Longtime Lemmy Users: aside from sheer size, do you feel like the site has changed since the influx of reddit refugees, and if so, how?locked

BarackObama@lemmy.world to Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world – 181 points –

I've not been here long, but I'm curious how users who were present before the reddit drama feel about any potential changes to the content and tone of discussions.

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It used to be much more dominated by the tanky rethoric of the devs, and most discussions were around FLOSS/Privacy. Now it's much more diverse.

Also, lots of porn. I kinda wish it were possible to completely block instances as a user. If I understand it's on the roadmap.

hmm, does kbin not get the porn? how annoying

i'm on kbin and never have seen porn.

You may have the option unselected, therefore blocking all NSFW posts. I do this on both Lemmy and kbin as I don’t want to browse for content and come across porn on my screen

On my main account…

I don't, and still don't see any porn tbh. Is it just lemmynsfw communities?

Yeah, most instances are SFW content only, so the porn is mostly on a few specific instances which may or may not be federated with yours. I’ve come across 3 different instances with communities I need to block for being porn : / even with nsfw hidden on mine I still see the blurred posts and that’s not really much better.. especially having to go into the community to block it..

I’d like to block the whole instances, especially after coming across a post asking where non-consensual stuff can be posted…

But lemmynsfw is federated with kbin.social. Still no NSFW posts

You can easily filter it and block users/communities/sites.

But you can get it if you want.

I actually hasn't see any porn when from the browser... Only when I decided to download an mobile app I got flooded by a lot of NSFW... I wonder why... Maybe the lemmy.world itself doesn't have much porn, but what is "hot" and "active" in other instances it is? That explains why going directly in to https://lemmy.world/ they doesn't show up.

I think NSFW content is fully hidden by default, but then it depends on your app/account config.

I don't want to fully block it because some NSFW is not porn and is worth seeing.

I'm on lemm.ee. I think I've seen 1 nsfw post. Under configuration there's a checkbox to not see nsfw content. I checked my alt account. The same checkbox is on lemmy.world

Do you normally browse all? I just browse subscribed - and this isn't a problem for me. "All" is a measure of what's popular, and porn is popular.

Yeah but right now I want to discover the new communities.

can't see any porn here on lemmy.world

You might have disabled NSFW. But I don't want to fully disable it as there are some NSFW posts that may not be porn which may be worth seeing.

How do you disable it? I have tried on in the settings but doesn’t seem to work. It just blurs it.

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Lemmy.World has gained a lot more fascists. Seemingly not so much the case on the other instances. Maybe because beehaw defederated so they think that’s the place to be to troll lefties and liberals and organize? Uncertain but anecdotally it’s definitely happening.

Mods and admins need to get proactive. We’ve all seen what happens to places when the right invades - everyone else leaves, it descends into a cess pit, even the nazis leave, site dies.

Let’s not turn into voat.

The right has nothing to offer anyone who isn’t a giant bigot, these days. They have no positions beyond, “hurt the people who I say need hurting.”

There is no valuable discussion that can come out of talking to a right winger. At this point they are all Sartre’s antisemite.

In fact, including right wingers only strengthens left and liberal echo chambers because instead of discussing nuanced matters everyone jumps up to dunk on the Nazi.

Kill baby Hitler in his crib. Autoban right wingers before they destroy the fediverse.

"Left wing, right wing. We're all under the same bird" so let's fly together. People. Are. People. The only difference is experience over the course of life. Meet in the middle, agree to disagree, try to have an intellectual and thought provoking discussion with anybody. Deciding to blindly hate half of your country's people is bot a good decision. It's a blanket treatment. If you were treated a certain way by those you despise just for being who you are, I'm sure it isn't fair. Dont be a hypocrite and do it back, assuming anything will be better. You'll just drive the wedge that divides you from them deeper. The world is uncomfortable

If you were treated a certain way by those you despise just for being who you are, I’m sure it isn’t fair. Dont be a hypocrite and do it back

TIL being queer is the same as voluntarily adopting an ideology of hatred.

can't you, like, come to common cause with NAZIS

Jesus fucking Christ with you people.

Miss me with this milquetoast appeasement nonsense. Google Chamberlain.

Do you mean... anyone who isn't a pro russia/China shill? Sorry but the LM/fascists/nazis are all the same. Bad people.

literally didn't mention china or russia but yeah some tankies circlejerking their bad takes on the internet are not equivalent to the nazis who are out there murdering people on the reg.

the fact that you think they're equatable, as well as the fact that you bring them up out of nowhere points to your true ideology, even if you aren't aware of what it is.

been here a month or so.

def seeing more abusive people show up, and nutcases who are spamming their ideological nonsense on every post who have think being first to post about their victim hood as misunderstood holders of THE TRUTH is some sort of relevant commentary and they are being oppressed by some other group of a different ideology.

this thread seems to be exhibit A.

also way more low quality shit posting and memes which i have to spend several minutes blocking each morning.

Perfect example of Reddit refugee. BLOCK BLOCK BAN BLOCK. WHY ARE PEOPLE I DISAGREE WITH IN EXISTANCE 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

Maybe you could just say I don't agree with you instead of blocking things outright

How do you appear in every single thread bitching about liberals? You know your people have safe zones? Why not just go there.

