/r/Piracy is just a bunch of memes, and this community actively talks about piracy, it's ethical philosophy and taking control over your media. There are people who pirate everything regardless of circumstances, but for the most part, I'd argue its people who have been burnt by companies whom they trusted.
/r/piracy is just a bunch of memes
Because otherwise it would get instantly banned. You don't host piracy communities on social media, it's well known
I disagree that it actually talks about the "ethical philosophy." Basically either you join the echo chamber saying that there are no ethical problems with piracy, or you're downvoted to oblivion. The responses are along the lines of "idc, I want free stuff." That makes the discussion redundant and uninteresting.
Hey there's long fledged out discussions on the nuances of... how very ethical piracy is
Yep. I got wrecked trying to discuss the nuanced differences between piracy and theft.
Decided then and there to just block all discussions/communities on the topic. If they canโt leave the wind-tunnel, they can keep it to themselves.
Some people have to jump through a lot of moral hoops to justify piracy instead of accepting there could be any possible bad points about it
Exactly.
because the flipside is companies wanting to nickel and dime you to oblivion for a subpar piece of media, or even hardware these days.
We're talking about whether the community has a nuanced discussion about the ethics of piracy or not. What you said just now is another attempt at a false dichotomy, so if you're trying to represent the community you're kind of proving my point.
im presenting you with a simple, common but strong argument for it.
you can choose to engage with it with nuance or, apparently, attack me.
you won't agree with every set of ideals out there, that doesn't mean it isnt tought out.
Your argument is not relevant to anything I said. So I don't want to engage with it because it derails the discussion here, which is not about the ethics of piracy but about the community's openness to discussing it.
yes it is. you just dont want to have that discussion.
the community will rightfully shun people parroting the copyrights holders arguments and bad faith arguing, because thats not the place to be if you hate piracy.
They can do whatever they want, it's their community. Just don't tell me there's a nuanced discussion going on there.
well dont tell me there isnt while refusing to engage.
I did engage multiple times in that community, when it was on topic. I eventually learned that there was no point in doing so.
Idk if it's still there, but devs of lemmy mentioned wanting to make a place you could actually talk about piracy. I buy things when I can DRM free, and when I can't I'm really glad this community exists
There are people who pirate everything regardless of circumstances, but for the most part, I'd argue its people who have been burnt by companies whom they trusted.
Gotta be !imageai@sh.itjust.works. The weekly community challenges are really cool and I don't think you could find a better space to experiment with and learn about AI artwork. The userbase is knowledgeable/skilled on the topic and also has good vibes.
Personally I don't see that as a good thing. Reddit had a thriving community of active art sharing subrrddits, Lemmy only has a few barely active art coms and instead floods All with ai-generated images.
A) just block the community
B) Lemmy also has active !traditional_art@lemmy.world communities, it just has less activity in general. We can have an infinite amount of communities on this platform, for both topics. It's not a zero-sum game
Why do you think the existence of the AI image community is hurting the other art communities on Lemmy? I'm subscribed to and enjoy content from both.
It's not a zero sum game, but there are not an infinite number of eyeballs looking nor is there an infinite supply of content at any given time. If the majority of "art" floating to the top is generated, it will change how people view the platform.
Maybe the AI "art" community being the first to thrive will mean actual artists get a bad first impression and avoid Lemmy. Maybe people do block it and it becomes a problem only visible to those who don't already "get it" and just block.
There are many reasons why it could hurt the community. How do you fail to understand that?
I never said there aren't any reasons it could hurt the community. I simply asked what those reasons might be, and you have given me an answer to my question.
My counterpoint would be that it's also possible that the increased activity from the AI art community energizes and grows Lemmy as a whole, and some of those users are also interested in other art.
I think that your beef is with AI art as a concept, not with the Lemmy community in particular. I feel terrible for artists that are losing their livelihood due to AI, but if AI is going to affect my life going forward, I would like to understand how it works and how to deal with it. Observing that Lemmy community has helped to clarify the capabilities and limitations of AI for me personally, along with providing entertainment.
