When a Torrent disappears from 1337x, how do you find out what happened?

kuso1@lemmy.dbzer0.com to Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ@lemmy.dbzer0.com – 157 points –

Yesterday there was a controversial movie torrent that was getting 1000s of downloads and was on the "popular this week" page, and today it's just gone. I went to the uploader's account page and it's not there either. Just like it never existed.

I'm SUPER curious of the story behind what happened. Did the uploader take it down? 1337? Why?

EDIT: The movie was Lady Ballers 2023 (wasn't sure if I was allowed to say) I did a little more research, and I think the copy the uploader put out was YTS but I don't think they were affiliated with them. Maybe YTS told them to take it down? The movie is on their (YTS/YIFY's) website.

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Welp, out of curiosity, I read up on this movie. It's way dumber than I expected from the title. It's just 'Ladybugs' all over again.

Edit: holy shit does this get worse and worse. It's like a right-wing wet dream. The cast is literally nothing but hate-group aligned right-wing YouTube personalities lol.

They even have Ted Cruz in it (as himself).

This nightmare world we live in would be hilarious if we didn't have to, you know, live in it.

Gross, Shapiro is in it. Just go watch ladybugs, at least it had the kid from Seaquest.

Lol, the more right wingers bitch about this the more I straight up want drag queens to actually do this.

Let's unironically make the strawman world right wingers are mad at so they can seethe.

Daily Wire? Yeah, no thanks.

Tell me at least the main characters learn a heart-warming lesson at the end.

The uploader deleted it so their drones can make social media posts claiming it was censored to generate more buzz and make sure everyone knows it exists.

Yep. Claim victimhood. Fascism 101.

Fascists are boring. It's the same strategy for almost a hundred years. Orwell on Hitler:

It is a pathetic, dog-like face, the face of a man suffering under intolerable wrongs. In a rather more manly way it reproduces the expression of innumerable pictures of Christ crucified, and there is little doubt that that is how Hitler sees himself. The initial, personal cause of his grievance against the universe can only be guessed at; but at any rate the grievance is here. He is the martyr, the victim, Prometheus chained to the rock, the self-sacrificing hero who fights single-handed against impossible odds. If he were killing a mouse he would know how to make it seem like a dragon. One feels, as with Napoleon, that he is fighting against destiny, that he can’t win, and yet that he somehow deserves to. The attraction of such a pose is of course enormous; half the films that one sees turn upon some such theme.

Today's mice are an incredibly marginalised and incredibly small sexual minority. But fascists will pretend they're not, that they're part of the elite trying to cause degeneracy. Not billionaire rapists like Musk or Trump.

Not as if fascists are going to actually fix the big shit, like the economy, the environment, or affordable housing. Not as if they're going to stand up to the countries actually threatening western values, like Russia or China. No. Now they've decided it's some nobody in the arse end of America, who feels happier wearing a dress.

People who fall for that shit are morons. Not that most fascists actually believe their own bullshit. They just do it shock and disconcert people, and because they hate those they perceive weaker than them. Just like their Dear Leader considers them scum, has regularly said he is disgusted by them, because they're so weak that they've chosen to lick his boots.

What you write on argumentative strategy absolutely pertains to the topic and I'd say it also holds true. I just don't really see what it has to do with fascism. Aren't you conflating a couple of things here?
Even when "Fascism traditionally employs that rhetoric" holds true, there's no way that "Someone employing that rhetoric must be a fascist" can ever follow from that. A fascist might be a very special kind of moron, but it's dangerous to then start calling every moron "fascist", because it lessens the impact of that term, devalues it, if that makes sense. It makes undermining actual fascism much harder.

Their leader calls journalists vermin and they go on about the 'Lugenpresse', his followers shoot up synagogues, allied media spread Nazi/far right inspired anti-semitic canards like Cultural Marxism ('Kulturbolshewismus'), they go on about how the '''left wing intellectual elite''' are trying to undermine western values and cause a decline of morals and degeneracy ('Entartung'), they're afraid of difference, they hold the weak in contempt, they abhor nuance so use a limited newspeak vocabulary to limit critical reasoning, they're obsessed with plots, and on social media many of his followers spread the Q-anon conspiracy which is a reworking of the antisemtic blood libel canard.

Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, is a duck.

Here's a Sartre quote that's also increasingly relevant (again):

“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”

Their leader calls journalists vermin and they go on about the ‘Lugenpresse’, his followers shoot up synagogues, allied media spread Nazi/far right inspired anti-semitic canards like Cultural Marxism (‘Kulturbolshewismus’), they go on about how the ‘’‘left wing intellectual elite’‘’ are trying to undermine western values and cause a decline of morals and degeneracy (‘Entartung’), they’re afraid of difference, they hold the weak in contempt, they abhor nuance so use a limited newspeak vocabulary to limit critical reasoning, they’re obsessed with plots, and on social media many of his followers spread the Q-anon conspiracy which is a reworking of the antisemtic blood libel canard.

Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, is a duck.

I presume we're no longer talking about the movie's marketing department...?

Here’s a Sartre quote that’s also increasingly relevant (again):

“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”

What I'm reading here are things in the lines of "Good faith anti-Semitism doesn't exist" or "anti-Semitism is intrinsically confrontational and quarrelsome". I don't quite think that's a tenable position as it would be trivial to disprove. Am I misreading this? What is your take?
Are you sure the line is concerned with anti-Semitism in general and not only with a very specific kind of anti-Semite (e.g. mid-century, mid-Europe, Bierkellerputsch-y types)?

No, deleting torrents is literally fascism, OK sweaty? Do you think Hitler had a positive seed ratio???

Deleting a torrent is one thing. Deleting a torrent and then telling your follower base it was censored by the radical left is a different story.

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Wouldn't surprise me, with pirates generally being pretty permissable and that being the only trick right wingers seem to know.

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Mass reporting or personal politics of the admins probably. IPT on the other hand has it pinned as a Staff Pick lol

I had no idea IPT was so scummy. Guess I’ll be steering clear now.

Bleh, didn't know IPT was run by chuds.

What is IPT?

IPTorrents, private tracker, not well regarded due to management but has lots of content

I would leave my laptop on 24/7 for years to make sure I seeded as much as possible on IPT. Then I wasn't able to login or seed for a couple months and they locked my account. I went into their IRC to get it unlocked, and they said I should have logged in and could pay like $200 to get it unlocked. At the time I didn't even have that much money in my account. I tried to reason with them, about how much I've uploaded and loved the site, and without a second response they just muted me and after a PM trying to talk to the guy they kicked and banned me from the IRC.

FUCK IPTorrents.

Are you using something else? I'm on IPT, never had any issues, but I'm willing to move.

No I got a better job after that and pretty much only pirate popular stuff that shows on 1337x, TPB, or TorrentGalaxy. I used to pirate mostly software but because of the increasing risk of ransomware and FUD rootkit botnets, I'd rather just pay $30 for it. I'll still pirate something and run it in a VM if I /really/ need to and it's $1,000 and I'm going to use it 5 times, but I usually just buy software now.

I'll probably get a seedbox setup and run Plex for media soon, in which case I'll just use open trackers or find some non-IPT private tracker.

Yeah, I don't pirate software, but I'd prefer to stick to private trackers, even though i'm tempted to look at stuff like radarr and sonarr that use public trackers too, just for convenience.

The only difference between public and private trackers is availability and quality. You should have a VPN always enabled (through the closest locale if you like, for speed) or a seedbox which is even better than a VPN. If public trackers have what you want, there's zero reason not to use them.

When I was back on IPT, I found one of the top software uploaders binding a fully undetectable backdoor downloader to his downloads. Never in the installer or anything, always bound to the main software file and could be unbound after install and activation. Always showed 0/50 on virustotal etc. Since I was somewhat into malware analysis at the time, I tried to do some analysis on it but of course it would detect my analysis of it and just not run. Whereas if I ran the software on an old PC, it would do it's thing and I could detect it after the fact, but still not get very far.

I used a lot of software from that guy previously. Who knows what keys to the kingdom he has.

What movie?

Right. Out of morbid curiosity…. I want to know. Knowing that it will be a disappointing answer.

A controversial movie…

The hell? CP, extreme political viewpoint; see now my mind is wondering. “Guess who’s coming to Dinner “? Controversial in its era —

Oh I’ll bet it’s the Mormon Temple ceremony. lol

EDIT: The movie was Lady Ballers 2023

Ah so it's like a less funny version of "The Ringer"

but instead of cheating at the special Olympics by pretending to be retarded, they cheat in women's sports by pretending to be trans.

Meh, Southpark already did it.

Futurama did it too. Though I remember it being actually funny, without all the associated culture war baggage.

More of a commentary on Bender's poor impulse control and minimal ethics than on society I would say

Yeah, they were definitely ahead of their time when it came to social issues

Why don't you name the movie?

Edit: OP did

I'm guessing it's Lady Ballers since someone else mentioned it was pinned on IPT and I looked up all the movies to see if any were controversial. Here is a quote from newsweek about Lady Ballers:

The film has been slammed as transphobic by LGBTQ+ people and their allies, but many people took to movie-rating website Rotten Tomatoes to give Lady Ballers five stars. Its release comes amid an ongoing cultural war about transgender rights, especially around competing in sports with cisgender women.

it was pinned on IPT

No surprise the piece of shit tracker acts like pieces of shit.

I think triggered snowflake fascists are the only people who still use those rating sites. Then, they the user ratings (which they rigged) don't match the staff ratings.

It was probably the content moderators if it was a controversial movie like you said. There's not really a way to find out what happened unless you contact the admins.

Forget about the history. What "controversial movie" are we talking about?

I feel a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.