E. Jean Carroll might sue Donald Trump a third time
An attorney representing E. Jean Carroll has indicated the journalist could sue Donald Trump for a third time, as the former president continues to speak about her client publicly.
Speaking on MSNBC's Inside With Jen Psaki on Monday night, Shawn Crowley, an attorney for Carroll, responded to the frontrunner for the GOP presidential nomination telling supporters at a Michigan rally on Saturday that he had not done anything wrong to Carroll, whom he claimed he did not know, and that lawsuits against him were "unfair."
In January, a New York City jury ordered that the former president must pay $83.3 million in damages to the former Elle columnist, for statements made in 2019. He said she was lying about allegations that he sexually assaulted her inside a Manhattan department store dressing room in the 1990s. That amount includes $7.3 million in compensatory damages, $11 million for reputational repair, and $65 million in punitive damages. He has repeatedly denied all wrongdoing and has said he will appeal the verdict.
Trump was previously ordered to pay Carroll $5 million in damages in May in another civil defamation trial stemming from a denial he made about her claims in 2022. He is appealing that decision and has set aside $5.55 million with the Manhattan Court as part of that process. Newsweek contacted a representative for Trump by email to comment on this story.
Carroll found an IRL infinite money glitch
Hard to get blood from a turnip.
Not really? Trump uses banks, and banks will freeze assets to a court order and turn them over.
That only applies to people who aren't rich. Trump is going to use the Alex Jones playbook of bankruptcy, shell companies, and "but I can't survive on anything less than 80k a month"
No? Alex Jones's assets were not public, so they were easier to hide. Trump has many public assets, and the Trump Org is a very public (although privately held) company.
There's already a judge in control of the Trump Org, so they can't move any money without approval. The State of NY is literally holding him by the balls, whether he pays up or not.
Banks do not help people whose assets are already frozen. It would be obvious and they would get a massive fine, and the recipient bank would send the money back (if they're in the US). Plus whichever bank employee made the transfer would be fired.
He has already posted the bond for the first order. He has to post the second to appeal. Which he will. He’s not getting out of this. Each bond is above the initial is in the article.
In this case I don't think so. Trump has low liquidity but many assets. Even if he dies she can get paid from his estate.
Or blood from a cheeto.
Naw, he's working on hooking up an IV drip from the RNC doners as we speak.
He doesn't have any money to pay her
Every appeal ends up putting actual money in escrow. He doesn't have enough money to actually appeal this last decision + the new York fraud decision.
Doesn't matter. Still sue.
That's amazing. Do it.
I want her to drag him to court over and over. It will be, as Trump likes to say, "a beautiful thing, folks. A beautiful thing."
So much winning!
People are saying, it's a beautiful thing.
While I applaud her for her bravery, I also worry because of what his lunatic supporters have been known to do to their perceived "enemy."
Remember, they think he's literally the second coming of Christ.
She literally doesnt care. The juice is worth the squeeze.
what a wonderful saying. personally i like "[it's just] sauce for the goose" (as a follow-up to/implying the phrase "his goose is cooked"), but what you said is seems to fit better here.
They thought the same about Hitler and an entire generation of Germans and Austrians lived the remainder of their lives in silent shame when it all fell apart.
One big difference I think.
Nazi Germany lost in outright combat against an enemy they had always said they could beat. They were decimated and many of their sycophants were killed in battle.
Unless Trump and his followers start an actual armed rebellion and get put down, I don't see how they end up ashamed.
Beating Trump in court, while it needs to be done, allows all of his followers to keep saying, "See? We told you the deep state was out to get him."
Those people are out there. It's one of the main reasons I left Florida. A truck load of guys showed up outside my polling place in 2020 with AR's and they were asking everyone in line who they planned on voting for/if they were voting for Trump. The cops were called and they told the people who called that "as long as they weren't brandishing their weapons or threatening anyone" that nothing could be done. This was in the parking lot of a public library during voting; the cops chose to not do anything.
"Stand back and stand by" is all these people think about. They aren't making a move until Trump tells them to, but there's a non-zero chance that they start getting violent, similar to "the troubles" in Ireland in the 90's.
And our legal system fails us every single day Trump is a free man getting to flap his gums. We all know what we watched happen. We heard what he said, we saw what the aftermath was... If it was you or I, we'd be in solitary confinement yesterday.
There's a long damn time until November and I'm fearful, but there's not much I can do to change anything.
I work with a dipshit that keeps giving everyone shit for spending their money on anything besides ammo and guns. BECAUSE OF THE UPCOMING WAR!!!!! This guy is a fucking lunatic and dead serious. He would have been at Jan 6th but the boss didn't approve his vacation time. Keeping my mouth shut and not provoking this prick is close to the hardest thing I've ever done. Fuck these clowns.
If maga-country is paying for it, might as well get that money again and again.
Hey, most of us are also trying to grift MAGA folks.
We can't let Trump have it all.
