Terrorism: The unlawful use of violence or threats to intimidate or coerce a civilian population or government, with the goal of furthering political, social, or ideological objectives.
But I thought terrorists were only non-white non-Christians? I’m getting a MAGA migraine wrapping my head around your comment. /s
MAGAraine.
That's the lesser form of a MAGA reign.
MAGArine?
Their brain is sure made of MAGAronis
That’s why they need the diapers.
No, I’m sure that’s right. They made a number of prime time tv shows proving it. /s
These people are NOT Christians
From what I know of history, they seem pretty Christian to me.
They want to make sure that the next jury thinks twice about convicting. Truly chilling and completely unsurprising after Trump has been stoking them with lies every day.
This was America's first and closest foray into fascist takeover, the same exact way that other democracies have fallen this last century or longer.
Just because it was really dumb this time, and in the end the guilty party was actually found guilty by the law, we are nowhere close to out of danger on this front.
Trump will be dead in a few short years and we're all going to stop talking about him, this is assured, and in that huge, gaping power vacuum with millions of followers ripe for the plucking, they're going to be coerced by some new figure and led to the exact same ideas about burning the country to the ground just so they have a leader who "hurts the right people." And this new leader of the vulnerable masses might not be so dumb or so wildly delusional and may actually succeed at the same exact plan.
Get more involved in your local politics people, state, county, city and community elections are what prop up fascists in the upper reaches. Know who is actually representing you.
He was not found guilty of an attempted fascist takeover. This is the falsified business records case. It's the most trivial case against him. Going after the jurors who convicted him in this case is going to be chilling on the juries for the cases that matter so much more.
I would, and think it was a good idea both times.
I have basic amenities, I have a home, I have people who love me and would miss me, but what I don't have in life is satisfaction that I've done the right thing and contributed more to society than I took away.
Convicting Trump every single opportunity would give me the greatest joy I could ever achieve. Every rude phone call or thrown brick would fill me with happiness that I've wounded the great dying beast that we have been battling for hundreds of years in this nation.
I could hear some guys in my neighborhood outside yesterday talking about how this won't effect the election. One of them yelled out "Well at least the republicans are the ones with the guns!" Everyone just kinda got quiet and looked at him like he was an idiot.
Remember he's not the only dangerous one. Every vote counts, and all of them are voting red.
My maga friend told me to stock up on food come November. Dude is fucking brainwashed by beanie man Tim Poole
I worked with a guy who was appalled that I was buying go fast parts for my car instead of stocking up on guns and ammo for the upcoming war. He also had his neighborhood mapped out as to who are the democrats so he knows who to go after first. I asked him if he thought democrats don't have guns too and he just stared at me. After a bit he just changed the subject to a racist rant about rap music.
I'm sorry... But this seems like a guy to report
You should report him to the FBI and your work. The statement is enough to probably get him fired and with luck his gun horde will be illegal when the FBI comes knocking
He's gone (thankfully), and a few of the guys I work with did report him. I'm just waiting to see him on the news and all the people saying how they never saw it coming "he was such a nice guy".
So you know who he is, and you expect him to commit an atrocity, but your plan is to just... let it happen?
Buddy...
What do you want me to do? Shoot him first? He's been reported by multiple people.
Including you, or is this the bystander effect?
Bruh it sounds like he already brought it to the police. Lay off
For the longest time I thought this was solely a matter of education; but these days, I'm beginning to think such right-wing extremism is also a matter of mental illness.
Things like poor parenting, brain injuries from football, lead exposure from guns and motorsports, substance abuse, shitty diets, etc. -- all culminate in a banner of people who are... Not of sound mind.
Saying this as a former rural Appalachian Republican from decades ago.
Edit: added "solely" for some clarification.
Its just people miserable with their lot in life and that hate themselves, and wanting to blame someone else for it.
I agree that a lot is mental illness but I think it's more education. They fall for the lies and get in line and do what they're told to do by sources like fox "news". It's scary how it's changed, I had Republican friends that we could all hang out and even discuss politics with no problems. Now, we don't talk at all, there is no discussion. I am the enemy and I don't even care about politics, just be a good human. I don't think you can be a good human and support the Republicans at this time, it's gone off the rails.
You're likely right that education is still the prevailing issue, but I think we need to get more specific on what kind of education people receive in terms of safeguarding against false rhetoric. Drilling in the logical fallacies, teaching ethics, and even teaching common propaganda techniques so you can identify them. We need to step back and ask ourselves how we managed to escape the rabbit hole when others could not.
The echo-chambers have become so ironclad that it's so difficult to pierce through and drag someone out.