TLDR verifiable pros > hypothetical cons
Automation will steal our jobs!!
/s
I feel that. There's is a lot of ai art here and it's a little off putting. Reddit did have a lot more to share but it comes with the user numbers for sure.
Shameless plug, but I've been really trying to keep up with daily posts at https://lemmy.world/c/crtart if you are looking for a non ai art community.
(abstract) The overall dev community here. This place has a lot of the extremely capable bleeding edgers, the people capable of changing the world for the better with a couple weeks of thought.
where do they mostly lurk ? I want to piggyback on these worldchanging devs
.ml is the oldest Lemmy instance and home of the Lemmy devs. You mostly need to ask compelling questions and read between the lines to get a bigger picture view.
I also edge until i bleed
The Tom Swifty sub has been locked without explanation for a year on reddit. But !tomswifty@midwest.social is thriving!
TIL about Tom Swifty jokes. It's like a pun on steroids. Brilliant!
Was it locked permanently due to the Reddit API changes perhaps? Or was it before that?
I know some subs did lock indefinitely, but Reddit forcibly reopened some I think.
It was a couple months before that, actually. I wouldn't talk shit about a community that shut down in protest.
I'm gonna need someone to explain what that is a little more. I'm super confused.
It's a type of joke where the spoken line relates to the described manner of speaking, usually in a pun, eg.
"Salmon is just the best," Tom said superficially.
The adverb "superficially" sounds like "super fish", which describes Tom's attitude towards salmon.
!ich_iel@feddit.de
Technically, it has an equivalent in r/ich_iel. But that's a generic German meme sub, while the fediverse version is dominated by half a dozen users making memes about their private life. It has a weird-as-fuck soap opera love story between a cow and ramen noodles, hero worship of a bright yellow superhero fighting against parking offenders, and genuinely interesting insights into the German public train system.
I also made one for Aldi fans, surving past 40, and ethical consumerism. I would love for more fun discussions and recommendations posted on these. It's really hard to get people to post.
One post? Kinda seems like less of a community and more like you promoting the spaces you have created. Which is fine, but not really what the question was.
Well, I guess I was hoping to foster some community, but keep on gatekeeping, thats cool
Itโs great that you want to create more communities but making one and then only putting up one post isnโt going to get it doneโฆ
Love ya
I'm open to advice my friend. I'm not an experienced mod, but I enjoyed these communities on reddit and was hoping to recreate some of the magic
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !theonionwasright@sh.itjust.works
I hope these take off, I just subscribed to two of them
It tries to quantify "how timeless" a song is based on its lyrics, by tracking the etymology of words and phrases to their earliest occurence. It then forms a score based on the terms.
Excellent. Didn't know about this one. I've been diving into conservas a lot lately with some diet changes, so this is super.
Lemmit.
Yeah, you can downvote if you want. The point being that Lemmy's niche communities are kind of dead, because it's not really big enough to sustain them yet. Lemmit at least provides a bridge so I can see the ones stranded on Reddit.
what's that
It's an instance that automatically reposts every post made in certain Reddit subs.
I don't like it, and blocked the entire instance because I don't like the whole automatic repost thing, especially when the OP probably won't even see any responses
It doesn't post outside of itself, as far as I'm aware, so that was probably redundant.
Probably, but it covers me in the future if they ever add another bot to it
A special instance that mirrors Reddit subs. Just the posts, unfortunately, because I guess all the comments would be harder to scrape.
!piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
/r/Piracy is just a bunch of memes, and this community actively talks about piracy, it's ethical philosophy and taking control over your media. There are people who pirate everything regardless of circumstances, but for the most part, I'd argue its people who have been burnt by companies whom they trusted.
Because otherwise it would get instantly banned. You don't host piracy communities on social media, it's well known
I disagree that it actually talks about the "ethical philosophy." Basically either you join the echo chamber saying that there are no ethical problems with piracy, or you're downvoted to oblivion. The responses are along the lines of "idc, I want free stuff." That makes the discussion redundant and uninteresting.
