This is just ragebait, without knowing what they posted it's useless information.
Knowing Meta could be anything
If they're using the same algorithm for Facebook and Threads, then yes. The Hungarian far-right managed to teach ots Hungarian algorithm to censor speech critical of them many times, then it had to be quietly reset.
I got caught trying to think of how the Hungarian algorithm from the maths world was being used by the far right.
I can picture them pouring over a diagram shouting 'not enough lines!'
Meta has a history of not moderating content actually...
Depends on the language used. English is barely moderated, many others issue bans left and right for no reason.
Don't they use a lot of AI moderation? Guess it sucks for all languages differently lol
Probably. And its training outside of English is piss poor.
That's what the article is baiting... People are desperate to be mad at Meta for this so it's easy clicks.
don't care meta is shit and so is censorship on day 1
You don't think they should remove illegal content if it was posted day 1?
We don't know what the content was so getting angry about it is silly.
I agree. This random fear mongering is getting quite childish.
Peak example of outrage culture
dont care meta is shit
I love the smell of freedom in Lemmy. My instance admin is an anarchist. We have a piracy community. Such perfect harmony. š
I should have set up on your instance..
You still can. The beauty of the fediverse!
Aye, feels good to be on the right ship here! Better than reddit ever was.
youre on lemmy.world right? If not, umm....where do I sign up to swab the decks
lemmy.dbzer0.com - Currently application only due to the spam-bot threat. You should get approved within a few hours.
Ok, I need to check how to doit using Jerboa because I'm really stuck here.
I love that my instance got called āLiberal troll instanceā by Lemmygrad
Your admin has actually defederated from quite a few instances. Uncensored it is not.
Most of those instances are filled with bots. I mean the thing about lemmy is that the block list is transparent. You can visit them yourself to see if the defederation is justified. You can't just allow all content unfiltered. You'd end up with fascism, tankies, spam, underaged porn, malware, etc. Freedom does not mean no rules, without rules would mean others can violate your freedom to explore lemmy without being constantly harassed. I have the freedom to use multiple instances if I do not agree with the decisions of the admins, which so far, I haven't had a problem with, nor do I expect there will be in the future. Lemmy is built so that if one instance's admins goes rogue, the userbase could always migrate.
That's totally fair it just doesn't really fall under anarchism.
Do you think anarchist societies dont have rules? Anarchism just means they reject the existence of a state, but they can still have rules that are enforced by the society as a whole. Anarchism =/= Chaos.
Besides, no matter how Anarchist you want to be, the reality is that governments still exist, and ad long as they continue to exist, you must obey it's laws. You can't allow stuff like terrorism and malware to be on your platform, you'll get shut down. Do you think we don't want to share direct link to pirated content? We can't because that would get us a lot of trouble with some government.
What does that have to do with anarchism? User created and moderated spaces are perfectly compatible with anarchism, imo.
But Fox News, OAN, CNN, and MSNBC told me anarchy was no rules! I bet youāre just one of those Antifa communist false flag crisis actors paid for by China, George Soros, and Hunter Bidenās leftover crack money /s
Lemmy was born on the 4th of July for many users who created their accounts as part of this big Reddit migration. For freedom on freedom day for many people.
Only Americans though
Non-indigenous Americans that is
sorry dog but nah
Sounds like these threads are becoming... unravelled...
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Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
Soon theyāll need to call it strands
Someone call Norman Reedus and his funky fetus for this one
Ok OP, be honest, what degeneracy did you post?
People holding hands!
Gross
GASP!D8
Could we really be stupid enough to ever let Meta or Facebook back in our lives. We literally just left one hugely greedy CEO and now people are really thinking another one, who has already proved himself an asshole, is going to be different?
Yeah I just really can't fathom the Meta apologists right now. If that's the only way to bring a massive number of people to the fediverse I think I'd prefer we stay small.
Just like Reddit when it started! Build it and they will come! I don't need instant gratification...I need a rock solid community built on freedom from shareholder bootlicking.
I don't really understand it. People left Facebook because the way they shifted the platform became less relevant to the younger audiences on it. And then it effectively died.
Now Meta (literally Facebook rebranded because of how much they fucked up) is creating threads and people just forgot what Facebook did?
