If "Vote for Educated Leaders" is truly a controversial statement, then we're all fucked.
Your leaders absolutely should be educated, not even necessarily in politics, but Bob next door who's only got two neurons in his head fighting for third place shouldn't be leading any country
The indian PM has a controversial masters degree ( mostly a fake one), so when someone says vote for educated people , he feels its an personal attack on him and his party !
You forgot to name the prestigious degree: "Entire Political Science"
It's depressing that people still believe him on anything, but that's the current state of things
Did you just wake up from hypersleep? We definitely are fucked my guy.
Can I hypersleep until we make our way round to not being fucked?
Make sure to kill Hitler on the next loop.
I'm curious how the timeline would go without Constantine, which would likely also cause Hitler to have never existed.
Go deeper.
Right the greatest wrong of history and make Persia win at Marathon.
I mean if he chose to communicate his preference, that's a problem. But "Vote for educated leaders" shouldn't be exactly controversial. If you're angry, is it because you know the ppl that you voted for are uneducated?
Well that is where societies get to. Being educated or uneducated becomes equivalent to a political stance. There are plenty of examples of educators getting murdered by governments, sometimes en masse.
Pol Pot took it a step further and murdered anyone who wore glasses, because wearing glasses was seen as being educated.
Authoritarians of every type hate the educated, because the educated often hate authoritarianism.
What's more concerning is when a society is populated by people who have take the most facile understanding of a position, and then go about confidently as if they understand it. Like, say, if a news article has a rage porn headline and then people don't read it to understand what actually was going on but make comments on websites as if there was no nuance to the subject whatsoever. ... Very concerning.
He said, "Next time vote for someone who is well-educated so you don’t have to go through this again." I agree with him, and moreover I think teachers should be allowed to express themselves because everything is political. But I can't in good conscience argue that this was a politically-neutral statement. In particular, the words "Next time" are saying very plainly that he doesn't think it went well this time. This is a political argument against the current ruling government.
It’s so incredibly sad how adults need to be reminded and told to vote for people that have a background with real education. I can’t believe people don’t care about education when it comes to voting for someone to be put in your government. I feel sorry for those people who don’t. You know it’s the people who don’t that have lives that revolve around politics and consume it everyday
Religion and education are two things that violate the law of supply and demand. The less of either that you have, the less you want.
Quirk of a polarized political system thanks to FPTP-voting. Sooner or later even the lamest, most basic stuff suddenly turns political and "controversial" while billionaires laugh all the way to the bank. It's by design and what happens when groups of individuals are allowed to hoard obscene wealth and use it to rule the masses.
I mean - I dislike financial inequality as much as the next person, but attributing the failing education system and polarization to “billionaires” will get us nowhere.
The vast majority of politicians, educators, propagandists and just insecure people are not billionaires. Don’t take away their responsibility, they are not mindless babies.
Except that the money flowing to the top 1% are the result of politics. The tax cuts which funnel money out of the public coffers and into billionaires' pockets also require cuts to services, like education. Polarization is what's required to motivate voters to continue to vote against their own interests. They're very much connected.
The question then is why the 1% have such influence. Why is lobbying even legal when politicians are supposed to represent the people. Why are politicians allowed to trade stocks with inside information on policy. Why do we allow money to corrupt democracy.
Other countries have the problems of first past the post (and I’m it’s biggest critic) but I don’t think politics is as polarising like a team sport as in the USA, and monetary incentives like lobbying are illegal in most countries
I agree. In general, lobbying is a much bigger issue than the “billionaires”. Lobbying exists at all levels. You can have a dinner with a local politician for a very affordable fee ($3-5K), and meet the former or the future president (maybe even the current) for $200-300K. Lobbying is everywhere, it’s not limited to billionaires.
Everything is connected if you look deep enough.
People who drive rolling coal cars and hate “the libs” are responsible for their action. Choosing an ideology, watching propaganda, immersing oneself in hate are all actions.
Sure, billionaires are having an outsized impact on the world. That’s power. In general - power does corrupt.
We, the people, have to take responsibility for our actions, not expect billionaires to stop growing and exercising their influence.
It’s easy to blame “the billionaires” for making someone a shitty person.
Except the billionaires are the ones lobbying for cuts to education, buying up all the housing, lobbying against increasing minimum wage keeping people desperate, buying up all the media and turning it into propaganda, are responsible for dumping chemicals that impact growth and development in our water system, etc. Etc. Every failing in our society has billionaires behind it. Yes people are responsible for their actions, but just like you would blame Kim Jong Un for the beliefs of one of his brainwashed citizens rather than blame them, you should also be blaming billionaires and oil execs for people 'rolling coal to piss off the libs'. They've been just as thoroughly brainwashed and propagandised, and just as intentionally.
