‘Bizarre beliefs’ and ‘creepy friends’: JD Vance could be Trump’s biggest mistake

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‘Bizarre beliefs’ and ‘creepy friends’: JD Vance could be Trump’s biggest mistake
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One thing’s for sure: JD Vance will be shit on and thrown under the bus.

That’s The Turmp Guarantee!

Vance seems like the kind of sleaze that would throw Trump under the bus too. Honestly I think it's gonna come down to who gets the opportunity first. Its like a sith master and apprentice.

I didn't really know anything about him until recently, but from what I've been reading, that's spot on. He doesn't have principles except whatever is expedient in the moment. He's happy to fellate Trump now, but if there's an opportunity to get more power for himself, he's going to take it, regardless of Trump.

Oh man please let it be soon. Let the two rip each other and the party apart trying to throw each other under the bus

We can only hope. I'm more wary of the torch being passed on to him. Trump has a limited shelf life, but Vance is young.

And before the wave of "Trump doesn't share power", I know. I'm not talking about what Trump intends, I'm talking about all of Trumps powerful allies who want continued influence after Trump.

Trump will try to neuter Vance, for sure. But I have my doubts that he can pull it off.

What makes trump “work” - the con - on all these moronic shitheads is something Vance does not and will never possess. They may mutate it into some more overt crypto-fascist money cult, but they’ll never get the batshit dialed in to the sweet spot they have at the moment.

The thing is they only need this level of fanatic obedience from their base to get IN. Once they are, and they're able to warp the government to their vision, everything else will fall into place.

Over/under on how long it takes Vance to flip to the prosecution in some as-yet unknown future case against Trump?

Oh I think he’s already got the fake-tooth-cyanide-capsule implanted. He can never turn, only die.

Mike Pence is a milquetoast HIV enthusiast with the looks and personality of a Q-Tip but it didn't deter the dimwits in 2016.

Conservative Christians / Evangelicals loved Pence. He was a big reason Trump was elected imo. I don't think this new jabroni will help trump like pence did.

That's good news, I hope so. They just seem to turn a blind eye to everything.

The vocal components are loud but don't let them speak for everyone. Pence was a special candidate. He had a legitimate following. Vance might be able to get the GOP vote but he's not getting the Christian vote like Pence was able to represent.

Isn't Donald going to get the Christian vote on his own because most Evangelicals have lost their goddamn minds?

That's what I thought. My Christian parents went from anti-Hillary voters in 2016 to pro-Trump voters in 2020.

I’m not sure Trump needs that kind of supporting appeal this time around. He survived an assassination attempt - to his religious followers, that is divine providence.

I believe the new jabroni was chosen for entirely different reasons. There is a significant MAGA uprising going on in Silicon Valley, and Vance is well connected there. This is an inroad previously impassable for republicans…

Trump picked Pence to shore up the evangelical vote. Vance was chosen to shore up the Nazi vote. Easy peasey.

https://vxtwitter.com/JDVance1/status/1511311385543815180 - Seriously look at this campaign ad.

And don't believe his sob story about his mother, I looked into it... She was an RN who kept raiding the controlled substances cabinet, had nothing to do with "Mexicans forcing drugs on her"

Hahahaha the community notes.

JD Vance’s mother utilized her position as a nurse to steal prescribed medication from her patients, not because of undocumented immigrants.

So? Do YOU hate Mexicans? Don't YOU like to have an easy scapegoat available when your mother raided the pharmacy again?

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Vance doesn't win any demographic that was lagging for Trump. Anyone who likes Vance was already voting Trump. Strategically on that alone, he's a wasted pick. (I'm not complaining, don't worry)

I heard somewhere he has connections to money that Trump needs for the campaign, so that might be what drove it.

It's pretty clear Vance previously hated Trump. And it's surprising Trump picked Vance after those comments, but when neither person has a moral compass to stick to, just like the rest of the party, overlooking those kinds of issues becomes much easier.

If Trump wins Vance is gonna have him killed so he can assume power. Terrible mistake for Trump. Maybe even worse for the every day person.

LOL. In the abstract, it's pretty funny. (In reality it would not be funny at all.) I can imagine right after the election, "So long, sucker."

Do official vice president actions have immunity? Would he automatically gain immunity once he takes office?

Depends who the Supreme Court likes more!

I would assume the non dead one. Idk i might be wrong.

"Well, the one that's alive can still bribe us, so..."

No headline in the form of this one means shit about what will happen in reality. I don't pay these any mind anymore.

He has no charisma whatsoever and struggled to get through his speech while talking like a robot.

No, no, no. You simply misunderstood him.

You were supposed to be in a subservient mental coma by the point you actually listen to him speak. Duh.

I mean, it's not like they could ever find anyone worse than trump. I doubt this will hurt Trump's election seeing as how republicans are already fine electing a conman rapist pedophile scumbag.

The new season of "Swamp Creatures" sure seems to be the swampiest yet.

knowing how these guys like to act tough and force people to kiss the ring I bet this could just have been trump putting vance into a position where he in no way can talk bad about trump after him being "anti-trump"

Okay guys, the pool is open, we are now taking bets on how long it will take before Trump will throw this little shit stain under his bus.

I say in under 6 months

This is the best summary I could come up with:


This is because Trump’s two other reported finalists for the job, North Dakota Governor Doug Burgum and Florida Senator Marco Rubio, each boasted positive qualities that could have shored up the former president’s known weaknesses.

They said: “You come within inches of having your head turned inside-out, and two days later the guy you pick for the job of being alive in the event you are dead is the millennial freshman who has exactly one election and two years in the Senate under his belt?

Democrats and Democratic-aligned groups are salivating over the opening provided by Trump’s tapping the Buckeye State senator as his number-two, citing what they described to The Independent as a smorgasbord of opposition research that will be used to make Vance politically toxic to persuadable swing voters within a matter of weeks.

In a statement, DNC Rapid Response Director Alex Floyd said Vance is joining Trump in “running on an extreme Project 2025 agenda – and the American people deserve to know that they’re planning to rip away their health care, gut Social Security, strip their reproductive freedoms, and shill for big corporations on the backs of working families.”

One person involved in an anti-Trump political committee told The Independent that voters can expect to see significant opposition research deployed against Vance to paint him as “too damn weird.”

“Vance was essentially created in a lab by Peter Thiel,” the person said, referring to the PayPal co-founder and major Republican donor who has funded numerous “new right” political candidates.


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That’s assuming that the Democrats’ opposition research cuts through editorial directives at the billionaire-owned media and “fact checking” on corporate social media. If the Owners are set on Trump, the NYT, CNN, and such will bury any adverse revelations about Vance, instead running non-stories about him having conservative/libertarian views within the Overton window or once having gotten someone’s name wrong or something, and that Mother Jones story about mandatory period tracking or privatising the Weather Service will be shadowbanned as “false” because Zuck says so. A few hundred trekkies on Mastodon will know the truth and chant it to themselves with increasing desperation, seeming to anyone stumbling in from the outside world like the horsepaste/5G-vaccine/ancient-astronaut truthers on boomer Facebook groups.