Are people even thinking in the long term what's going to happen, like what's happened to reddit, Twitter and Facebook? Does nobody take a step back and take a minute to figure out what's inevitably going to happen again? It's bonkers to me.
It starts with the user base complaining about a platform going to shit, doing nothing about it in the meantime, and when a "viable" replacement pops up it's another privatized company that wholly plans to do the same exact thing that just happened to the one that's dying.
People's attention spans are 24 hours long.
People left Facebook and joined Twitter because itās a pared down version of Facebook with less fluff. Now Threads is a pared down Twitter with less bullshit and fluff (and is actually usable). The fact that Meta made Threads is only relevant because it gives Threads a legitimacy to the average end user that Mastodon doesnāt. People werenāt leaving Facebook because Meta owned it, so thereās no reason for them to care that Meta runs Threads. If Elon didnāt buy Twitter and turn it into a shitshow, Threads would have been DOA.
That app is completely zucked from the start
Posted on twitter to avoid censorship lol
Twitter censors anyone to the left of Nazi lmao
American entities love censoring opinions they don't like. It's why Lemmy is so great. Parts of the fediverse are likely to exist completely externally to the US corporate """community standards""" which seem primarily to entice other corporate entities to advertise with them.
Forget companies. If you donāt like what youāre reading, simply register as a Republican and join a school board or run for governor. Youāll be able to ban all the books you want with impunity.
Sarcastic quips aside, we literally have no context for what this post is about. Yet youāre already assuming itās because of āwrongthinkā or whatever.
that's people in general. i've seen plenty posts here calling to ban 'bad' opinions or defederate instances that allow them.
Saw a mod on lemmy.ml delete almost every anti communist post on a thread yesterday. Was extremely disappointed.
i've lived through the fall of USSR so i consider modern communists incredibly naive but i wouldn't try denying them their freedom to express themselves.
as opposed to people who run around calling everyone they disagree with nazis just so that nobody would dare argue against them.
Yea I'll go post some anti-tankie shit on another instance and they can't delete it, that's the power of the fediverse.
Something that is important to keep in mind is that Reddit had a mod problem and it wasn't created by spez, it's created by some people not being able to have power without abusing it. We must not assume that, since this is a new platform, that there won't ever be mod problems here.
Personally, I'd like to see infrastructure for evaluating mods publically. Somewhere you can see a list of their actions after the fact so that people can see for themselves if a mod is acting in good faith. And then, based on that, it can be determined if the admins are acting in good faith by which mods they keep and which they remove. It would also make increasing the number of mods less risky because the problematic ones can be noticed and removed quicker.
I've seen people getting censured on Meta products for way less than a "nipple" lol
Ironic.
Arguably the fediverse is as free as it can possibly get without forcing other people to listen to you.
The boundary of the limit of expressing your opinion is directly determined by other people's willingness to listen. No CEO. No company policy. Just you and the community of users who are willing to listen. The standard is set by users.
The more you push it, the more extreme your contact becomes, the smaller the community gets, until it's just you imposing those views on no one but yourself.
That's an incredibly naĆÆve view of human communications. We've seen time and again that making your views more extreme does NOT necessarily lead to you being ostracized and alone. Plenty of communities have become echo-chambers of horrible extremist opinions.
If you have just one friend who thinks the same extreme views as you, you can soldier on. And eventually, you'll find a third. Then more.
doesnt matter meta got em, 10 million signups in 12 hours.
As Iām understanding it Meta tied Threads in with Instagram accounts. If you had an instagram account, a Thread account was automatically created. So I bet a large part of those 10million are zombie accounts.
Yeah I don't believe those numbers and I definitely don't trust m*ta's integrity for honest data.
Literally 1984
Hopefully itās just Russia propaganda being censored.
More likely they green light those...
Eh probably since Facebook is nothing but boomer right wing trash. Only a matter of time.
Twitter is worse but Iām sure the bot farms will migrate.
right wing trash
What the hell does this means?
Exactly what it means. Right wing trash.
"Censorship is good when it's against speech I don't agree with"
Pitted against "Misinformation is a form of free speech"
This is just ragebait, without knowing what they posted it's useless information.
