Biden built the strongest safety net in U.S. history. Now it’s collapsing around him.

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Biden built the strongest safety net in U.S. history. Now it's collapsing around him.
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The child poverty rate more than doubled in 2022 as Covid-era aid programs expired, erasing major economic gains for the poorest Americans.

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"Biden officials pushed hard to make that program permanent but couldn’t overcome opposition from centrist Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.), who argued the government’s spending was stoking inflation."

F@#& Joe Manchin!

Centrist my hairy ass. If it walks and talks like an obstructionist republican ballsack...

Joe Manchin gave us the IRA. Don't forget that.

Democrats were blindsided when Senator Manchin (D-WV) publicly stated he would be voting no on the Build Back Better Act, almost certainly ending the possibility it would pass in short order (Source)

Which was just a ruse to get us the IRA. Which is Build Back Better under a different name.

I'd say they're in the same vein and IRA is effective but many policies were watered down. You seem to know something I don't about this bill, I see Manchin as obstructionary. How could you possibly not?

Manchin, Schumer and Biden played the Republicans for fools. They couldn't get Build Back Better past the filibuster-proof 60 votes, so they split it into two - the CHIPS act and the IRA. Republicans agreed to pass the CHIPS act because the IRA seemed absolutely dead in the water due to Manchin. Then once the CHIPS act passed, Manchin was like "haha gottem" and voted for the IRA, which passed under reconciliation rules that are not subject to filibuster.

Republicans thought that Manchin was on their side and he manipulated the hell out of it. It was honestly brilliant.

I'm not saying Manchin is some paragon of social justice. I'm saying he really really helped the nation and there's a decent chance he might do it again. I'm also saying he is by far and away the best senator we will get out of west Virginia.

Oh wow! I didn't know all of that. What a wicked bit of drama 😍 Thank you.

Next time you see some loser with FJB written somewhere, cross out the B and put an M

Too bad an Executive Act could've made that negligible, but I'm glad that Biden and the democrats insist on playing by the rules when their opponents are bragging about cheating

The important thing is that we found a way to blame Joe Biden for everything.

I mean after a certain point, isn't inaction just complicity?

And what actions have the ones critical of Biden done for the American people other than just criticism?

what about

Not relevant. All I said is that Biden isn't doing enough

That’s not what you said though. You literally said Joe Biden was complicit. Which requires intent.

If you watch a child getting beat up by an adult and you choose not to intervene even though you have every right to do so, does that inaction not show complicity with the situation?

Joe Biden has every legal right to do more, and every day makes an active decision not to. That shows complicity through inaction.

If you attempt to intervene and a police officer subdues you and puts you in handcuffs and sits you down, are you complicit?

Biden is not a dictator. He cannot unilaterally wave his magic wand and turn the US into a socialist paradise. That's not how government works.

Completely irrelevant. Answer my question without making weird extrapolation "what about"s.

Biden is not a dictator

Trump set so many legal precedents for what a EO could do. Biden has the full right to do more, but chooses not to. That's my entire argument.

See my comment above about Democrats insisting on playing by the rules when the other team is openly bragging about cheating. You Biden dick riders who don't demand more from the Democratic Party will be the reason we end up killed by the Repiblicans who aren't afraid to take radical action. You're either a Conservative yourself or just dumb if you can't see how dire things are in America right now.

Biden has the full right to do more

No, he doesn't, and neither did Trump. God willing, Trump will go to jail for the shit he did.

You dumb teenagers who don't know what a primary is will be (already are in many respects) the downfall of America.

This is a great video about that. Really gets to the core of the complete phallacy of the DNC strategy. I'm starting to think they're intentionally ineffective at this point.

https://youtu.be/MAbab8aP4_A?si=SIEcDNKIFIa3CTwa

an executive act can also be reversed by the next republican president

Capitalists will always view the uplift of their captive labor market as a bad thing. Covid era expansion of government aid was always intended to be life support for a monetarily ensnared working class in order to maintain the exploitation on the other side of the pandemic. Why do you think they are so adamant about the "return to work"? It isnt just the corporate property developers suffering directly from unused realty, but the middle managers suffering from irrelevance of not being able to physically wield power over employees. Keeping workers stuck in a cycle of poverty is how late-stage capitalism operates most efficiently for the ruling class.

They are pretty open about that. The wealthy feel that they need to cause pain in the economy globally in order to diminish workers' ability to make demands. They have the means and the motive to make 2008 happen again.

....the middle managers suffering from irrelevance of not being able to physically wield power over employees

Imagine thinking middle management have any more influence than the rest of us working peasants to influence over the ruling the 1%. What an utterly bizarre thing to claim.

Capitalists will always view the uplift of their captive labor market as a bad thing.

I'm a neoliberal capitalist pig and I love uplifting the poor. I literally dedicated my life to it. I fully support just straight up handing the poor money.

You'll also note Joe Biden is a capitalist pig-dog too, and literally fought for this program

Keeping workers stuck in a cycle of poverty is how late-stage capitalism operates most efficiently for the ruling class.

