Why? I don't know, maybe someone here will like it.
The fact that it has GPU graph already makes it better than other tools.
KDE Sytem monitor has that function, too. You just have to add it to the history page (Sensors/GPU/Usage)
Task manager is one of the few Windows apps that works really well. Glad to see the design making it's way to Linux.
That and paint are the two things I miss moving from Windows
Paint is especially surprising to miss, but yeah. I tried a few different image editing programs on Linux but they were all either too limited in scope or were too complex to quickly learn.
Try Pinta! It's pretty nice and minimal!
I've just been using libre office draw but if anyone has a better alternative I'd love to hear it.
Yeah I've just been slowly learning GIMP but nothing comes close to paint
Have you tried Krita?
No but it looks like more of a digital painting tool than basic image editing which is all I used paint for anyway
It's far more than basic image editing, but it's also far more akin to Photoshop than GIMP is imo.
What about KolourPaint?
ps, top, and kill along with GIMP aren't good enough?
I do like the pretty charts though so I can see how close my GPU is to melting.
GIMP is great but sometimes you don’t need a woodworking shop, you need a butter knife.
GIMP is way too complicated for what MS Paint gets used for, I'd easily argue it's harder to use than Photoshop.
Paint Dot Net is a happy medium but that's also Windows only IIRC
I think it's cool. The Windows Task Manager is not bad IMO
Well it's not bad in theory, it just runs like ass.. This version already runs 10 times faster than the real thing, sometimes I wonder what the hell is going on over at Microsoft.
Thing is when your system is dying and nothing is responding, you can almost always trust task manager to respond because of its privileges, simplicity and the fact it's built into the OS rather than using APIs, even if explorer.exe crashes.
Given there's no "ctrl-alt-f2: Imma go fix this mess" on Windows, having at least something you can rely on to not die is super valuable even if it is bad.
I'm not saying this tool isn't better for system monitoring (but I would like to see something like KSysGuard), just that Microsoft absolutely shouldn't touch task manager to fix whatever's wrong with it's resource usage monitoring functionality to avoid breaking something else in it
The Windows task manager only refreshes at a certain interval. Holding F5 will make it refresh as fast as it can.
I didn't know that! Although that makes the x-axis label of "60 seconds" not right...
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What's wrong with your pc if Task Manager runs like ass lol.
Task Manager is like... The one thing guaranteed to run on a potato
Have you tried out the Windows 11 22h2 version? THAT one is crappy af. Even switching between menus in the sidepanel can take a few seconds to register, and I‘ve had friends with powerful Nvidia GPUs report about the same issue.
What’s wrong with your pc
Are you on windows 11 yet? The only place where I still use windows is my company notebook. And it's not top notch high end, but it has a ssd, it has a 6 core cpu and it has 16 GB of RAM, yet it still runs like absolute ass.
With virtually NOTHING going on, it takes about 3 - 5 seconds for task manager to open. Clicking on "processes" takes 5 seconds, not just the first time, but every-time I switch to processes (or pretty much any tab for that matter). I too believed that there was probably an issue with my device or something, but I just had to use a replacement notebook that has even newer hardware and it runs exactly the same..
Now is that unusable? No, I'm probably a bit nit-picky. But it does absolutely infuriate me that Microsoft seems to struggle more and more with performance with every new windows version, especially when I also work with Linux systems that just are 10 times smoother with half the hardware specs..
Before windows 11, I would more or less agree with you. Task manager would be reliable even when the machine was struggling. But since I use windows 11, I had task manager crash multiple times.
Guys do you have a memory leak? When it is open, it consumes around 200 MB of RAM. After a while it reaches 800 MB
How long is "a while"? I've had it open for around 30 minutes now and I'm not seeing what you're describing. Around the 15 minute mark I also tried clicking through various tabs, performing some actions, etc. and memory usage is still staying steady at 247MiB.
Eh, what is it doing that requires 200MB+ memory?
That is a very good question. Short answer: I don't know as I am not familiar with the project.