Knowing Meta could be anything
If they're using the same algorithm for Facebook and Threads, then yes. The Hungarian far-right managed to teach ots Hungarian algorithm to censor speech critical of them many times, then it had to be quietly reset.
I got caught trying to think of how the Hungarian algorithm from the maths world was being used by the far right. I can picture them pouring over a diagram shouting 'not enough lines!'
Meta has a history of not moderating content actually...
Depends on the language used. English is barely moderated, many others issue bans left and right for no reason.
Don't they use a lot of AI moderation? Guess it sucks for all languages differently lol
Probably. And its training outside of English is piss poor.
That's what the article is baiting... People are desperate to be mad at Meta for this so it's easy clicks.
don't care meta is shit and so is censorship on day 1
You don't think they should remove illegal content if it was posted day 1?
We don't know what the content was so getting angry about it is silly.
I agree. This random fear mongering is getting quite childish.
Peak example of outrage culture
dont care meta is shit
I love the smell of freedom in Lemmy. My instance admin is an anarchist. We have a piracy community. Such perfect harmony. š
I should have set up on your instance..
You still can. The beauty of the fediverse!
Aye, feels good to be on the right ship here! Better than reddit ever was.
youre on lemmy.world right? If not, umm....where do I sign up to swab the decks
lemmy.dbzer0.com - Currently application only due to the spam-bot threat. You should get approved within a few hours.
Ok, I need to check how to doit using Jerboa because I'm really stuck here.
I love that my instance got called āLiberal troll instanceā by Lemmygrad
Your admin has actually defederated from quite a few instances. Uncensored it is not.
Most of those instances are filled with bots. I mean the thing about lemmy is that the block list is transparent. You can visit them yourself to see if the defederation is justified. You can't just allow all content unfiltered. You'd end up with fascism, tankies, spam, underaged porn, malware, etc. Freedom does not mean no rules, without rules would mean others can violate your freedom to explore lemmy without being constantly harassed. I have the freedom to use multiple instances if I do not agree with the decisions of the admins, which so far, I haven't had a problem with, nor do I expect there will be in the future. Lemmy is built so that if one instance's admins goes rogue, the userbase could always migrate.
That's totally fair it just doesn't really fall under anarchism.
Do you think anarchist societies dont have rules? Anarchism just means they reject the existence of a state, but they can still have rules that are enforced by the society as a whole. Anarchism =/= Chaos.
Besides, no matter how Anarchist you want to be, the reality is that governments still exist, and ad long as they continue to exist, you must obey it's laws. You can't allow stuff like terrorism and malware to be on your platform, you'll get shut down. Do you think we don't want to share direct link to pirated content? We can't because that would get us a lot of trouble with some government.
What does that have to do with anarchism? User created and moderated spaces are perfectly compatible with anarchism, imo.
But Fox News, OAN, CNN, and MSNBC told me anarchy was no rules! I bet youāre just one of those Antifa communist false flag crisis actors paid for by China, George Soros, and Hunter Bidenās leftover crack money /s
Lemmy was born on the 4th of July for many users who created their accounts as part of this big Reddit migration. For freedom on freedom day for many people.
Only Americans though
Non-indigenous Americans that is
sorry dog but nah
Sounds like these threads are becoming... unravelled...
(ā¢_ā¢)
( ā¢_ā¢)>āā -ā
(āā _ā )
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
Soon theyāll need to call it strands
Someone call Norman Reedus and his funky fetus for this one
Ok OP, be honest, what degeneracy did you post?
People holding hands!
Gross
GASP!D8
Could we really be stupid enough to ever let Meta or Facebook back in our lives. We literally just left one hugely greedy CEO and now people are really thinking another one, who has already proved himself an asshole, is going to be different?
Yeah I just really can't fathom the Meta apologists right now. If that's the only way to bring a massive number of people to the fediverse I think I'd prefer we stay small.
Just like Reddit when it started! Build it and they will come! I don't need instant gratification...I need a rock solid community built on freedom from shareholder bootlicking.
I don't really understand it. People left Facebook because the way they shifted the platform became less relevant to the younger audiences on it. And then it effectively died.
Now Meta (literally Facebook rebranded because of how much they fucked up) is creating threads and people just forgot what Facebook did?