This is the opposite of the truth.

It really is crazy that under the COVID relief bills we saw direct payments to citizens, the child tax credits, and no cost healthcare at point of service for ONE disease. And then poof it was gone.

Especially on that last one, I’m surprised I don’t see it wrapped into the Medicare for All movement more often as an example of a dramatic expansion of the government’s role in healthcare for all Americans, however temporary and limited.

I'm not saying I wish covid was worse, but maybe if it's been like a little worse we could of got single payer healthcare?... I dunno I really thought that was going to make it obvious how much better that'd be.

I know what you are saying. These folks were actively asking for the 2% of Grandma's and immunocompromised to be sacrificed for the greater good. Maybe if they saw their ERs shut down in the suburbs and country line they did in the city, they would take it more seriously

Democrats don't want Medicare for All anymore than Republicans do. So it's not surprising that they dropped benefits as quickly as possible before people got used to them.

BoTh SiDeS

In context of Medicare for All ... yes: BoTh SiDeS.

There are differences between both political parties. But on healthcare issues, both parties are very protective of insurance company interests. To pretend otherwise is incredibly immature.

Believing republican propaganda is incredibly immature.

This is not constructive

bOtH sIdEs is not constructive.

Accurately pointing out what is the same and what is different across Republicans and Democrats is absolutely constructive. Start with the facts, don't just disregard the facts because they conflict with your theory about how noting any equivalency between both parties is GOP propaganda.

That's exactly the same kind of mindless allegiance in practice that GOP devotees are brainwashed with. If you're so sucked up into some theory that you can't acknowledge the faults in your own in-group, your perspective is next to useless. Politics calls for impartial analysis, not herd mentalities and division for its own sake.

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Making it permanent was pushed many times, but was getting rejected.

Yup, many of their pockets are just as lined with big pharma money as republicans

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title sounds like clickbait. it's so weird to use collapsing, when the real story is the covid era programs are expiring (as OP thankfully points out, thanks OP).

The programs in question were incredibly effective at ending child poverty in the US. Their ending will increase child poverty.

Sure, but my point is that the article title is burying the lede by not pointing that out in the title. There's also like 4 articles posted that specific detail already.

It's already a long ass title. How much are they suppose to fit in there?

There's several other posts from other news articles that just get to the point and are less click-baity.

"Child poverty increases sharply after tax credit expiration" (PBS)
"Many Americans facing hardship as benefits created during COVID-19 end" (PBS)
"US Child poverty jumped and income declined in 2022 as COVID benefits expired" (modified slightly from the AP title)

Those all bury the lead.

wtf are you smoking? They all literally get right to the point of the article.

US will always be US...years after we received the meager covid relief funds, a certain group was still complaining about too much free money...

Not collapsing. Being torn right the fuck back down, by conservatives and Republicans who hate Americans and don't care about the well-being and safety of our most vulnerable.

Yet another democrat "we'd love to but..." When will people learn that Manchin switching sides is all part of the play? Lieberman did the same to nerf the ACA. When democrats get a majority, it's always by a small enough margin that you can pay a couple of people off to switch sides. Then with the tiniest of temporary victories, democrats can still claim "this is the greatest mostest bestest amazingest progressivest president in US history" which sounds impressive until you see the reality. It's a baby rattle that distracts the dumbest diehard democrat fans who think democrats actually intend to make progress. Meanwhile the rest just vote democrat because they're not republicans, but we're not stupid enough to think it'll make a difference in this crooked system.

"strongest safety net in American history" yeah can people stop making up outright lies about Biden? He's barely doing anything, I have two cats and they both probably get less sleep

You could have bothered to read even the first paragraph of the article before commenting...

Just two years after orchestrating the largest expansion of the U.S. safety net in a half-century, Biden’s $2 trillion bet that big-government policies could vastly improve life for the poorest Americans is coming to a close.

It's an objective fact. It probably says more about our previous leaders than it does about Biden.

What happens if he does get impeached? Are we having a new election a year a before the next one? Or does VP Harris become president harris?

Nothing happens other than him getting a bump in the polls. No presidential impeachment has ever led to a conviction, even when they were caught in tape doing the thing they were accused of... All an impeachment has ever done its made the party that conducted the impeachment perform worse at the polls because they're seen as "playing politics."

To add to the other comment Biden would need to be impeached by the House and convicted by the Senate (where Dems currently have a majority). If it were somehow successful, Harris would become the new president until what would have been the end of Biden’s term.

Basically impossible right now, but helpful to know what the process looks like.

Dont forget though who becomes the vice president. Whoever Harris chooses. Aka she can make Bernie a stand in VP until the next election. Imagine how much that would piss off the GOP.

Aka she can make Bernie a stand in VP until the next election. Imagine how much that would piss off the GOP.

She wouldn't do that because it would piss off her own party even more.

If Biden is too old, so is Bernie, who is older by two years. I love Bernie, but no. His chance has passed.

No one is electing him as president. He would be acting as a stand in VP for less than a year. It's a joke.

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