No, I wouldn’t solely blame Kim Jong Un if a soldier from NK kills a member of my family. The ultimate goal of a totalitarian regime is to convince people that they are powerless, that they need a leader to guide them. This takes away all agency and responsibility (where it matters).
Don’t fall into the same trap. Everyone is an individual, everyone can and should learn. Everyone is ultimately responsible for their life (excluding situations where people are physically constrained by an abuser).
Blaming the “billionaires” is a fruitless endeavor. Do you think if we get rid of billionaires we will automatically live in a just society? There will always be people with more power, billionaires or not.
Worldwide, I am in the 1%. You are most likely too. For a lower class family in Pakistan you are a billionaire.
The highest data point referenced in the article you link to is Monaco with $12.4M. Not sure where you are getting the $30M number.
Anyway, as I said, globally you and I most likely are in the 1%. Not in the US, a very wealthy country.
Edit: here is an interesting data point for you: Kenya is listed last on that graph with just $20K. Do you know how wealthy Kenya is overall? It’s at the 59th place globally. Out of 173 countries.
So yes, you and the majority of people posturing in these comments are the 1% globally. Enjoy this realization, fellow onepercenter.
If "vote for someone educated" has you acting like this, you're a buffoon.
Brother, he's not saying he's going to avoid that teacher, he's saying he's going to avoid the place that fired him for saying "Vote for educted leaders". Don't be a buffoon.
There's absolutely a trend/coordinated effort among the global right wing to basically turn every country into Russia, strong dictator, highly nationalistic, one religion forced on everybody, and much much more. It's happening in America, Europe, Canada, and all of their media and influencers are working together to push the same "values" on everyone, homophobic, transphobic, misogynistic, racist, and anti-intellectual, anything "woke".
It's time for us to unite globally against the Right wing and their allies, that's the real world war we're going to have to go through in order to stop them from holding us back and to fix this world's problems.
It’s time for us to unite globally against the Right wing and their allies
Democrats 🤝I.N.D.I.A alliance
Democrats and Progressives are just America's portion, here's a big list of the other folks we should be allied with:
However use caution, far too many of these also act as or are funded as controlled opposition, similar to how the American Green Party is generally funded by the Republicans and Russia.
Edit: removed the colloquialism that seemed to be confusing people.
old list
is latest version available.
I don't think they meant that the list was outdated. "Big old" is an American English (mostly Southern IIRC) term, which means pretty big.
You got it, apologies for using a confusing colloquialism.
Shame on him what if I want stupid dumb idiot leaders?
Then you're in luck!
Always has been
You are in your element
It feels like we've been devolving as a species for the last 20 years or so, I'm pretty tired of living in interesting times.
Last 20 years are very boring time. This is how stagnation works.
Stop voting for fascists just because they blame all your problems on marginalized people, already.
That's a real shame but it says a lot about the motivations of politicians and the fear they have of education. If I ran my own school, I'd be reaching out to him to hire him.
I'd love to see those who disagree with his statement answer the question "when is a good time to not vote for educated leaders?" that applies more than 0.01% of the time.
Even religious people shouldn't disagree with it. If you want someone with religious background in then you want them to be educated in matters to do with that religion. That they themselves don't consider that education is telling.
It’s really telling when politicians feel attacked by such a statement.
Teacher fired for promoting education. Got it.
He's clearly pushing the anti republican agenda... SMH
I guess what Lemmy has in common with Reddit is that nobody reads the article. This happened in India.
half of lemmy users are reddit migrants
Yeah, I could certainly picture some right wing nut complaining it's an attack on their conservative/Christian values
This happened in India. Right wing nut, sure, but probably not Christian.
That's why I used a slash, but yeah, I unfortunately assumed USA
Yea, I agree with his statement but it was implied who he was talking about and when you add his social media posts showing a bias to a specific political party it was a no brainer and why would ask your students in a class to not vote for a particular political party.
While I agree that leaders should be educated. It's not a teachers place to tell any student what or who to vote for.
Summarize what's wrong with the US in one sentence:
Unacademy Teacher Fired for telling students to 'Vote for Educated Leaders' Remark during lecture
Read the article and tell me what’s wrong with your post in one sentence.
It's a colony again?
Bruh, this literally didn't even happen in the US; it happened in India.
Even if you didn't read the article, it's in the article URL LMAO:
Well, it sounds like something that would happen in US.
If "Vote for Educated Leaders" is truly a controversial statement, then we're all fucked.
Your leaders absolutely should be educated, not even necessarily in politics, but Bob next door who's only got two neurons in his head fighting for third place shouldn't be leading any country
The indian PM has a controversial masters degree ( mostly a fake one), so when someone says vote for educated people , he feels its an personal attack on him and his party !