Hey there's long fledged out discussions on the nuances of... how very ethical piracy is
Yep. I got wrecked trying to discuss the nuanced differences between piracy and theft.
Decided then and there to just block all discussions/communities on the topic. If they canโt leave the wind-tunnel, they can keep it to themselves.
Some people have to jump through a lot of moral hoops to justify piracy instead of accepting there could be any possible bad points about it
Exactly.
because the flipside is companies wanting to nickel and dime you to oblivion for a subpar piece of media, or even hardware these days.
We're talking about whether the community has a nuanced discussion about the ethics of piracy or not. What you said just now is another attempt at a false dichotomy, so if you're trying to represent the community you're kind of proving my point.
im presenting you with a simple, common but strong argument for it.
you can choose to engage with it with nuance or, apparently, attack me.
you won't agree with every set of ideals out there, that doesn't mean it isnt tought out.
Your argument is not relevant to anything I said. So I don't want to engage with it because it derails the discussion here, which is not about the ethics of piracy but about the community's openness to discussing it.
yes it is. you just dont want to have that discussion.
the community will rightfully shun people parroting the copyrights holders arguments and bad faith arguing, because thats not the place to be if you hate piracy.
They can do whatever they want, it's their community. Just don't tell me there's a nuanced discussion going on there.
well dont tell me there isnt while refusing to engage.
I did engage multiple times in that community, when it was on topic. I eventually learned that there was no point in doing so.
Idk if it's still there, but devs of lemmy mentioned wanting to make a place you could actually talk about piracy. I buy things when I can DRM free, and when I can't I'm really glad this community exists
hey thats me! ๐ค
Gotta be !imageai@sh.itjust.works. The weekly community challenges are really cool and I don't think you could find a better space to experiment with and learn about AI artwork. The userbase is knowledgeable/skilled on the topic and also has good vibes.
Personally I don't see that as a good thing. Reddit had a thriving community of active art sharing subrrddits, Lemmy only has a few barely active art coms and instead floods All with ai-generated images.
A) just block the community
B) Lemmy also has active !traditional_art@lemmy.world communities, it just has less activity in general. We can have an infinite amount of communities on this platform, for both topics. It's not a zero-sum game
Why do you think the existence of the AI image community is hurting the other art communities on Lemmy? I'm subscribed to and enjoy content from both.
It's not a zero sum game, but there are not an infinite number of eyeballs looking nor is there an infinite supply of content at any given time. If the majority of "art" floating to the top is generated, it will change how people view the platform.
Maybe the AI "art" community being the first to thrive will mean actual artists get a bad first impression and avoid Lemmy. Maybe people do block it and it becomes a problem only visible to those who don't already "get it" and just block.
There are many reasons why it could hurt the community. How do you fail to understand that?
I never said there aren't any reasons it could hurt the community. I simply asked what those reasons might be, and you have given me an answer to my question.
My counterpoint would be that it's also possible that the increased activity from the AI art community energizes and grows Lemmy as a whole, and some of those users are also interested in other art.
I think that your beef is with AI art as a concept, not with the Lemmy community in particular. I feel terrible for artists that are losing their livelihood due to AI, but if AI is going to affect my life going forward, I would like to understand how it works and how to deal with it. Observing that Lemmy community has helped to clarify the capabilities and limitations of AI for me personally, along with providing entertainment.
TLDR verifiable pros > hypothetical cons
Automation will steal our jobs!!
/s
I feel that. There's is a lot of ai art here and it's a little off putting. Reddit did have a lot more to share but it comes with the user numbers for sure.
Shameless plug, but I've been really trying to keep up with daily posts at https://lemmy.world/c/crtart if you are looking for a non ai art community.
!crtart@lemmy.world
@crtart@lemmy.world (for kbin)
Thanks for the fix!
I agree, it's one of the things I dislike about the fediverse (I'm on Kbin)
Aw, thank you!
Thatโs so nice to hear :)
You're a good egg. Our server is lucky to have you
Huh didn't expect a community I (used to be) am active on.