That's a good point. I would say having empathy and being a critical thinker would be a good start to escaping the rabbit hole.
This is a great indicator that free will isn't what we think. I've been chatting to maga family about free will through that "how we managed to escape the rabbit hole" lens. There's often a lot of reasons we have different opinions and tracing the distributed causality is pretty fun because you can avoid the propoganda talking points but still make progress. I think it helps them question information or to be more guarded instead of immediately parroting fox news lines.
Right-Wing Authoritarianism is a well-studied, if controversial, and ostensibly hereditary psychosocial predisposition that strongly predicts a number of psychiatric comorbidities often associated with acute cerebral trauma.
They really love to change subjects a lot don’t they
Wow, and what did the police say when you reported the guy with a kill list of his neighborhood?
"We'll look into it" - not holding my breath
There is a reason why I register as independent.
Every fuckin time there is any large political story that doesn't involve Trump being fellated, Tim Pool makes war-provoking tweets.
Which is wild because this is a dude who wouldn't survive five minutes in a conflict.
no one is immune to drone bombs or sniper rifles. The best way to survive a conflict is to not be in it.
Is Tim still pretending to be a "centrist" nowadays?
He says he’s left leaning with liberal tendencies 😂
Just when I think Tim Poole can't get dumber, he proves me wrong and gets dumber.
One of them yelled out “Well at least the republicans are the ones with the guns!”
Having grown up out in the boonies in a deeply conservative area and with deeply conservative parents, this kind of rhetoric is just like their fuckin bird calls to each other, they spout this machismo constantly about everything. If a redneck gets looked at weird for saying this, that's a freak occurrence because these folks number in the millions.
May I remind you that Jan 6 happened. This ain't just macho bs anymore.
Ey now lets not associate Rednecks as a whole with these usually white trash welps. Some of us use their stupidity to note who we can jack a gun from in a worst case scenario.
Def not a repug but i do have a couple guns...for varmints
Its already too late for them. The idea would be to scare future jurors. Its not like hell only face one jury.
Anyone calling for doxxing should be tracked down and arrested like the terrorist they are.
Cannot extra precautions be taken such as the jury connecting via video-conferencing from another room, with only the judge being able to see the screen?
Then they get a judge like Cannon.
The problem is that the system also is of two minds on whether he's above the law. Shit's broken, and not because they can't fix it. If this happened in e.g. Germany, Trump would already be behind bars (long before he'd have run for pres in the first place), and GSG9 would be looking for people terrorizing juries.
For jurors, seeing the defendant and witnesses live in person is part of the process. They assess body language as well as other things. Video link is helpful as a back up in certaain cases, eg for kids or victims of sexual assault who may be uncomfortable being in the room with their alleged attacker.
Isn’t it wild that it’s even considered dangerous to be a juror for an ex president. Yet some of his non violent followers still dont appreciate how damaging he is for democracy.
That is some good Christian behavior
You mean the group that burnt down the Serapeum of Alexandria, and gouged out the eyes of Hypatia with seashells?
Yeah, this really seems a step too far for those guys.
Ronald has a white face though. He also has a charity, too.
He's more of the anthropomorphized annoying orange, but with a following of racist rednecks
isn’t this something else that is illegal? It’s so irresponsible for Trump and GOP to constantly use bullying tactics to silence people. If something happens, Trump and GOP are responsible. These people have become full on terrorists
It'll only get worse if he is elected again
He'll make sure he never leaves and picks his successor. It will literally be game over
I doubt it. There are far too many that will keep up with tradition. I do think he wants to do what you are saying though.
At what point does this sort of thing stop being politics and start being organized crime?
So now I halfway-hope the vigilantes that try to do this will end up facing criminal charges for it
But, I also halfway-expect cops and prosecutors to look the other way if the victims of this kind of crime ends up being the kind of people they'd be disproportionately policing and convicting anyhow
It literally already passed that point. The headline details the elements of a crime.
Gosh, I hope they were instructed not to carry cellphones into the courtroom.
These people are TOTALLY NOT RACIST but think it's ok when a Black Child gets gunned down for no reason but it's NOT ok when a white guys gets found guilty in a court of law by a jury of his peers.
Oh sure they are all for due process up until this.
“Miserable”.
Only takes one extremist in the bunch to do choose to do something violent.
I don't disagree with the sentiment, but all of the people who are trying to hound juries are, in fact, extremists.
Terrorism: The unlawful use of violence or threats to intimidate or coerce a civilian population or government, with the goal of furthering political, social, or ideological objectives.