I have had a brief look at the issue tracker and it doesn't seem to be mentioned on there. Perhaps I will raise an issue later when I am at my computer (or if anyone else beats me to it then please feel free).
Oh wow, this is really nice. I was using System Monitoring Center but this is so much nicer. My only complaint is no CPU temperature display but that's not a huge loss.
Windows had 2 pieces of software that didn't have a better alternative in Linux, now I just gotta find something like Notepad++ and I'm good.
Nah, I'm looking for a nice text editor, not a full on IDE. Something I can quickly open to change config files and stuff that has good formatting and can also auto detect the formating. By the time vscode boots up I have gotten bored and done the changes in nano.
I use Kate for this, but I agree there is an even better simplicity and speed with Notepad++.
Kate is great!
Have you tried Bluefish? I started using it recently for editing a web app, and I really like it. It loads quite quickly on my laptop, and it's got a mini file browser on the left hand side that lets you open files directly with a double click. Handy for when you need to edit a few files at a time :)
Maybe something like vim or emacs? Idk if they have tabs for different open files though
Yep, in Vim you can have different tabs (buffers) opened and switch between them
Oh cool! TIL! (Well I knew but I forgot lol)
But yeah I miss how notepad++ saves what you had open before
I have tried both and I absolutely don't understand why people use those. Most IDEs work better in my opinion and for just editing text files nano is better. A lot of people way smarter than me use em but I don't see the appeal.
Idk I just kinda got used to neovim and made a custom color scheme too lol (although I'm still learning), but I might go and try out Geany again, I haven't used it in a while. And I don't use neovim for everything, I use vscodium for editing stuff like html and css
Have you tried Geany? It's been my go-to editor.
For a good task manager, btop is really good.
Editor: helix
What does notepad++ offer that other tools don't?
Nice formating for config files and instant boot up when opening said files.
I always wished someone would port Notepad++ over to Rust and hopefully make it cross-platform.
I am testing Lapce and I can see it as an alternative in the future
Looks good. Anyone knows if there are .deb's somewhere?
TBH, I'm not likely to use flatpak untill I absolutely have to, and with $meta+= exec htop in my .i3/config I'm not exactly the primary audience.
(By the way, that's nothing against the author's decision to go "flatpak first", I fully support whatever choice they make as long as the project is F/LOSS. I don't have the resources to help so I'm happy to wait until the project grows enough until the deb appears..)
What is wrong with flat pack? I heard they were good
(noob question probably)
that is can of worms. not regular worms a mix of different earth worms that only wormologits can tell apart
Haha this is fun project. Youtuber 'Dave's Garage' spend years with annual six figures to create this tool.
Show this to Dave Plumber
I think he would definitely appreciate this
And here I would always immediately replace it with Process Explorer back when I still had to use Windows.
Nice. I was looking for some GUI helper in Linux similar to Device Manager
Got this setup and running on my Steam Deck. Really really cool. Love how clean it looks.
Great design! Was looking a good, easy to use process manager on Linux.
Thank you!
This looks phenomenal-looking. That graph widget should be standardized too.
Looks great 😸
Useful for a quick Overview
I wish there would be something like Crystal Disk Info for Linux or hwinfo 🤔
Aaaw, nice, I was looking for something like this 👍👍👍.
Any Void src templates available?
Nice. I was using System Monitoring Center, but that’s based on Python and it uses a bit too much system resources, in my opinion. It’s pretty, though.
The fact that it has GPU graph already makes it better than other tools.
KDE Sytem monitor has that function, too. You just have to add it to the history page (Sensors/GPU/Usage)
Task manager is one of the few Windows apps that works really well. Glad to see the design making it's way to Linux.
That and paint are the two things I miss moving from Windows
Paint is especially surprising to miss, but yeah. I tried a few different image editing programs on Linux but they were all either too limited in scope or were too complex to quickly learn.
Try Pinta! It's pretty nice and minimal!
I've just been using libre office draw but if anyone has a better alternative I'd love to hear it.
Yeah I've just been slowly learning GIMP but nothing comes close to paint
Have you tried Krita?