You forgot to name the prestigious degree: "Entire Political Science"
It's depressing that people still believe him on anything, but that's the current state of things
Did you just wake up from hypersleep? We definitely are fucked my guy.
Can I hypersleep until we make our way round to not being fucked?
Make sure to kill Hitler on the next loop.
I'm curious how the timeline would go without Constantine, which would likely also cause Hitler to have never existed.
Go deeper.
Right the greatest wrong of history and make Persia win at Marathon.
You want to use water? Like from the toilet?
I mean if he chose to communicate his preference, that's a problem. But "Vote for educated leaders" shouldn't be exactly controversial. If you're angry, is it because you know the ppl that you voted for are uneducated?
Well that is where societies get to. Being educated or uneducated becomes equivalent to a political stance. There are plenty of examples of educators getting murdered by governments, sometimes en masse.
Pol Pot took it a step further and murdered anyone who wore glasses, because wearing glasses was seen as being educated.
Authoritarians of every type hate the educated, because the educated often hate authoritarianism.
What's more concerning is when a society is populated by people who have take the most facile understanding of a position, and then go about confidently as if they understand it. Like, say, if a news article has a rage porn headline and then people don't read it to understand what actually was going on but make comments on websites as if there was no nuance to the subject whatsoever. ... Very concerning.
He said, "Next time vote for someone who is well-educated so you don’t have to go through this again." I agree with him, and moreover I think teachers should be allowed to express themselves because everything is political. But I can't in good conscience argue that this was a politically-neutral statement. In particular, the words "Next time" are saying very plainly that he doesn't think it went well this time. This is a political argument against the current ruling government.
he made a response on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU09ODTvMqg
He said he meant to be politically neutral.
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It’s never worked for me.
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This thread is fucking chilling in its ironic self righteousness.
If only there were an article we could read that makes this clear...
It’s so incredibly sad how adults need to be reminded and told to vote for people that have a background with real education. I can’t believe people don’t care about education when it comes to voting for someone to be put in your government. I feel sorry for those people who don’t. You know it’s the people who don’t that have lives that revolve around politics and consume it everyday
Religion and education are two things that violate the law of supply and demand. The less of either that you have, the less you want.
Quirk of a polarized political system thanks to FPTP-voting. Sooner or later even the lamest, most basic stuff suddenly turns political and "controversial" while billionaires laugh all the way to the bank. It's by design and what happens when groups of individuals are allowed to hoard obscene wealth and use it to rule the masses.
I mean - I dislike financial inequality as much as the next person, but attributing the failing education system and polarization to “billionaires” will get us nowhere.
The vast majority of politicians, educators, propagandists and just insecure people are not billionaires. Don’t take away their responsibility, they are not mindless babies.
Except that the money flowing to the top 1% are the result of politics. The tax cuts which funnel money out of the public coffers and into billionaires' pockets also require cuts to services, like education. Polarization is what's required to motivate voters to continue to vote against their own interests. They're very much connected.
The question then is why the 1% have such influence. Why is lobbying even legal when politicians are supposed to represent the people. Why are politicians allowed to trade stocks with inside information on policy. Why do we allow money to corrupt democracy.
Other countries have the problems of first past the post (and I’m it’s biggest critic) but I don’t think politics is as polarising like a team sport as in the USA, and monetary incentives like lobbying are illegal in most countries
I agree. In general, lobbying is a much bigger issue than the “billionaires”. Lobbying exists at all levels. You can have a dinner with a local politician for a very affordable fee ($3-5K), and meet the former or the future president (maybe even the current) for $200-300K. Lobbying is everywhere, it’s not limited to billionaires.
Everything is connected if you look deep enough. People who drive rolling coal cars and hate “the libs” are responsible for their action. Choosing an ideology, watching propaganda, immersing oneself in hate are all actions. Sure, billionaires are having an outsized impact on the world. That’s power. In general - power does corrupt. We, the people, have to take responsibility for our actions, not expect billionaires to stop growing and exercising their influence. It’s easy to blame “the billionaires” for making someone a shitty person.
Except the billionaires are the ones lobbying for cuts to education, buying up all the housing, lobbying against increasing minimum wage keeping people desperate, buying up all the media and turning it into propaganda, are responsible for dumping chemicals that impact growth and development in our water system, etc. Etc. Every failing in our society has billionaires behind it. Yes people are responsible for their actions, but just like you would blame Kim Jong Un for the beliefs of one of his brainwashed citizens rather than blame them, you should also be blaming billionaires and oil execs for people 'rolling coal to piss off the libs'. They've been just as thoroughly brainwashed and propagandised, and just as intentionally.
No, I wouldn’t solely blame Kim Jong Un if a soldier from NK kills a member of my family. The ultimate goal of a totalitarian regime is to convince people that they are powerless, that they need a leader to guide them. This takes away all agency and responsibility (where it matters).
