Harris says ‘of course’ her team is prepared if Trump declares victory before votes are counted

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Harris says ‘of course’ her team is prepared if Trump declares victory before votes are counted
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It’s reassuring to hear they know Trump is going to go all in on fuckery at the end, and actually have a plan to stop another insurrection

That's not what I heard.
"We've got two weeks to go, and I'm very much grounded in the present. We will deal with election night and the days after as they come, and we have the resources and the expertise and the focus on that as well"

She's saying they have a bunch of capable people who'll figure it out on the fly.
That's called improvising. Improvising is exactly the opposite of a plan. It's what you do when you have no plan.

It's also called being ready for anything. It's what you do when you aren't entirely sure what the idiot on the other side is going to do.

The world's best swordsman isn't afraid of the second best swordsman. He's afraid of the world's worst swordsman, cause he can never be sure what the idiot will do.

Same principle.

No it's not.
Being ready for anything is having a plan for anything.

When you can't know what your opponent might do, you can't plan. That's exactly why the best swordsman is afraid of the worst. He's forced to go without a plan.

How can anyone be ready for anything if this is the definition.

Being prepared for anything is about having the skills and tools to solve any problem, any time. On the fly.

A good general isn't one who relies on his plan surviving contact with the enemy, it is the one who knows it won't and is able to respond appropriately and timely.

Being ready for anything doesn't mean planing for everything, that's impossible. They've likely planned for the obvious. They also have the resources ready to go to adapt to an unexpected situation.

A swordsman is t ready to block every conceivable blow. They, instead, prepare to react. If it's a known attack, they can fall back on a planned move. If it's abnormal they can react by improvising, using the skills they already have.

Oh, and the swordsman's issue isn't the lack of plan, improvisation is a key skill. The issue of the inability to read the opponent. It throws their instincts out. E.g. an attack looks like a faint, since it would leave the attack open to a lethal counter, even if it connected. An expert would never use that. A beginner might.

Being ready for anything doesn’t mean planing for everything, that’s impossible.

Just as impossible as being ready for everything.

as impossible as being ready for everything

I mean, they probably don't have a contingency prepared for the event of an alien invasion happening at Devil's Tower...

But it would be silly to assume they don't have people keeping an eye on the twits and truthers and whatever other places the MAGAts are congregating to discuss their treasonous plans.

If you look at Harris' history of how she runs her staff, that's just not what she does. She tends to over prepare to the point of exhaustion. This is sometimes portrayed in the press as "Harris is hard on her staff", but then you look at the details and it's more that she expects a lot out of them.

Of course she doesn't go into details in an interview. It would both bore people watching, and there's no reason to give the plan away at this point.

I know I don't see this stuff like most people do. Platitudes and vague substance-less rhetoric does nothing for me... That's not true. It annoys me.

She wouldn't need to go into details. She could have simply said "Yes of course. There are several possibilities we've discussed and have contingencies for. I think we're well prepared for his inevitable shenanigans." That would have been a solid confidence inspiring answer. But instead, she tries to dodge the question, focusing on the present. I assume because she's not aware of any plan and doesn't want to say that. Then hearing herself, realizes it's a bad answer to focus on the now without looking ahead; So she tries to find a way to say something that sounds like being prepared. And finally caps it off talking about how bad Trump is again.

I think so many people are so used to vacuous bullshit from politicians, they've started judging it by different standards than they would use in normal real world conversations. Imagine you asked a coworker a question, and got a response like hers. I'd hope your bullshit alarm would be blaring.

Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face - Mike Tyson (I think that's how he said it)

Biden can just have anyone executed who is out of line. Not sure why everyone is acting so afraid.

As much as I'm against violence, it would be hilarious if Trump's "the president can do anything, even kill his opponents" would be used to get rid of him and his criminal cronies

Hilarious? What do you think would happen if he becomes a martyr?

I think probably MAGA falls apart as no one can galvanize these people like he does. What do you think will happen?

They will rally behind anyone angry enough at the right people. Marjorie Taylor Green, Lauren Boebert, Ron DeSantis, just to name a few.

We will need to fight against fascism after we elect Harris for a long time.