!stick@sh.itjust.works is a pretty unique community on the Lemmyverse.
I've found my home
Are you a dog?
I didnโt know that I needed this, thanks!
(abstract) The overall dev community here. This place has a lot of the extremely capable bleeding edgers, the people capable of changing the world for the better with a couple weeks of thought.
where do they mostly lurk ? I want to piggyback on these worldchanging devs
.ml is the oldest Lemmy instance and home of the Lemmy devs. You mostly need to ask compelling questions and read between the lines to get a bigger picture view.
I also edge until i bleed
The Tom Swifty sub has been locked without explanation for a year on reddit. But !tomswifty@midwest.social is thriving!
TIL about Tom Swifty jokes. It's like a pun on steroids. Brilliant!
Was it locked permanently due to the Reddit API changes perhaps? Or was it before that?
I know some subs did lock indefinitely, but Reddit forcibly reopened some I think.
It was a couple months before that, actually. I wouldn't talk shit about a community that shut down in protest.
I'm gonna need someone to explain what that is a little more. I'm super confused.
It's a type of joke where the spoken line relates to the described manner of speaking, usually in a pun, eg.
"Salmon is just the best," Tom said superficially.
The adverb "superficially" sounds like "super fish", which describes Tom's attitude towards salmon.
TIL we have a Tom Swift community
!femcelmemes@lemmy.blahaj.zone I'm sorry.
Dude same! I fucking love those memes
!bushrat_confidential@slrpnk.net
!ich_iel@feddit.de
Technically, it has an equivalent in r/ich_iel. But that's a generic German meme sub, while the fediverse version is dominated by half a dozen users making memes about their private life. It has a weird-as-fuck soap opera love story between a cow and ramen noodles, hero worship of a bright yellow superhero fighting against parking offenders, and genuinely interesting insights into the German public train system.
https://sh.itjust.works/c/theonionwasright
[!Theonionwasright@sh.itjust.works]
I also made one for Aldi fans, surving past 40, and ethical consumerism. I would love for more fun discussions and recommendations posted on these. It's really hard to get people to post.
https://sh.itjust.works/c/aldi https://sh.itjust.works/c/survivingpast40 https://sh.itjust.works/c/ethicalconsumerism
One post? Kinda seems like less of a community and more like you promoting the spaces you have created. Which is fine, but not really what the question was.
Well, I guess I was hoping to foster some community, but keep on gatekeeping, thats cool
Itโs great that you want to create more communities but making one and then only putting up one post isnโt going to get it doneโฆ
Love ya
I'm open to advice my friend. I'm not an experienced mod, but I enjoyed these communities on reddit and was hoping to recreate some of the magic
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !theonionwasright@sh.itjust.works
I hope these take off, I just subscribed to two of them
[!Tinnedseafood@lemmy.world]
Alright since we're self promoting:
!howtimeless@lemmy.ml
It tries to quantify "how timeless" a song is based on its lyrics, by tracking the etymology of words and phrases to their earliest occurence. It then forms a score based on the terms.
Subscribed.
[!allthingsfoodandcooking@sh.itjust.works]
Join us friend
subscribed
Excellent. Didn't know about this one. I've been diving into conservas a lot lately with some diet changes, so this is super.
Lemmit.
Yeah, you can downvote if you want. The point being that Lemmy's niche communities are kind of dead, because it's not really big enough to sustain them yet. Lemmit at least provides a bridge so I can see the ones stranded on Reddit.
what's that
It's an instance that automatically reposts every post made in certain Reddit subs.
I don't like it, and blocked the entire instance because I don't like the whole automatic repost thing, especially when the OP probably won't even see any responses
It doesn't post outside of itself, as far as I'm aware, so that was probably redundant.
Probably, but it covers me in the future if they ever add another bot to it
A special instance that mirrors Reddit subs. Just the posts, unfortunately, because I guess all the comments would be harder to scrape.
/c/eleven@lemmy.ml
Can You fix the link? I'd love to have a look
!eleven@lemmy.ml
!eleven@lemmy.ml