form requires sms verification, but they can't send the sms to all countries yet.
Ah bummer, that is annoying.
people are wondering if bluesky will end up like twitter. I'm not for one reason, twitter didn't start going to shit until elon took over, fired the content mod team, and let the neo nazis, porn bots, and cryptobros run rampant. twitter before elon was fairly functional and useful.
when they eventually scale up I can see bluesky being what pre elon twitter was, especially with content moderation.
That's to be expected. What remains to be seen is how many of them will stick around after the initial surge.
Im more curious how many are bots made to look like its booming with traffic
idk. After they dropped invite codes, they started requiring phone numbers for sign up.
Because those aren't incredibly easy to spoof or anything?
Exactly, they aren't.
I registered with a VoIP number that a free app gave me. I doubt they're blocking all the freely available "temp sms" numbers out there.
You can spoof caller ID but you can't spoof a number to receive texts to it. Can you imagine?
Oh actually it's worse than that. There are online companies that offer online SMS services that can receive messages from real phone numbers by essentially telling your carrier you want text messages forwarded to them. Obviously they usually make you prove that you own the number before requesting forwarding, but there's ways around that. I've known several people who've had their online accounts broken in to because someone hijacked their phone number's SMS in order to perform password resets or bypass 2FA.
Losers are also scamming Craigslist posters. “Oh good I’ll be available at that time! BTW, I’ve been dealing with a lot of bots on here. Can you send me the code you’re receiving right now?”
(then you get a code from WhatsApp or something)
Bro what??
Telco needs to be replaced
I'm one of those people, definitely not a bot. A friend with several invitations to the beta available offered me one a few days ago and then it was opened so I didn't need it
I hope you dont think I was saying it was ONLY bots. Ofc there are humans on there.
Im jc how many are bots.
oh nice. If this trend continues, they will be by 4 million tommorrow and 20 million next week and by summer every human on earth will have an account.
You’re now a moderator of c/capitalism & c/investing
relevant xkcd
Ahaha
Cool I've discovered my newest fetish.
And then onward to the extraterrestrial market!
Disco Stu would be proud.
Yeah, no thanks. I'm good with Lemmy and Mastodon.
Same - I was mildly curious to be honest, but not nearly enough to give them my phone number.
I had never even heard of bluesky before and also not really interested. Looks like another Twitter replacement, but I never really got into twitter to start with.
I saw the title and I was like "1987 blue sky studios is open to the public? The hell does that mean?"
Bluesky is supposed to be Twitter 2.0 - Jack Dorsey, who co-founded Twitter, is on the board for Bluesky and was supposedly very involved in building the platform. So in theory it could be a lot of things that Twitter wished it could, or it could just be bad like most other socials.
Either way if you have an interest in the tech world it's probably worth keeping an eye on.
Is it weird that I'm enamored by technological improvements but mostly disgusted by the "tech world" ?
Nah I don't think so.
Goodbye Bluesky
whoever made that graph needs to learn how to properly space their horizontal axis labels
How quickly will it become a serious contender against Twitter?
I'll stick with lemmy, but I'd love to bathe in some schadenfreude at musks expense.
Someone is already sitting on the rocketlab name. I'm only on X for space launch tweets, and was hoping some of them were posting on both X and Bsky
Engagement :
"Hello world!"
"Hi"
"Welcome"
"Hi"
That's the beauty of it already being a thriving forum before opening up to the public, there's a lot of ongoing content beyond people logging on and saying hi for the first time.
While some may see this as good for Bluesky, I bet this is the floodgates opening to bots and algorithmically boosted harmful content. Good luck everyone on there!
All the algorithms on bluesky are optional, there's both official feeds and a lot of 3rd party feeds (and they don't run on view counts!), so there's no trivial way to game the algorithms to reach the userbase
Fair, though this is also where the double-edge sword of discoverability steps in too. Many people complain about the lack of it on decentralized systems, but centralized systems have a nice catalog of users for bots to message with little effort.
I'll admit that lack of discoverability isn't a perfect solution since there are other ways for spammers to discover users. E-mail is a great example of a large, long running, decentralized system that has increasingly suffered from spam since its inception due to mass data collection of addresses. However if you're really careful about who you share your address with, it's possible to still avoid most of it. I give out unique e-mail address to companies and spam tends to only come in on a few, often because they were breached or are otherwise "leaky" about their user's data. Dropbox is by far the worst offender.
Threads default settings are like an open fire hose of rage bait and negativity spraying directly into your face. It's pretty wild without some manual feed pruning.
I've been using Mastodon and it's a pleasant change of pace. I've heard of some spam happening there but I think responsive admins and the lack of algorithmic feeds really reduces their reach.
Mastodon’s the best social media I’ve used. I’ve curated such a quality feed.
That's what I was thinking... Here come the bots
You need to register with a phone number, and they send a verification SMS to the number which you must complete to finish registration
I think that's difficult for bulk bots
Nah it just means you need to contract with a temp sms number provider. It'll be difficult for your average kid in a garage to run bulk bots but not for state, corporate, and other well funded actors.
I've seen pictures of rooms with walls full of Android cell phones on shelves all hooked up by USB for power and remote control. They can load apps, register accounts, and interact with content inside the app while appearing as legitimate mobile users. That's why moves like Reddit restricting API access only hurt legitimate users and lazy bot farms, cause the hardcore bot farms have been using the official app on real phones all along.
What is it?
What is bluesky? Basically a twitter clone that was spun off as it's own thing by the twitter team that was working on federation when Musk took over. It's pretty good if you liked the pre-Musk twitter vibe or a slightly smaller scale and leftier version of it.
https://bsky.app/
The name “Blue sky” very creative and smart
Ah yes another commercial social media platform taking the first steps in the enshitification process. We've seen this all before in the early days of other platforms before the decay sets in.
They have more posts than lemmy has active users. Nice
I don't understand the categories' purpose here. Can't someone be all three? Or are they presented as a hierarchy, like "likers" have liked but not followed or posted, "followers" have followed someone but not posted, while "posters" have posted?
I do not know the answer, source of the info is here if you or anyone want to look more into it: https://bsky.jazco.dev/stats
It could still grow even more as they haven't opened registration to all countries yet.
Is that so? I haven't heard anything about registrations only be open in certain countries.
The signup form requires sms verification, but they can't send the sms to all countries yet.
Ah bummer, that is annoying.
people are wondering if bluesky will end up like twitter. I'm not for one reason, twitter didn't start going to shit until elon took over, fired the content mod team, and let the neo nazis, porn bots, and cryptobros run rampant. twitter before elon was fairly functional and useful.
when they eventually scale up I can see bluesky being what pre elon twitter was, especially with content moderation.
Blues Guy? You mean like B.B. King?