Don’t fall into the same trap. Everyone is an individual, everyone can and should learn. Everyone is ultimately responsible for their life (excluding situations where people are physically constrained by an abuser).
Blaming the “billionaires” is a fruitless endeavor. Do you think if we get rid of billionaires we will automatically live in a just society? There will always be people with more power, billionaires or not.
Worldwide, I am in the 1%. You are most likely too. For a lower class family in Pakistan you are a billionaire.
Really? You have 30 million dollars? I sure as hell don't. https://www.knightfrank.com/research/article/2021-03-01-how-much-wealth-gets-you-into-the-global-top-1
The highest data point referenced in the article you link to is Monaco with $12.4M. Not sure where you are getting the $30M number.
Anyway, as I said, globally you and I most likely are in the 1%. Not in the US, a very wealthy country.
Edit: here is an interesting data point for you: Kenya is listed last on that graph with just $20K. Do you know how wealthy Kenya is overall? It’s at the 59th place globally. Out of 173 countries.
So yes, you and the majority of people posturing in these comments are the 1% globally. Enjoy this realization, fellow onepercenter.
Now I know to avoid Unacademy.
If "vote for someone educated" has you acting like this, you're a buffoon.
Brother, he's not saying he's going to avoid that teacher, he's saying he's going to avoid the place that fired him for saying "Vote for educted leaders". Don't be a buffoon.
Another teacher also came out supporting him: https://newsroompost.com/india/babita-mam-calling-for-vote-to-educated-leader-goes-viral-after-karan-sangwan/5272032.html
She might also get fired unfortunately due to the pressure of andh-Bhakts (Blind-nationalists)
How dare you call conservatives buffoons! What if they see your hurtful comment and have someone read it to them?
Miss. He's avoiding it now because they fired the guy
BJP wants to turn india into hindu theocracy.
There's absolutely a trend/coordinated effort among the global right wing to basically turn every country into Russia, strong dictator, highly nationalistic, one religion forced on everybody, and much much more. It's happening in America, Europe, Canada, and all of their media and influencers are working together to push the same "values" on everyone, homophobic, transphobic, misogynistic, racist, and anti-intellectual, anything "woke".
It's time for us to unite globally against the Right wing and their allies, that's the real world war we're going to have to go through in order to stop them from holding us back and to fix this world's problems.
Democrats 🤝I.N.D.I.A alliance
Democrats and Progressives are just America's portion, here's a big list of the other folks we should be allied with:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_left-wing_political_parties
However use caution, far too many of these also act as or are funded as controlled opposition, similar to how the American Green Party is generally funded by the Republicans and Russia.
Edit: removed the colloquialism that seemed to be confusing people.
is latest version available.
I don't think they meant that the list was outdated. "Big old" is an American English (mostly Southern IIRC) term, which means pretty big.
You got it, apologies for using a confusing colloquialism.
Shame on him what if I want stupid dumb idiot leaders?
Then you're in luck!
Always has been
You are in your element
It feels like we've been devolving as a species for the last 20 years or so, I'm pretty tired of living in interesting times.
Last 20 years are very boring time. This is how stagnation works.
Stop voting for fascists just because they blame all your problems on marginalized people, already.
That's a real shame but it says a lot about the motivations of politicians and the fear they have of education. If I ran my own school, I'd be reaching out to him to hire him.
I'd love to see those who disagree with his statement answer the question "when is a good time to not vote for educated leaders?" that applies more than 0.01% of the time.
Even religious people shouldn't disagree with it. If you want someone with religious background in then you want them to be educated in matters to do with that religion. That they themselves don't consider that education is telling.
It’s really telling when politicians feel attacked by such a statement.
Teacher fired for promoting education. Got it.
He's clearly pushing the anti republican agenda... SMH
I guess what Lemmy has in common with Reddit is that nobody reads the article. This happened in India.
half of lemmy users are reddit migrants
Yeah, I could certainly picture some right wing nut complaining it's an attack on their conservative/Christian values
This happened in India. Right wing nut, sure, but probably not Christian.
That's why I used a slash, but yeah, I unfortunately assumed USA
Yea, I agree with his statement but it was implied who he was talking about and when you add his social media posts showing a bias to a specific political party it was a no brainer and why would ask your students in a class to not vote for a particular political party.
While I agree that leaders should be educated. It's not a teachers place to tell any student what or who to vote for.
Summarize what's wrong with the US in one sentence:
Read the article and tell me what’s wrong with your post in one sentence.
It's a colony again?
Bruh, this literally didn't even happen in the US; it happened in India.
Even if you didn't read the article, it's in the article URL LMAO:
Well, it sounds like something that would happen in US.