I saw an instagram profile that “specializes” in Trump related AI art, and is run by a German teenager. It looked like there were paid features Trump fans could sign up for, and a lot of them were eating it up in the comments.
The account owner has just a couple pics of himself posted in a suit, and one brief explanation + a few short comments on why he loves Trump, and how he came to being a huge Trump fan. Which are all very vague/surface level reasons and come across about as genuine as the more lazy sponsored videos on YouTube.
I’m convinced this is what he’s doing lol. Also a little impressed tbh
So he's actually on her side grifting his own people for her gain.
It was 5D chess all along.
Going for the hat trick? I like your style.
It's like she found a faulty slot machine that won't stop putting out.
Its like a gift that keeps on giving!
Except he never pays
Don't forget to bring an extra set of forms to file on the way out, when he does it again in this next trial!
As long as there’s evidence and damages cover the attorney fees she can keep this going.
At what point is trump just doing what he wants and not paying? Can he go to debtors prison or something?
New York will seize & start auctioning off his properties. He can't even appeal without putting the damages fine in escrow.
I read yesterday that Trump only has ~$550M in liquid assets & $50M of that he can't touch without it automatically recalling a loan that he currently cannot pay.
I'd like to point out the last part is no one's problem but Trump's & whatever bank gave him that loan.
Not even Trump's problem, I'm afraid. As J. Paul Getty famously said-
That's true for $50 million as well.
thing is: he doesn't owe it to a bank-- he owes it via judgements to Carroll and to the People of the State of New York, and, on their behalf, the State of New York will start seizing Trump's assets and auctioning them off to cover the judgements.
Depends on how the loan is secured. If he put up some of his property as collateral then the bank can just seize it and it's not their problem then.
Yeah, but the property he put up saying is worth 50 million to secure the loan is probably only worth 3 million 🤣
Then they sue him for lying about the value of the collateral. One big oroboros of lawsuits until Trump has nothing.
Haha
Then on to the next one!!
Pretty dumb quote.
The bank has an army of lawyers who sure as shit gonna make it your problem.
It hasn't been a problem for Trump before. He's defaulted on many loans.
He can't pay lawyers without selling real estate.
... and I'm sure that was a significant problem for him each time.
I've been told by others that New York can start seizing his assets if he doesn't pay up. And PAC money is not infinite.
I was curious about the legal options here so did a little research. My first thought was can Trump use his go to move in this case and just declare Bankruptcy. IANAL but via the magic of google it seems like the answer is kind of. Civil judgements can be discharged via bankruptcy, but there's a few gotchas in there as well. To start with while the damages can be discharged, any fines or court fees can't. Furthermore if malice can be shown then damages can also be reclassified as non-dischargeable.
I don't understand. Your other comment says he defaults on loans all the time and it's the bank's problem rather than his. Now you're saying New York will seize assets if he doesn't pay ?
I'm saying that's what I have been told by others. We'll see if it's true.
I'm very confident that a court of law will take whatever action is necessary to enforce it's rulings.
Banks have a range of interests and they will weight the direct and indirect costs of seeking settlement for loans. That is to say that in some circumstances they may choose to sit on the debt for a time seeking to preserve a relationship or so.
A court's interest is much more confined. Their only interest is to apply the law and enforce their rulings.
Are you? When is Alex Jones going to be forced to pay that $1.5 billion? Because that case was two years ago.
That's not really analogous.
A court awarded settlement is not enforced by the court, penalties are.
That's not an issue when your debtor owns some of the most valuable real estate in the USA & can't pay lawyers without selling those assets to start with.
President Loser continuing his losing streak.
Bitch-Tits needs to shut. His. Mouth.
I'm cool with .73 cents out of each dollar he gets donated going to others, I'd like him to talk more so he goes bankrupt before the July estimate 👍
That works for me, too. If it MUST talk, drain it of resources and money until it withers up and blows away.
The Trifecta!
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
An attorney representing E. Jean Carroll has indicated the journalist could sue Donald Trump for a third time, as the former president continues to speak about her client publicly.
Speaking on MSNBC's Inside With Jen Psaki on Monday night, Shawn Crowley, an attorney for Carroll, responded to the frontrunner for the GOP presidential nomination telling supporters at a Michigan rally on Saturday that he had not done anything wrong to Carroll, whom he claimed he did not know, and that lawsuits against him were "unfair."
In January, a New York City jury ordered that the former president must pay $83.3 million in damages to the former Elle columnist, for statements made in 2019.
Trump was previously ordered to pay Carroll $5 million in damages in May in another civil defamation trial stemming from a denial he made about her claims in 2022.
"We had really hoped that, as the jury found, that $83 million dollars would maybe be enough to convince him to keep E. Jean Carroll's name out of his mouth, apparently he showed us this weekend that he really cannot control himself and that maybe it wasn't but we will see what happens as this continues to play out."
However, attorney Bradley Moss wrote that Trump was "close, but he didn't cross the line" in his remarks.
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