Gen Z commit to ‘canceling out’ their MAGA parents votes in new TikTok trend

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Just days away from Election Day, many women have on TikTok have hinted that they’re voting for Democratic nominee Kamala Harris, while their parents are voting for Republican nominee Donald Trump. As part of the trend, each video shows social media users with a piece of paper in hand as they leave their houses to go vote.

"POV, [on my way] to cancel out my Trump-loving husband’s vote in a swing state,” she said, along with a blue heart emoji and an American flag emoji.

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Imagine knowing what Gen Z knows about who Trump really is and watching your parents blindly vote for that.

We are absolutely failing our children to the point where they are inheriting the climate disaster, WW3, and might not even be afforded a democracy to allow them to correct our mistakes. This is their time and i hope they see it.

working at a community college, i noticed most young people are disinterested in politics because it's always just been a bunch of crusty old out of touch white men. which, tbh is mostly true. so kids never even bothered

biden dropping out and kamala taking his place was 1000000% the best thing that could have happened, because now these kids are suddenly paying attention and seeing what a fucking wrong choice trump is

I've noticed the same. When Biden was still in, support for him was of the "grim determination" variety. But as soon as he bowed out, it shifted to practically jubilant support for Harris.

So glad to see that shift.

Gen X'er here and an older one at that.

My two idiot older brothers, one of whom is an Oathbreaker... Keeper...what the fuck ever, are voting for that fucking asshole.

A lot of my fellow classmates of my highschool graduating class are also voting for him. I went to the same school, came from the same town had a lot of the same experiences. How the living ever fuck are they so bamboozled?

It's absolute insanity and it is not going to end here.

Gen 'Xer here too. Most, if not all of my social circle are voting for Trump too. I am mirroring you in saying that I also shared the same life experience as them. What I'm noticing with all social media which is a major part of all our lives is that its a giant echo camber for both sides. Here on lemmy and reddit (yes I know, but I still check in there) we are all leaning left and denouncing him. Meanwhile on the Meta and Twitter I see everyone clamoring about him bring their savior and how evil and wretched Harris and the libs are. Both sides are surprised how close this race is. I see the media profiting on all this chaos and nonsense. We need to fight to get the media out of the control of all these oligarchs, be-it US or foreign interference centers. I think and hope that more and more people are realizing this and this is going to be the start of class warfare. Sad thing is they got all us have-nots battling each other instead of them. So hard to talk with the cultists and veer them away from the Kool aid going around. It's sad and it's going to get dark one way or another.

Anyway preach on and don't give up.

To be fair, there is a billionaire who literally recently shared a stage with Trump who has his thumb on the dial of all political conversations on Twitter.

I’m curious: does it break down at all by socioeconomic status? Are you doing okay and your brothers doing shit?

Send MAGA back to the Stone Age where it belongs.

i'd venture a guess that stone age cavemen didn't give a rat's ass where anyone took a shit like MAGAs do

but they did abuse the women. so there's that

but they did abuse the women

More matriarchal societies existed in primitive cultures than you'll likely learn about in grade school.

The misogynist violence is not a consequence of human nature but a legacy of our engineered social system.

Not sure of the current status of her work but books by archaeologist Marija Gimbutas argued that European prehistory was characterized by matriarchy and religious worship of a goddess.

The Once and Future Sex: Going Medieval on Women's Roles in Society, by Eleanor Janega concludes much the same.

But this neolithic carving that was really common is so obviously male

/s

Interesting perspective. Looking at her Wikipedia page it doesn't look like there's much support for her kurgan theory.

Feels a bit like ancient aliens for feminists.

MAGA needs to be pulverized under heel and relegated to elsewhere in the carbon cycle.

Do we have any evidence that they are actually voting and not just filming videos they hope will become popular without really going to vote?

It doesnt matter if they do. It influences other young people to vote Harris.

My 21yo niece asked if I was voting Trump so she could cancel it.

I said DO IT. No idea why she thought I would vote for a asshole but whatever gets her going.