Grab yourself a hot little Truth Social ™ account and you can rant about brown people and LGBTQ people all you want. Nobody will complain.

Come on, it'll be fun. Y'all can compare truck flags.

this person didn't even read my post. they just are making up shit to be angry about because they have some sort of complex.

Mate I'm a communist 😅

This is the kind of user we should ban. The idea that having an honest conversation with a liar is ludicrous.

Going through his post history he does seem to be a communist and not right wing.

They are a troll who lies because there are no consequences for their lies. Their actually position is irrelevant if they will present any trollbait argument they think will further the anarchy in the discussion.

He's just your standard Lemmygrad genius. It's like /r/theDonald, but somehow, almost dumber, which I thought would be difficult.

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While there is some bad, overall it had genuinely changed for the better. There's a lot more diversity in the kind of people here and the kind of content posted. It used to be a lot more dominated by Tankie nonsense.

Got my first explicit scatological DM from someone with no fewer than three actual slurs (n-word included) in their username yesterday, from the lemmy.world instance (yes, my instance), so that was "fun". I've also seen the same sort of posts, from the same sorts of users, elsewhere in comment sections. Fun times.

Gettin' hot in here. Remember Rule 1 people!

People who engage in debate in good faith are welcome. People who abuse and name call are not. Doesn't matter what your political ideology is, BE NICE!

you are assuming that people are capable of good faith.

some simply are not.

That'd be a lack of sympathetic understanding. Kindly educate someone, peacefully correct them, relate to them and ask "how could they be so wrong?" Be genuine. Too often are people berated for a differing opinion over a matter of fact. It's just a lack of awareness in nearly every case. People (usually) don't want to be ignorant on purpose, they just are

More rude people yes. But it was to be expected. On the plus side, more content also created by people who are not rude and immature. Most are not.

The memes are way better and hitting real good these days.

OK, I'm going to lock this post. People obviously didn't get the message from my previous comment.

Yes it's full of liberals now this used to be a leftist safe zone. Soon they will be mods and any dissent will result in permant ban

Edit: libs proved me right so fast check those salty replies bet they even Reported me. Healthy discussion involved some heat love y'all

What? The whole point of Lemmy is to be defederated. A leftist safe zone still exists, they have their own instance.

A leftist safe zone still exists, they have their own instance.

The leftist safe zone is and always was a lie, anyway. They're just fascists LARPing as a communist vanguard.

Vanguard ideology is the weakest point of Leninism. It always attracts those seeking power. But there’s nothing stopping a leftist group from owning a lemmy instance and banning everyone that disagrees with their flavor of leftism.

I wasn’t gonna start a fight here though lol. The entire place was infested with tankies. The dude I responded to is probably a tankie.

I laughed when the complaint was liberals invading Lemmy lmao.

He said long time not "joined 12 days ago"

Eh... Instances are like countries and federations are like Alliances. A leftist safe zone still exist and they federate only with like minded instances.

ALSO would your solution be ONLY leftist mods, would they be any more or less likely to quash dissent and perma ban whatever they don't like?

My experience is that most extremely ideologically driven communities tend to devolve into the same heavy-handed moderation tactics. I think this happens because it’s easier to imagine that the ends justify the means, and because small minority communities that are far from the larger consensus viewpoints are going to have issues with relatively large number of outside users coming in and wanting to debate or denigrate the fringe ideology.

Libs downvoting you but you have a point. All the users in this thread whining about "tankies" have accounts created since June lmao.

Well, yeah?

Why would we want to be here when it was only a bunch of douches role playing as Stalin?

Like I remember visiting when CTH left reddit and Lemmy has certainly come along way in having a functioning user base these past few weeks.

Why would we want to be here when it was only a bunch of douches role playing as Stalin?

So don't come here? You've got plenty of other options. Why come into leftist spaces then complain about how you don't like how leftist it is?

What does "here" refer to? You're on Lemmy.world, your instance has never been a "leftist space" afaik.

Lemmy is software, not a "space". The network is ActivityPub, also not known for being "leftist".

idk tell that to all the users complaining about "too many tankies" on lemmy. I'm not the one who turned this into a conversation about ideology, I'm just responding to it.

Because it's not a "leftist space." It's a federated Web platform with many communities. If any of you identipols want a safe space go setup some password protected forum somewhere.

Because I’m a leftie?

Tankies are not the only leftist’s out there.

Cake day: June 13th, 2023

And?

If you want to minimize opinions of people who joined recently, try not being someone who also joined recently.

I'm not the one coming into leftist spaces and bitching about "tankies," am I? I expressed no disagreement with how things were being run prior to my arrival. That was my entire point, which I'm afraid you've missed entirely.

Sorry, I wasn't aware that lemmy.world was a tankie safe-haven in the two weeks it was around before you joined. My bad.

I never made such a claim; I addressed those who did make it and chose to complain about it. Try reading through this thread to gain an understanding of who I was referring to when I initially said "All the users in this thread whining about “tankies”."

Can you please make an effort to understand the point I'm making if you're going to reply again? This is the second time you've completely failed to comprehend anything I've written.

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