But I thought terrorists were only non-white non-Christians? I’m getting a MAGA migraine wrapping my head around your comment. /s
MAGAraine.
That's the lesser form of a MAGA reign.
MAGArine?
Their brain is sure made of MAGAronis
That’s why they need the diapers.
No, I’m sure that’s right. They made a number of prime time tv shows proving it. /s
These people are NOT Christians
From what I know of history, they seem pretty Christian to me.
No true scottsmen!
They say they're Christian, they do things in the name of their Christian belief, they act in accordance to a Christian agenda.
Seems like they're at least as Christian as the next one, if not more.
They want to make sure that the next jury thinks twice about convicting. Truly chilling and completely unsurprising after Trump has been stoking them with lies every day.
This was America's first and closest foray into fascist takeover, the same exact way that other democracies have fallen this last century or longer.
Just because it was really dumb this time, and in the end the guilty party was actually found guilty by the law, we are nowhere close to out of danger on this front.
Trump will be dead in a few short years and we're all going to stop talking about him, this is assured, and in that huge, gaping power vacuum with millions of followers ripe for the plucking, they're going to be coerced by some new figure and led to the exact same ideas about burning the country to the ground just so they have a leader who "hurts the right people." And this new leader of the vulnerable masses might not be so dumb or so wildly delusional and may actually succeed at the same exact plan.
Get more involved in your local politics people, state, county, city and community elections are what prop up fascists in the upper reaches. Know who is actually representing you.
He was not found guilty of an attempted fascist takeover. This is the falsified business records case. It's the most trivial case against him. Going after the jurors who convicted him in this case is going to be chilling on the juries for the cases that matter so much more.
I would, and think it was a good idea both times.
I have basic amenities, I have a home, I have people who love me and would miss me, but what I don't have in life is satisfaction that I've done the right thing and contributed more to society than I took away.
Convicting Trump every single opportunity would give me the greatest joy I could ever achieve. Every rude phone call or thrown brick would fill me with happiness that I've wounded the great dying beast that we have been battling for hundreds of years in this nation.
I could hear some guys in my neighborhood outside yesterday talking about how this won't effect the election. One of them yelled out "Well at least the republicans are the ones with the guns!" Everyone just kinda got quiet and looked at him like he was an idiot.
Remember he's not the only dangerous one. Every vote counts, and all of them are voting red.
My maga friend told me to stock up on food come November. Dude is fucking brainwashed by beanie man Tim Poole
I worked with a guy who was appalled that I was buying go fast parts for my car instead of stocking up on guns and ammo for the upcoming war. He also had his neighborhood mapped out as to who are the democrats so he knows who to go after first. I asked him if he thought democrats don't have guns too and he just stared at me. After a bit he just changed the subject to a racist rant about rap music.
I'm sorry... But this seems like a guy to report
You should report him to the FBI and your work. The statement is enough to probably get him fired and with luck his gun horde will be illegal when the FBI comes knocking
He's gone (thankfully), and a few of the guys I work with did report him. I'm just waiting to see him on the news and all the people saying how they never saw it coming "he was such a nice guy".
So you know who he is, and you expect him to commit an atrocity, but your plan is to just... let it happen?
Buddy...
What do you want me to do? Shoot him first? He's been reported by multiple people.
Including you, or is this the bystander effect?
Bruh it sounds like he already brought it to the police. Lay off
For the longest time I thought this was solely a matter of education; but these days, I'm beginning to think such right-wing extremism is also a matter of mental illness.
Things like poor parenting, brain injuries from football, lead exposure from guns and motorsports, substance abuse, shitty diets, etc. -- all culminate in a banner of people who are... Not of sound mind.
Saying this as a former rural Appalachian Republican from decades ago.
Edit: added "solely" for some clarification.
Its just people miserable with their lot in life and that hate themselves, and wanting to blame someone else for it.
I agree that a lot is mental illness but I think it's more education. They fall for the lies and get in line and do what they're told to do by sources like fox "news". It's scary how it's changed, I had Republican friends that we could all hang out and even discuss politics with no problems. Now, we don't talk at all, there is no discussion. I am the enemy and I don't even care about politics, just be a good human. I don't think you can be a good human and support the Republicans at this time, it's gone off the rails.
You're likely right that education is still the prevailing issue, but I think we need to get more specific on what kind of education people receive in terms of safeguarding against false rhetoric. Drilling in the logical fallacies, teaching ethics, and even teaching common propaganda techniques so you can identify them. We need to step back and ask ourselves how we managed to escape the rabbit hole when others could not.