No but it looks like more of a digital painting tool than basic image editing which is all I used paint for anyway
It's far more than basic image editing, but it's also far more akin to Photoshop than GIMP is imo.
What about KolourPaint?
ps, top, and kill along with GIMP aren't good enough?
I do like the pretty charts though so I can see how close my GPU is to melting.
GIMP is great but sometimes you don’t need a woodworking shop, you need a butter knife.
GIMP is way too complicated for what MS Paint gets used for, I'd easily argue it's harder to use than Photoshop.
Paint Dot Net is a happy medium but that's also Windows only IIRC
The developer wrote a bit about its history
it better consider how you have to ctrl alt del
You mean Ctrl+Shift+Esc? I don't see a problem with this?
i had no idea you can do that in linux.
I was talking about Windows... Linux DEs typically allow you to customize keybinds.
it works on mine.
Yes, except that in Windows 11 they messed it up completely by making it laggy and adding the functionality to randomly crash itself.
Have you used Windows 10?
It's also on the AUR if you don't want flatpack
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/mission-center-git
Thank you. Although I'm sticking to btop, it's nice to have the option.
THANK YOU
I literally whispered "why?" to myself. Re-Write windows in rust! LMAO
That's already happening: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/new-windows-11-build-ships-with-more-rust-based-kernel-features/
The meme has come full circle.
I think it's cool. The Windows Task Manager is not bad IMO
Well it's not bad in theory, it just runs like ass.. This version already runs 10 times faster than the real thing, sometimes I wonder what the hell is going on over at Microsoft.
Thing is when your system is dying and nothing is responding, you can almost always trust task manager to respond because of its privileges, simplicity and the fact it's built into the OS rather than using APIs, even if explorer.exe crashes.
Given there's no "ctrl-alt-f2: Imma go fix this mess" on Windows, having at least something you can rely on to not die is super valuable even if it is bad.
I'm not saying this tool isn't better for system monitoring (but I would like to see something like KSysGuard), just that Microsoft absolutely shouldn't touch task manager to fix whatever's wrong with it's resource usage monitoring functionality to avoid breaking something else in it
The Windows task manager only refreshes at a certain interval. Holding F5 will make it refresh as fast as it can.
I didn't know that! Although that makes the x-axis label of "60 seconds" not right...
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What's wrong with your pc if Task Manager runs like ass lol.
Task Manager is like... The one thing guaranteed to run on a potato
Have you tried out the Windows 11 22h2 version? THAT one is crappy af. Even switching between menus in the sidepanel can take a few seconds to register, and I‘ve had friends with powerful Nvidia GPUs report about the same issue.
Are you on windows 11 yet? The only place where I still use windows is my company notebook. And it's not top notch high end, but it has a ssd, it has a 6 core cpu and it has 16 GB of RAM, yet it still runs like absolute ass.
With virtually NOTHING going on, it takes about 3 - 5 seconds for task manager to open. Clicking on "processes" takes 5 seconds, not just the first time, but every-time I switch to processes (or pretty much any tab for that matter). I too believed that there was probably an issue with my device or something, but I just had to use a replacement notebook that has even newer hardware and it runs exactly the same..
Now is that unusable? No, I'm probably a bit nit-picky. But it does absolutely infuriate me that Microsoft seems to struggle more and more with performance with every new windows version, especially when I also work with Linux systems that just are 10 times smoother with half the hardware specs..
Before windows 11, I would more or less agree with you. Task manager would be reliable even when the machine was struggling. But since I use windows 11, I had task manager crash multiple times.
Guys do you have a memory leak? When it is open, it consumes around 200 MB of RAM. After a while it reaches 800 MB
How long is "a while"? I've had it open for around 30 minutes now and I'm not seeing what you're describing. Around the 15 minute mark I also tried clicking through various tabs, performing some actions, etc. and memory usage is still staying steady at 247MiB.
Eh, what is it doing that requires 200MB+ memory?
That is a very good question. Short answer: I don't know as I am not familiar with the project.
I have had a brief look at the issue tracker and it doesn't seem to be mentioned on there. Perhaps I will raise an issue later when I am at my computer (or if anyone else beats me to it then please feel free).