Canceling votes is a good start, but they shouldn't limit it to people they know, and even if all votes are cancelled, you still need more to actually win.

Whatever it takes to motivate them. At least all my boys voted. Of course some of them are too old to be gen z but whatever.

We'll see how it goes.

One of my initial fears regarding the initial hype phase of Kamala taking the candidacy was that the media hype would wear off and that we'd have a lot of no shows at the polls who only posted about it on their socials because it was trending. I don't really trust my generation or the zoomers to get out there and vote, but I hope I'm proven wrong.

If it helps, this Gen Xer (i.e. "me") is offsetting their remaining parent's vote. We were told growing up how decent we should be, yet when we actually took that to heart and did that our parents went off the reservation and lost their minds. There are a LOT of fractured families thanks to Trump & Faux Snuz, and I hope we can make the future worth all the trouble they've caused.

Oh yeah I don't disagree about that. I'm the black sheep of my family in that regard. Even my Gen X siblings are Trumpers sadly.

I was just more so pointing out that I wasn't entirely sure if the younger two generations were actually serious. I know how social media is. Someone posting about something is not the same as someone taking action so I get anxious about whether or not people will actually make good on their statements.

We were told growing up how decent we should be

This rings so true with me. I was raised in the church and I truly believed in what was taught about loving your neighbor, and caring for the less fortunate as my family and church taught.

Then my senior year of high school my dad (a Deacon in the church) told me that he notices that I tend to make friends with broken people instead of friends that can help me out. And that's when the first cracks in religions hold on me started to appear.

Today I'm the only one in the family I grew up in not voting for trump. I'm also the only one who gave up on church. My sister went even deeper by seeking out a fringe Baptist congregation that believes some really fucked up shit, and my brother followed in my dad's footsteps and became a Deacon. Last week my mom explained to me how it's the culture of the inner-cities that makes violence and crime so common. It isn't race, it's culture. She thinks she's being open-minded. And they all think they are good people. 'They'd do anything for you'... as long as you're part of the church - even then, don't ask too often.

I'm ranting now, but damn, how is it so hard for people to just genuinely be good and helpful?

My parents were religious, but didn't go to church. Got in fight with my dad and left with no where to go. Got picked up by some church leader, who broght me to church and ended up hiring me to sell cutco knifes.

Something someone at the church said that still sticks with me today and influences my opinion being that a lot of them really aren't good people. They pretend around their colleagues, but it's all fake. They basically said something along the lines of we saw you hitchhiking and would have given you a ride if only we knew you'd be here. Um, thanks I guess. For letting me know I'm not worthy of your help unless. I'm part of your little cult of lies.

I haven't seen my brother in four years since he came into my house dropping hard Rs everywhere.

I outwardly pretend it doesn't bother me to have cut him out like that, but it really bothers me quite alot. I have young impressionable kids and refuse to encourage that kind of behavior around them.

this is why I think of conservatives like Nazis. I hate them because of the betrayal from family. because of that, i will never trust a conservative again.

yeah i would keel over in a dead faint if my little sis changed her mind last minute from orange to blue.

My favorite was one where a girl was like "On my way to cancel out my Republican sister's vote" and then after it went viral posted another video saying "Jk, we both voted for Kamala. We would never support someone who's trying to take away our rights"

Shit like this makes me hopeful and honestly that worries me. The universe is cruel.

This feels like a trauma response, haha. I'm right there with you.

The cruel thing is that this is the best humanity can manage and we burned all of our get out of jail free cards to get here.

dont really like kids all that much but those younguns are real heroes

Just waiting (carefully, on another continent) for the TikTok videos of Trump supporters, with weapon in hand, who are on their way to 'cancel' the 'stolen' election...

I mean... how fucked up is the political climate in the US?

I see plenty of gen z being influenced by toxic nonsense on outlets like Youtube, as well as doing some of the influencing. I also know people from Gen Y, Gen X, and boomer age range that hate donnie with a burning passion and would vote for a potato over voting for donnie...