Are people even thinking in the long term what's going to happen, like what's happened to reddit, Twitter and Facebook? Does nobody take a step back and take a minute to figure out what's inevitably going to happen again? It's bonkers to me.
It starts with the user base complaining about a platform going to shit, doing nothing about it in the meantime, and when a "viable" replacement pops up it's another privatized company that wholly plans to do the same exact thing that just happened to the one that's dying.
People's attention spans are 24 hours long.
People left Facebook and joined Twitter because itās a pared down version of Facebook with less fluff. Now Threads is a pared down Twitter with less bullshit and fluff (and is actually usable). The fact that Meta made Threads is only relevant because it gives Threads a legitimacy to the average end user that Mastodon doesnāt. People werenāt leaving Facebook because Meta owned it, so thereās no reason for them to care that Meta runs Threads. If Elon didnāt buy Twitter and turn it into a shitshow, Threads would have been DOA.
That app is completely zucked from the start
Posted on twitter to avoid censorship lol
Twitter censors anyone to the left of Nazi lmao
American entities love censoring opinions they don't like. It's why Lemmy is so great. Parts of the fediverse are likely to exist completely externally to the US corporate """community standards""" which seem primarily to entice other corporate entities to advertise with them.
Forget companies. If you donāt like what youāre reading, simply register as a Republican and join a school board or run for governor. Youāll be able to ban all the books you want with impunity.
Sarcastic quips aside, we literally have no context for what this post is about. Yet youāre already assuming itās because of āwrongthinkā or whatever.
that's people in general. i've seen plenty posts here calling to ban 'bad' opinions or defederate instances that allow them.
Saw a mod on lemmy.ml delete almost every anti communist post on a thread yesterday. Was extremely disappointed.
i've lived through the fall of USSR so i consider modern communists incredibly naive but i wouldn't try denying them their freedom to express themselves.
as opposed to people who run around calling everyone they disagree with nazis just so that nobody would dare argue against them.
Yea I'll go post some anti-tankie shit on another instance and they can't delete it, that's the power of the fediverse.
Something that is important to keep in mind is that Reddit had a mod problem and it wasn't created by spez, it's created by some people not being able to have power without abusing it. We must not assume that, since this is a new platform, that there won't ever be mod problems here.
Personally, I'd like to see infrastructure for evaluating mods publically. Somewhere you can see a list of their actions after the fact so that people can see for themselves if a mod is acting in good faith. And then, based on that, it can be determined if the admins are acting in good faith by which mods they keep and which they remove. It would also make increasing the number of mods less risky because the problematic ones can be noticed and removed quicker.
Got zucked.
Was there a nipple to be seen?
I've seen people getting censured on Meta products for way less than a "nipple" lol
Ironic.
Arguably the fediverse is as free as it can possibly get without forcing other people to listen to you.
The boundary of the limit of expressing your opinion is directly determined by other people's willingness to listen. No CEO. No company policy. Just you and the community of users who are willing to listen. The standard is set by users.
The more you push it, the more extreme your contact becomes, the smaller the community gets, until it's just you imposing those views on no one but yourself.
That's an incredibly naĆÆve view of human communications. We've seen time and again that making your views more extreme does NOT necessarily lead to you being ostracized and alone. Plenty of communities have become echo-chambers of horrible extremist opinions.
If you have just one friend who thinks the same extreme views as you, you can soldier on. And eventually, you'll find a third. Then more.
doesnt matter meta got em, 10 million signups in 12 hours.
As Iām understanding it Meta tied Threads in with Instagram accounts. If you had an instagram account, a Thread account was automatically created. So I bet a large part of those 10million are zombie accounts.
Yeah I don't believe those numbers and I definitely don't trust m*ta's integrity for honest data.
Literally 1984
Hopefully itās just Russia propaganda being censored.
More likely they green light those...
Eh probably since Facebook is nothing but boomer right wing trash. Only a matter of time.
Twitter is worse but Iām sure the bot farms will migrate.
What the hell does this means?
Exactly what it means. Right wing trash.
"Censorship is good when it's against speech I don't agree with"
Pitted against "Misinformation is a form of free speech"
Interesting times we live in...
Good heavens!
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