MTG is to much of a nut job, and also a woman so half of MAGA wouldn't follow her. Boebert failed her GED 3 times if I remember correctly and has the woman issue again with MAGA. Desantis is the only viable option there, but after trying to subvert the populous of Florida being able to vote for whether abortion should be legal in the state, I doubt he'd make it anywhere ever again. (Hopefully)

I guess the point is that if a charismatic person steps into the void, the machine already has momentum. Doesn't need to be one of those 3, necessarily. Hell, most people didn't know who JD Vance was before he was picked for VP, and he's slowly gaining support even though he had a rocky start with the charisma of a wet napkin.

Just the cronies then. Clearance, kegStand, the whole poxy lot of them. Ask the remainders to sunset that rule today and go back to normal work.

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She has a Glock.

She's going to lend it to J'Biden?

I hope he’s been practicing for the big moment.

::Takes Glock::

💥 BLAM! 💥 BLAM! 💥 BLAM! …

Biden: “Pardon…”

::puts on shades, lights a cigar, smiles::

Biden: “Me.”

Drives off into the sunset.

Dark Brandon, packing a piece, immunity-and-secret-service… fuck da police!

Rolls his walker, past Miami green, them proud boys homeless from the weather machine,

Yeah… you like that racist? The donkey can kick, ain’t no felons can’t vote so even Florida flip….. what?

What’s that smell (what’s that smell?) What’s that smell? (What’s that smell?)

Little donny, you in there, I smell your perfume, I heard you call for revolution on what’s left of fox news,

Little donny, I’m outside, an old man and the sea, my glock has mods, she stutters, spits a lot more than me,

I’m famous (they let you do it), I’m in office (they let you do it), your joke court is away now, Bret and Clarence showing Amy all of Tommy’s porn now, Let me in, I’ll be quick man, just lend me an ear, damn I know I’m in a red state ain’t no ramp access here.

I hope they put in extra security measures. A lot of foreign nations have stakes here, a lot of mentally ill people are too agitated for their own good and Trump's gonna die before accepting he's lost to a woman.

That last bit seems optimal for the country's recovery and de-MAGAfication.

I think the MAGA balloon would burst one way or another as they can only pump it bigger and bigger, and the difference in this elections is if it bursts somewhere by itself or right in the White house.

She's a former prosecutor. If MAGA pulls shit I'm sure she will pull out the fan.

I hope she has people in her campaign that relentlessly argue internally that they're not prepared enough.

Overconfidence lead to brexit, Trump presidency and the Nazi occupation of Poland.

Expect the best, prepare for the worse. And next time, aim 3 inches to the right.

Well, Russian money led to Brexit too edit: and some of the rest of that list at least

People don't seem to be generally aware that the Nazi/Soviet nonaggression pact included an enormous loan to Germany from the USSR, which temporarily helped to bail out Hitler's collapsing finances. So Russian money literally contributed to all three things on that list.

Another fun fact is that the deal also included a technology transfer of various advanced weapons systems from Germany to the USSR. Almost none of the stuff ended up being used by the Soviets in significant amounts, but one of the things transferred was advanced 37mm anti-aircraft guns that had been earmarked for installation on the battleship Bismarck. Bismarck went off on her first and last sortie with much older anti-aircraft weapons - and was fatally crippled by fucking biplanes.

You obviously haven't fought anyone with a sword. And before you ask, yes I have.

This is the second comment I've seen in this thread about swordplay, and now I'm confused. Where do swords enter into it?

Anyway, everybody's got a plan to fight a monkey until it's actually time to fight a monkey.

I 100% expect both camps will have extremely optimistic sounding rhetoric all the way through election day.

Both will claim victory.

Due to some bizarre procedures in at least one swing state we are unlikely to know an actual winner until Saturday (which is kinda crazy since the election is on Tuesday) and if things are even somewhat close there will be lawsuits and recounts.

This could actually end up being a long wait to know the outcome.

It's one thing to want unchecked power. It's another to want to holocaust millions of people.

Historically speaking, the former always seems to be followed by the latter for some reason.

They've undoubtedly been gaming this out since she declared, but it's still reassuring to have her say so.

So happy she is the candidate. Biden would actively prevent his team from planning for this scenario claiming no need due to tradition and decorum

I'm glad she's the candidate too, but you're just making up a scenario in your head based on no evidence.

Let'm have it!

Also I really hope to win the president choosing lottery! I only need to have chosen exactly what the unelected electoral college chooses! Yey democracy!

Nah, just somebody who was lucky enough to soar with some actual sword masters over the years. I'm no Jill Bearup, but I know which end goes into the other guy.