The echo-chambers have become so ironclad that it's so difficult to pierce through and drag someone out.
That's a good point. I would say having empathy and being a critical thinker would be a good start to escaping the rabbit hole.
This is a great indicator that free will isn't what we think. I've been chatting to maga family about free will through that "how we managed to escape the rabbit hole" lens. There's often a lot of reasons we have different opinions and tracing the distributed causality is pretty fun because you can avoid the propoganda talking points but still make progress. I think it helps them question information or to be more guarded instead of immediately parroting fox news lines.
Right-Wing Authoritarianism is a well-studied, if controversial, and ostensibly hereditary psychosocial predisposition that strongly predicts a number of psychiatric comorbidities often associated with acute cerebral trauma.
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_authoritarianism
They really love to change subjects a lot don’t they
Wow, and what did the police say when you reported the guy with a kill list of his neighborhood?
"We'll look into it" - not holding my breath
There is a reason why I register as independent.
Every fuckin time there is any large political story that doesn't involve Trump being fellated, Tim Pool makes war-provoking tweets.
Which is wild because this is a dude who wouldn't survive five minutes in a conflict.
no one is immune to drone bombs or sniper rifles. The best way to survive a conflict is to not be in it.
Is Tim still pretending to be a "centrist" nowadays?
He says he’s left leaning with liberal tendencies 😂
Just when I think Tim Poole can't get dumber, he proves me wrong and gets dumber.
Having grown up out in the boonies in a deeply conservative area and with deeply conservative parents, this kind of rhetoric is just like their fuckin bird calls to each other, they spout this machismo constantly about everything. If a redneck gets looked at weird for saying this, that's a freak occurrence because these folks number in the millions.
May I remind you that Jan 6 happened. This ain't just macho bs anymore.
Ey now lets not associate Rednecks as a whole with these usually white trash welps. Some of us use their stupidity to note who we can jack a gun from in a worst case scenario.
Def not a repug but i do have a couple guns...for varmints
Its already too late for them. The idea would be to scare future jurors. Its not like hell only face one jury.
Anyone calling for doxxing should be tracked down and arrested like the terrorist they are.
Cannot extra precautions be taken such as the jury connecting via video-conferencing from another room, with only the judge being able to see the screen?
Then they get a judge like Cannon.
The problem is that the system also is of two minds on whether he's above the law. Shit's broken, and not because they can't fix it. If this happened in e.g. Germany, Trump would already be behind bars (long before he'd have run for pres in the first place), and GSG9 would be looking for people terrorizing juries.
For jurors, seeing the defendant and witnesses live in person is part of the process. They assess body language as well as other things. Video link is helpful as a back up in certaain cases, eg for kids or victims of sexual assault who may be uncomfortable being in the room with their alleged attacker.
Isn’t it wild that it’s even considered dangerous to be a juror for an ex president. Yet some of his non violent followers still dont appreciate how damaging he is for democracy.
That is some good Christian behavior
You mean the group that burnt down the Serapeum of Alexandria, and gouged out the eyes of Hypatia with seashells?
Yeah, this really seems a step too far for those guys.
Time to throw Ronald McDonald in prison.
FFS, stop letting him get away with everything.
Ronald has a white face though. He also has a charity, too.
He's more of the anthropomorphized annoying orange, but with a following of racist rednecks
isn’t this something else that is illegal? It’s so irresponsible for Trump and GOP to constantly use bullying tactics to silence people. If something happens, Trump and GOP are responsible. These people have become full on terrorists
It'll only get worse if he is elected again
He'll make sure he never leaves and picks his successor. It will literally be game over
I doubt it. There are far too many that will keep up with tradition. I do think he wants to do what you are saying though.
At what point does this sort of thing stop being politics and start being organized crime? So now I halfway-hope the vigilantes that try to do this will end up facing criminal charges for it
But, I also halfway-expect cops and prosecutors to look the other way if the victims of this kind of crime ends up being the kind of people they'd be disproportionately policing and convicting anyhow
It literally already passed that point. The headline details the elements of a crime.
I propose: dox the Trump voters!
Gosh, I hope they were instructed not to carry cellphones into the courtroom.
These people are TOTALLY NOT RACIST but think it's ok when a Black Child gets gunned down for no reason but it's NOT ok when a white guys gets found guilty in a court of law by a jury of his peers.
Oh sure they are all for due process up until this.
“Miserable”.
Only takes one extremist in the bunch to do choose to do something violent.
I don't disagree with the sentiment, but all of the people who are trying to hound juries are, in fact, extremists.
Yup this is about what I expected.
Least schizo Trump supporter behavior