So the idea of framing this as just some generational thing seems kinda moot, at least in my experience. But for some reason, the notion that a set of people merely born between two sets of dates are a monolith is all too common...even as we reject similar framing for almost any other demographic measure...

I think it's important to note that although there is definitely a trend of young men being radicalized through the "manosphere," young women are so overwhelmingly progressive/liberal that gen z is still significantly more progressive/liberal overall than previous generations.

I think it's also important to realize that outreach from Democrats to young people has been shit.

I sure hope so, but I have a feeling that some cons are already working the long game on that, too. Like getting Youtube to push more extremist content to women. Or TikTok "influencers" slipping in the magabrained talking points in between the other content...

MSN hijack link

Oh? I've been seeing it more. Is there a way to know and get the right source? I kinda hate MSN.

Highlight the entire headline, and perform a search on it. Even if you can't discern the true source, there ought to be plenty of better sites to link to.

Apparently the browser I use just doesnt work with MSN at all, so thats been the best way to know what's the wrong site at least.

What @SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world said

It does state the source of the article though (this one says The Independent UK), and you can click the 'jump to' icon to go the proper site-- but it won't be at the proper article, just the main page.

But just in general-- If my query returns a lot of MSN hijack links, I just go back and put -MSN in the search.

Edit: screen of page

pointing out where the jump button is with a red circle. It's in the top right corner

"YoUnG pEoPlE dOn'T vOtE" - people who want to continue to ignore the concerns of young people.

As long as they don’t vote you can continue to not cater to them

Gen Z cant vote for someone they want, so they're left voting against someone else instead.

I don't know why you're all celebrating this, it is horrible for democracy and will only lead to further disenfranchising if a generation of new voters arent being represented.

so will they be represented before Trump wins the election or after the concentration camps?

you're not going to change my mind on this, I already voted for Harris. I just want to see that dim little light in your head get really bright before it pops when you fully realize that your "3rd party votes can change the world" lies don't work anymore.

in a perfect democracy, your vote for a 3rd party candidate might make a difference. we are not in a perfect democracy. we are in a broken democracy, where the only option we have is to not become a compete fascist nation.

so will they be represented before Trump wins the election or after the concentration camps?

Does this ever stop? THE GEN Z VOTERS HERE ARE VOTING FOR HARRIS! But nothing, not the truth, not a goddamned thing on this planet will get between a centrist and an opportunity to deliver a sanctimonious lecture about how the slightest disappointment in the system is somehow ushering in Trump again.

And before your lecture reflex kicks in a second time, I already voted for Harris. Not like that will stop you.

The US voting system is horrible for democracy. A two party system is inevitable the way it works. And with only two parties, it's inevitable that many aren't represented.
It doesn't matter who the candidates are, the system is fucked and needed substantial reform decades ago.

The only thing you can do as a voter is not elect the literal fascist maniac and hope for the best.

It's horrible to democracy that someone ks trying to engage with any pieces of it that might be left?

"Just leave it guys, it's not worth it."

Fuck off

Then push for reform like ranked choice. That's how you're going to be able to vote for someone you want without also supporting the one that might end elections altogether. It's a shitty time. And there's 2 paths forward. Only one has the hope of moving towards the future you want.

I actually did the science and I can say with complete certainty that flouride is good for you and has no bad side effects.

Jk, I believe what I'm told.

You must have been dropped as an infant.

That is not only not right; it is not even wrong

I'd argue that it's all true but I just brushed my teeth and am feeling very calm for some reason and can't be bothered

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Implying the reality that your vote counts.

It'll never count if you don't even give it a chance. There have been a good number of examples where winners were determined by just a few hundred votes out of millions. There's no harm in trying to support the future you want, so even if you don't think it'll matter go vote anyway - you never know...

my vote counts more than yours.

assuming you failed to vote.

then again, if you did vote you'd be a hypocrite and a liar.