Oh wow, this is really nice. I was using System Monitoring Center but this is so much nicer. My only complaint is no CPU temperature display but that's not a huge loss.
Windows had 2 pieces of software that didn't have a better alternative in Linux, now I just gotta find something like Notepad++ and I'm good.
https://notepadqq.com/s/
That looks cool
How about Vscodium?
Nah, I'm looking for a nice text editor, not a full on IDE. Something I can quickly open to change config files and stuff that has good formatting and can also auto detect the formating. By the time vscode boots up I have gotten bored and done the changes in nano.
Micro is a quite nice replacement for Nano: https://micro-editor.github.io/ but Notepadqq looks interesting too.
I use Kate for this, but I agree there is an even better simplicity and speed with Notepad++.
Kate is great!
Have you tried Bluefish? I started using it recently for editing a web app, and I really like it. It loads quite quickly on my laptop, and it's got a mini file browser on the left hand side that lets you open files directly with a double click. Handy for when you need to edit a few files at a time :)
Maybe something like vim or emacs? Idk if they have tabs for different open files though
Yep, in Vim you can have different tabs (buffers) opened and switch between them
Oh cool! TIL! (Well I knew but I forgot lol) But yeah I miss how notepad++ saves what you had open before
I have tried both and I absolutely don't understand why people use those. Most IDEs work better in my opinion and for just editing text files nano is better. A lot of people way smarter than me use em but I don't see the appeal.
Idk I just kinda got used to neovim and made a custom color scheme too lol (although I'm still learning), but I might go and try out Geany again, I haven't used it in a while. And I don't use neovim for everything, I use vscodium for editing stuff like html and css
Have you tried Geany? It's been my go-to editor.
For a good task manager, btop is really good.
Editor: helix
What does notepad++ offer that other tools don't?
Nice formating for config files and instant boot up when opening said files.
I always wished someone would port Notepad++ over to Rust and hopefully make it cross-platform.
I am testing Lapce and I can see it as an alternative in the future
Looks good. Anyone knows if there are .deb's somewhere?
TBH, I'm not likely to use flatpak untill I absolutely have to, and with
$meta+= exec htopin my .i3/config I'm not exactly the primary audience.(By the way, that's nothing against the author's decision to go "flatpak first", I fully support whatever choice they make as long as the project is F/LOSS. I don't have the resources to help so I'm happy to wait until the project grows enough until the deb appears..)
What is wrong with flat pack? I heard they were good
(noob question probably)
that is can of worms. not regular worms a mix of different earth worms that only wormologits can tell apart
"Open source is like sex. It tastes better when it's free" - Linus Thorvald
I'll save this quote for future uses, thank you
Cool, one of the few things I miss from Windows.
I feel like the design of this fits better with the gnome desktop than gnome system monitor
Imagine launching a flatpak when your computer is already overloaded 💀
Are flatpaks really that bad? Why would they even require more resources?
Because they load their own copy of all libraries, 300MB of Gnome and whatnot, just to display you a task manager?
Thats not true
Nothing stopping anyone from building the source and running against native libraries is there?
https://gitlab.com/mission-center-devs/mission-center.git
Haha this is fun project. Youtuber 'Dave's Garage' spend years with annual six figures to create this tool.
Show this to Dave Plumber
I think he would definitely appreciate this
And here I would always immediately replace it with Process Explorer back when I still had to use Windows.
Nice. I was looking for some GUI helper in Linux similar to Device Manager
Got this setup and running on my Steam Deck. Really really cool. Love how clean it looks.
Great design! Was looking a good, easy to use process manager on Linux. Thank you!
This looks phenomenal-looking. That graph widget should be standardized too.
Looks great 😸 Useful for a quick Overview I wish there would be something like Crystal Disk Info for Linux or hwinfo 🤔
Aaaw, nice, I was looking for something like this 👍👍👍.
Any Void src templates available?
Nice. I was using System Monitoring Center, but that’s based on Python and it uses a bit too much system resources, in my opinion. It’s pretty, though.